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Demi Lovato bio is wrong.

On "Demi Lovato's wikiepedia" they forget to write that she also makes ballades and soul muisic, and they forgot to write that she also play the key board and the drums. Plus they could write that she is a very, very skilled musician. They didn't write about her best friend either. They write that her and Selena Gomez was best friends, but Nick Jonas and Demi Lovato was beat friends too. And i think they should change the picture of her in the box, cause she don't look like that more, and she was sick at that time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by KoMoNi (talk • contribs) 01:31, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

Most of that stuff is trivial. As for the picture, we can update it, but it must fall under Wikipedia's fair use guidelines. --– Confession0791 talk 02:10, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

Demi was born in Albuquerque, New Mexico

She wasn't born in Dallas, TX, she was born in Albuquerque, New Mexico! She just raised in Dallas. Please, change it, it's an important thing!. Thanks --Iamlovatic (talk) 06:23, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

 Not done - Could you please provide reliable sources that verify your claim? -- MST☆R (Chat Me!) 06:26, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Yes, this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_AmLxwHxFM --Iamlovatic (talk) 06:30, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

 Done - I'll accept that source per WP:ABOUTSELF. Thank you, -- MST☆R (Chat Me!) 06:47, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Why is Demi Lovato's "music influences", "personal life" and "philanthropy" section gone?

I noticed that Demi Lovato's Wikipedia page is getting smaller and smaller. The reason could be the her "music influences", "personal life" and "philanthropy" section is gone. Why is it not there anymore? Also her "treatment center stint" section is shortened and has been placed in the section "2009–10: Here We Go Again, Camp Rock 2 and personal struggles". Also the section about her relationships with Trace Cyrus and Joe Jonas is gone. Why is her Wikipedia page getting shorter? I think it should be expanded so that when someone researches about her, they can get a whole lot of information about her.

P.S.: (This is a suggestion to be put in her Wikipedia page) There is also a recent interview about her past times (located in the Seventeen Magazine February issue) when she was "self-medicating". This is what she said: "I'm not gonna lie. I was self-medicating. I was doing things like drinking and using [drugs], like a lot of teens do to numb their pain,". And that now after her treatment, she is now "healthy" saying that “I don’t drink, I don’t do drugs, I don’t throw up after my meals, I don’t starve myself. There’s nothing that I do that I feel ashamed of.” I think you can find out more at the Seventeen Magazine website.125.237.122.233 (talk) 01:45, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

PLEASE REPLY WIKIPEDIA!!!

 Not done - It's not really up to us to find these sources if you are suggesting it, I'm sure you are able to find the appropriate sources. Are there reliable sources on the internet? Thank you, -- MST☆R (Chat Me!) 02:03, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

OK...here are some very reliable sources:

Hello? Any reply? Anyway, here is another very reliable source:

Main article: List of awards and nominations received by Demi Lovato

Hi Wikipedia! Can you please create a page that says: "Main article: List of awards and nominations received by Demi Lovato" because she has so many awards and nominations and it is too long for her Wikipedia page.

PLEASE REPLY WIKIPEDIA!!! 125.237.122.233 (talk) 01:45, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

 Not done - A page can't and won't be created without reliable sources. Also, could you please stop using capital letters all the time? appreciated. Thank you, -- MST☆R (Chat Me!) 02:00, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Oh sorry about that...I thought you will never reply so I put it in capital letters...maybe I was being impatient. Can I ask: How do you provide "reliable sources" when you want to create an "awards and nominations" page/article? 125.237.122.233 (talk) 08:01, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Hello? Any reply? Anyway, I am going to give you some reliable sources but it will take a long time so I will come back soon. 125.237.123.182 (talk) 01:24, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

Should Demi Lovato be put under the category American sopranos?

Wikipedia,Can you also put a "Voice" Section on Demi Lovato's Page.. Demi must Have One,Because she has a wide range too.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.190.19.233 (talk) 20:24, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

Do you think we should put Demi under the category American sopranos? She's got quite a high range. --Geekboy6 (talk) 07:48, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

She's got a High,high Range... Put Her in the list of sopranos in non-classical Music!!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.190.19.233 (talk) 20:22, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

I agree. She does have a high vocal range. Her vocal range is just the same as Kelly Clarkson. At first, she used to be a mezzo-soprano because her voice hasn't matured yet. But now when her voice matured, she can now be categorized as possessing the vocal range of a soprano. Streamerlovesmusic (talk) 02:43, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

I did some research, trying to find people's opinion about her vocal range. Some said she has a "mezzo-soprano" vocal range, some say she has an "alto" range, some say she has a "lyrical soprano" vocal range. We should decide first what Demi's REAL vocal range should be. THEN we can put it to what Demi's real vocal range is. We should also create a "vocal ability" section in Demi's article. (That was just a suggestion.) 203.97.167.3 (talk) 09:46, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

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Edit request on 3 May 2012

please update Demi Lovato as a X-factoe judge alongside Britney Spears http://www.cambio.com/2012/05/03/confirmed-britney-spears-and-demi-lovato-to-be-x-factor/

Mudz B (talk) 17:48, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Until that "pesky matter" of signatures is complete, no.—Kww(talk) 17:59, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
Wait. That's still going on? Why in the world would they take off Lovato's signature? There were a lot of things removed from Lovato's article and I worked so hard getting them back and now the signature? Lovato's signature should still remain there. Also for The X Factor, it wasn't confirmed yet. It was reported, but for it to be put in Lovato's article, it has to be confirmed. I'm sorry, I was the one who put that she was a judge in The X Factor. If it was confirmed, I (or other people) will be updating it. Are you alright with it? Streamerlovesmusic (talk) 11:09, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
The source used the phrase that there was "just the pesky matter of signatures" to be dealt with when they were saying that the contract was not yet signed. I didn't touch anything related to signatures in the article.—Kww(talk) 11:52, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
It's already confirmed. 203.97.167.3 (talk) 03:28, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

her awards

why cant you guys put her awards in a new section like lists of awards and nominations recieved by demi lovato she has many awards as well thankx — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.31.80.134 (talk) 09:09, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Streamerlovesmusic already put her awards and nominations in a new section. 203.97.167.3 (talk) 03:24, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Voice Section

Can you Please make a "VOICE" Section on Demi's wiki.. She's got a 3 Octave range.. Please.. and Change her picture if possible..And Can you put her on the List of Mezzo-Sopranos in Non-Classical music, or in Sopranos.. :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.28.138.238 (talk) 18:44, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Please don't remove the Voice Section :). JMalto023 (talk) 10:57, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

New design

I have changed the design of the page based on Hilary Duff's page, as the two are very similar in the sense they are both Disney singers and actresses. The page was very confusing and frustrating to read before, and I feel this way looks much neater and easier to comprehend. I've also updated the picture, as the other one was from 2009. Does anyone have a problem with the way I have designed the page?

There's no problem, but there was mistakes Streamerlovesmusic fixed and they also fixed on how you designed the sections. Thank you for changing the design. 203.97.167.3 (talk) 03:26, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
Just my two cents, but I don't believe in splitting acting and music. It would make sense in Duff's case, but for Lovato, much of her music output are actually soundtracks to her movies, the splitting of sections makes it even more confusing and leads to overlaps and repeated mentions of the same things.Fixer23 (talk) 02:45, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
Hi! I just wanted to ask for one little thing: The "Demi Lovato Summer Tour 2012" part of her career should be in the 2012 section, not the 2010-11 section. Thanks! 186.52.143.133 (talk) 15:08, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 1 August 2012

Can the usage of stone weight be removed? The English pounds in parenthesis is helpful, but the stone weight is unnecessary and distracting. Blain20 (talk) 21:57, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Not done: I think it is generated automatically by a template. Mdann52 (talk) 07:58, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 14 August 2012

I have uploaded four photos to Wikimedia Commons so someone with permission to do so can please change her picture. They are posted above. Choose the best one and you can use the others somewhere else if you want. Shanarae1 (talk) 01:23, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Not done for now: I'm not great at picking pictures, so gain a consensus first with other editors of this article, then make the edit request again :) Cheers — Deontalk 11:44, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

If anyone has an opinion or thinks one picture would be the best choice feel free to say so. I can upload a cropped version as well if I need to. Shanarae1 (talk) 10:34, 14 August 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.203.7.132 (talk)

Marked as answered, since Shanarae has now created a new section for this. BigNate37(T) 19:52, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 15 August 2012

Here are close-up versions of my photos from her concert. I think she looks amazing in the one titled "beautiful eyes" but if you cannot use that one because too much of her face is covered then you can use the one of her smiling. (I would think it would be fine though because Taylor Swift's picture is one with her mouth covered partially by the microphone.) The best caption to describe either of these pictures would probably be "Demi Lovato performing in Springfield, IL on her Summer Tour 2012."

Shanarae1 (talk) 01:42, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Resized and moved pictures side-by-side. FloBo A boat that can float! (watch me float!) 18:29, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

Not done: there is no consensus for changing the image at this time. For disputed changes, edit requests should only be made once a consensus has been built, not in the hopes that consensus will follow. Discussion has stagnated and a slow-motion edit war seems to have taken root, with the only recent "discussion" having occurred in edit summaries. Please actively ask the other editors who are involved in changing the image (try their talk pages if they don't respond here). If that fails, we may need to start a Request for comments or a Dispute resolution thread. BigNate37(T) 20:15, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
I have asked everyone (that I noticed) who has recently changed the lead image to come comment in the section above, #Edit warring over image in infobox.[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] BigNate37(T) 20:50, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 15 August 2012

[[File:Demi|http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/79/Demi_Lovato_smiling_and_singing.JPG]thumb|alt= Demi at her concert in Springfield, IL on August 11, 2012] Miasmithh (talk) 13:24, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Not done: Unilateral edit-requests are not appropriate for pushing a specific solution to a controversy without consensus. DMacks (talk) 01:48, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 21 August 2012

i just want to change the photo of demi lovato to a recent one showing demi happy and healthy

Tylerzoe12 (talk) 12:36, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

 Not done: Please see the sections above this request. Thanks, -- MST☆R (Chat Me!) 12:40, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Vocal detail not noted?

This is about Demi Lovato's vocals. Why is it that this singer's singing isn't yet given recognition? It's already out there that this singer fits in with the likes of Whitney Houston and Leona Lewis, a mezzo-soprano singer. At least make some way to get this recognized so that this shows more interest and tradition in her artistry. This is just not some average artist. 66.233.135.192 (talk) 16:48, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 21 August 2012

Please replace the photo currently used with a more up to date one

Patrick3326 (talk) 18:02, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Not done for now: please see the discussion above about which photograph to use. Your opinions are very welcome and I would like to hear which photograph(s) you think would be best, but the reason the page is protected is to encourage discussion instead of unilateral changes. BigNate37(T) 19:45, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Edit request from LikeLakers2, 22 August 2012

Please replace {{pp-semi-blp|small=yes}} from the first line with {{pp-dispute|expiry=24 August 2012|small=yes}}, to sync up the protection templates with the current protection, and to remove it from the view of Category:Wikipedia pages with incorrect protection templates. Thanks. LikeLakers2 (talk | Sign my guestbook!) 21:57, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

 Done Thanks for catching that! DMacks (talk) 22:10, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 23 August 2012

Remove "Lovato dated actor Wilmer Valderrama on and off in 2011" as no source is provided. Thanks, Sofffie7 (talk) 14:39, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

Done — Mr. Stradivarius (have a chat) 15:30, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

Demi Lovato listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Д. Ловато, Деми Ловато, ديمي لوفاتو, دمی لواتو, Деметриа Девонн Ловато, Деметрия Девонн Ловато. Since you had some involvement with the Demi Lovato redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so). -- 76.65.128.252 (talk) 10:53, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

Bias

I've noticed a bias against English-Americans in many Wikipedia articles, including this one. In her bio, 'Italian American' 'Irish American' and 'Mexican American' are all linked to their respective page. 'English' isn't - it looks like an afterthought. And in the links at the bottom of the page, 'American People of English Descent' is missing. Why the omission? I have tried to correct this before on Wiki (only on pages with correct references) and had my contributions deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bassmaster86 (talk • contribs) 19:19, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

It would appear from genealogy that Demi Lovato is half Mexican and half Anglo-Saxon. Her father's family were Mexicans who lived in New Mexico for many generations. Her mother is of Anglo-Saxon stock from Texas. I don't know where the Irish and Italian come in - maybe Lovato thinks "Lovato" is an Italian surname? It could be, but there are many "Lovato" families that are simply Spanish. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 06:28, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

'Notoriety' always carries a negative connotation

She wrote the song "For the Love of a Daughter" about her estranged father. According to Fabulous Magazine UK, the song is about the rift between Lovato and her father after he - seemingly keen to cash in on his daughter's notoriety

Here "notoriety" should be changed to "fame."

Notoriety = Infamy — Preceding unsigned comment added by AJRózsa (talk • contribs) 01:49, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

You're right, and I've made the change you suggest.VoluntarySlave (talk) 10:25, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 14 September 2012

Evelynk367 (talk) 10:38, 14 September 2012 (UTC) Can I Change The Picture?

No, don't upload pictures what you don't own. --Stryn (talk) 11:14, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
See the above section Talk:Demi_Lovato#Edit_warring_over_image_in_infobox where a consensus has been reached recently. --Sofffie7 (talk) 17:34, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Image of Demi Lovato

Here are some pictures I took at Demi's concert in Springfield, IL on August 11, 2012. Can someone please use one of them to finally update her picture?

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Shanarae1 (talk • contribs) 06:12, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Can you please update the main picture of Demi Lovato...it is from 2009 & we are in 2012..she has changed a lot since 2009 & I think its time for a more recent picture of her. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.219.46.156 (talk) 19:18, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

I tried changing it to a new clear image of her but for some reason, someone changed it back to her old image and I can't undo it! So frustrating! Streamerlovesmusic (talk) 07:34, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

Haha.. Me too.. I was so disappointed when I saw that pic of demi again on her page.. Demi changed very much... PLEASE CHANGE HER PIC!!

If you want to see who changed the image of Demi Lovato, click the "view history" next to "view source"/"edit". Streamerlovesmusic (talk) 02:43, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

So yeah it was me.. I changed the picture because you can better see her face on the one from 2009. I know she has changed and I wish there was a more recent picture of her but there isn't at the moment. The one you put is just a year less old so that barely doesn't change anything! --Sofffie7 (talk) 17:16, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Sofffie7: I contacted the guys that run Demi's website (http://www.freshwunder.com/), asking them for a newer photo that also met your standards of being a full-face shot. If they upload something, please don't remove it. I can't think of anyone (short of Demi herself, and she has better things to do) that would be more authorized to post an appropriate main pic for Demi. Is there anywhere they can contact you directly to give the pic to you for posting? You can drop me a line at: mpatty[at sign]sharetrails.org, or tweet me ([at sign]michael_f_patty). Thanks for your understanding. Like most lovatics, I'd REALLY like a more recent picture of her in the main pic area. Something that showcases her inner beauty and health the way it is now, instead of the painful beauty of her teen-star days. I wouldn't trade those for anything...but the main pic (top right) should be as modern as possible in my view. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Michael Patty (talk • contribs) 15:32, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

Sofffie7 - Addendum: I DO like the shot you used on the main pic. I just don't think it's appropriate right there. If we can get something newer that meets your standards, maybe you could post the current picture somewhere appropriate in the body of the article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Michael Patty (talk • contribs) 15:47, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

I wonder if those guys really care about wikipedia to give a picture away but it's worth the try ;) Last year, when I asked why there wasn't a picture on someone's page, I was told that either you make the picture yourself and put it on Wikimedia Commons or you find one that is not copyrighted on websites such as flicker. Maybe we should look there? I'm ok to send you an e-mail but wouldn't be easier if they contact you and then you put the picture on Wikimedia Commons? I know new contributors can't edit on this page here but I think any contributor can add a picture on Commons... I'm saying this because I don't really know how Commons works... ^^ And finally, I do agree to place the current picture somewhere else in the article once we have a good recent one for the infobox. --Sofffie7 (talk) 22:31, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

UPDATE: Hey Sofffie7, Micheal Pattty and Streamerlovesmusic, I don't know if you know but actually there are pictures of Lovato on Wikimedia Commons section "An Evening with Demi Lovato", which were taken in September 2011 and appeared freely on Flickr. You might find there what you're looking for. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.201.45.228 (talk) 23:20, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

A CONCERN: One concern I have now, after considering the matter, is that Demi's Facebook page still uses the same picture as the wikipedia photo (the 2009 one). She controls THAT page directly (or, more accurately, someone does it for her). This MAY indicate a desire on her part to keep using that pic, for now. I am not sure where the official policy of Wikipedia stands on which takes priority (accuracy and timeliness vs. the wishes of the person being described), but I am inclined (as a Demi fan) to let it be if that's what she prefers. Sadly, there's no way to know for sure. She's WAY to busy to follow things like our discussion here, much as we love her. :) What do you guys think? comment added by Michael Patty (talk • contribs) 11:59, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

AN UPDATE PLEASE: Could someone change the picture and put a more recent one, Demi has a lot of new things going on (X factor's judge rumor, summer tour...) so it would be nice if we could see an updated picture of Demi so people who don't know her will be introduced to Demi Lovato and what she looks like in 2012. Here's a really cool picture you could put: http://www.mtv.com/onair/new_years_eve/2012/photos/flipbooks/show-highlights/demi-lovato-STC_5878.jpg . You could put below "Demi Lovato performing on MTV's New Year's Eve, on december 31st in NYC. Thank you, that'd be amazing!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.43.123.134 (talk) 04:23, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

Updation of Image of Demi Lovato : Can someone change image and replace it with a more recent one. http://cdn04.cdnwp.celebuzz.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/11/Demi-Lovato-at-2012-Peoples-Choice-Awards-5-1961x3000.jpg this image would be appropriate as this is from one of her big acheivements: People Choice Awards. Please someone look into this matter. Mudz B (talk) 09:37, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

We can't use every image on wikipedia. The photo must be available under the right license. For further information about that, see Licensing. Those photos here, can be used for this article. But discuss your choice on this talk page before you change the photo in the article. Kind regards. --Simon.hess (talk) 10:32, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
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This photo is one of the most recent ones and I believe the most suitable for the article. Unfortunately the image isn't facing her face very well. Other opinions? --Simon.hess (talk) 10:42, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

I used that, but apparently, they didn't like it. So they reverted it. We need a picture that faces Lovato very well. Like she is facing the camera. Streamerlovesmusic (talk) 01:56, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

I'VE GOT ONE: I licensed it the way you told me to do it, tell me if I'm wrong with the copyright tag, but I've been authorized to use that picture by the owner and to modify it (cut it) a bit. here it is http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Demi_Lovato_in_Italy.jpg . You can see Lovato's face well, and she's facing the camera, and it's recent, from last march! — Preceding unsigned comment added by RomanKara (talk • contribs) 04:19, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

The problem I see with the image is that there is no evidence that the author accepted the license. The website also includes: "All Photos in this gallery belong to their respectful owners ... and if asked to be removed by the photographer (with legit proof), photos will be removed as soon as possible". Tbhotch.™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 04:23, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Ok, thank you. I asked the owners to prove it, they'll probably send a mail to the e-mail adress given below the picture I put. But can you tell me though if you think it's good material, could it be used as the picture on the front page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by RomanKara (talk • contribs) 04:33, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Someone update her picture. Do you guys like it or do you guys want to stick with the old one? 203.97.167.3 (talk) 03:29, 26 May 2012 (UTC) PLEASE CHANGE HER PIC :) We want a new one.. try her pic from the ALMA Awards 2011.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JMalto023 (talk • contribs) 05:20, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

You have to understand that we can't go changing the image every week because somebody disagrees with the current image. This is Wikipedia not a fanzine nor Lovatics fansite. Tbhotch.™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 05:31, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
I Changed the photo.. is it ok? or you're going to remove it again?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by JMalto023 (talk • contribs) 05:39, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
Seeing as you uploaded a copyrighted image to Commons and then linked to it here, yes, I changed it back. You are likely to be blocked from editing if you do that again.—Kww(talk) 11:13, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
Is there a photo that has no copyright? How can I find it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by JMalto023 (talk • contribs) 20:13, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
They are difficult to find. The one we are currently using is one, though. That's why we use it.—Kww(talk) 20:16, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
Where can I find it's copyright?? Do I have to inspect it's elements?JMalto023(talk)
It's copyrighted unless you can find a specific release from the author stating that it isn't. By default, pretty much everything is copyrighted. There are some exceptions, but they aren't going to apply to pictures of Lovato.—Kww(talk) 22:30, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Can you stop switching the images, because every time I look at this page the picture's different. This is from 2009 and needs to be updated, besides...she really doesn't look that pretty in this picture. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.5.190.156 (talk) 22:07, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Edit warring over image in infobox

The following is a closed discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was File:Demi Lovato 2, (Cropped).jpg

Analysis: I see a preference for an unobscured face (but second choice partially-obscured concert-shot) with an overriding preference for recognizeable and preference for somewhat recent (but no consensus for "most recent"). By concept, that leaves us with Option B among the original six, with Picture 2 an improved version of it, and that one is also specifically mentioned as among the choices of many commenters. Thank you to all who participated here! Hopefully this dispute can be set aside and everyone can get back to the primary goal of wikipedia: writing an encyclopedia of information. DMacks (talk) 05:29, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

There's a slow-motion edit war going on right now over the image in the infobox, and discussion seems to have gone stagnant. Edit summaries are not an acceptable form of discussion; they are only for describing your change to make the history easier to browse, or for including a brief rationale for non-controversial changes (we are well past the point of calling this non-controversial). Everyone should have a read of Wikipedia:Edit warring, which has some helpful tips for how to solve the problem here instead of escalating it. As a newcomer to this page, I'm going to try to start some discussion back up here. This is a gallery of the six images that have been used or suggested for the infobox (i.e., the first picture in the article) in the last week or so alone:

  • Option A
    Option A
  • Option B
    Option B
  • Option C
    Option C
  • Option D
    Option D
  • Option E
    Option E
  • Option F
    Option F

If anyone wants to add another choice feel free; if you are opposed to some of them, please explain why. If you support some of them, please say so as well. It would also be a very good thing if you based your decision off of the relevant style guideline, which is at Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Images#Images for the lead. BigNate37(T) 20:28, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

  • I like options B and C the most (with no preference between the two). They are better pictures in my opinion, and either of them satisfy the MOS as natural, appropriate, identifiable images. Option A is alright, although to me her expression makes her a little less immediately recognizable. Option F is okay, but I would prefer it to be lower down in the article somewhere, rather than in the lead. I am opposed to options D and E, though, since her expression is a little weird in both of those. BigNate37(T) 20:36, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
    • Update: M.Sunshine's Picture 2 below is preferable to option B, as it's a better version of the same photo. BigNate37(T) 19:43, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Administrator comment: I have been asked to help resolve this image dispute. I have not previously been involved in the changing images or discussion thereof. I'm not going to express an opinion, but will monitor this discussion for the next three days and try to determine WP:CONSENSUS the reasoned opinions posted in this section among the above 6 choices or another specific one you list. In the mean time, I have fully protected the article to quench the simultaneous edit-warring, so there is no need to discuss the article's current state or editors' behavior related to that. This is not a vote, so I recommend giving a brief rationale for how your preference (or antipreference) enhances the article by usual Wikipedia standards. Images that are not free-licensed will be rejected out-of-hand by policy (and deleted). Participants note that images that are not the consensus could still be used elsewhere in the article (images from a specific event, tour, or time-frame in the section about that entity). In addition, all images should be placed in Category:Demi Lovato, and then the cat itself will be linked in the ext-links section (using {{commons category}}) as usual for this sort of content-collection. DMacks (talk) 01:43, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Hello, I see this is the best two images of Demi Lovato in Wikimedia Commons, in terms of size and colors modified. Look:
  • Picture 1
    Picture 1
  • Picture 2
    Picture 2
Let's see in the Picture 2, was used in the List of awards and nominations received by Demi Lovato. They are the best so far. And What is everyone's opinion ? --M.Sunshine (talk) 17:16, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
  • Hahaha I think Picture 2 wins here...we don't want a picture of Lovato frowning do we? 203.97.167.3 (talk) 07:41, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
  • The lead image should show the face and not be blocked by a microphone. Assuming licensing is not in question, A, B and D are acceptable. A was the lead image for a long time and I think it should be used in the article somewhere. Many articles are now subject to frequent image changes as people think they need to be "updated". One solution to these frequent changes is to simply make the lead image a random selection among alternatives (which could include images elsewhere in the article.) Gimmetoo (talk) 14:35, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
  • Yeah I agree. Lovato's lead image should not have a microphone in front of her face, as it blocks her full image of her face and will be hard/er to recognize. I also agree that Picture 2 (in my opinion) is my pick, as she is smiling and her facial expression is easily recognizable. Plus it's not copyrighted. There was a photo of her in the 2012 Teen Choice Awards of her facing the camera and smiling but the problem is, her hair is tied up and that wouldn't be recognizable as well. But if it's fine for you guys then do anything you want really... Streamerlovesmusic (talk) 07:21, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
  • Wow it's been a while since I give this page and it "amazes" that people are still discussing over the infobox picture. My inital reasoning was that it was better to have an image of her where you see a clear face so picture A, B or D would fit, while picture C, E, and F wouldn't fit this criteria. The problem other users/IPs raised raised is that neither A nor B are recent and when I look at Taylor Swift's page, the infobox picture used is one of her holding a mic, which is at the same time recent. So if you want the most recent one than it's either C or F (on E her face is really blocked by the mic). In terms of quality, A, B and D are certainly OK but I'm not sure for those of her in concerts.. However, if the choice ends up to be between those 2 pictures then the recentness shouldn't be taken into account because they are from the same year. --Sofffie7 (talk) 14:14, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
  • Hey everyone! I found a picture that -in my opinion- would fit perfectly in the infobox. We can clearly see her face, and it's from 2011. If you agree or disagree, say so, and if a lot of people agree, feel free to upload it. Thanks! 190.135.46.16 (talk) 15:23, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/s5vNegfunJh/Demi+Lovato+Live+Chat+Cambio+Studios/W49AL750z5w

  • That is a nice picture, but that website uses CC-BY-NC-ND 2.5 [8]. Non-commercial licenses are not acceptable at Wikipedia. BigNate37(T) 16:37, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
Hello again, I've replaced the picture with best picture. For it is better than the old version. Regards. --M.Sunshine (talk) 00:50, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Option A is my favourite --88.111.127.3 (talk) 16:36, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

Edit request 9/15/12

Could someone add the pronunciation: /dɪˈmiːtriə dɪˈvɒn ˈdɛmi loʊˈvɑːtoʊ/? 109.245.57.105 (talk) 11:00, 15 September 2012 (UTC)Edit Requester

 Not done Please provide a reliable source. Vacation9 (talk) 23:36, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

Getting owned by a X factor Candidate

On the [X Factor] Demi got owned for being claimed to use http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auto-Tune I think this should go in a critiiscm section of her page.

Refrences

--88.111.127.3 (talk) 16:42, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

Ridiculousness. This is an encyclopedia, not TMZ. Zac  16:54, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

So is that a no?--88.111.127.3 (talk) 16:58, 17 September 2012 (UTC) It should be included! User --88.111.117.148 (talk) 17:18, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Instruments

Demi Lovato also plays Bass and Keyboard , you should add them to the instruments.

Here's a proof :

Bass : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpvfpdq0wY0

Keyboard : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wUba-jyJZw

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.104.68.0 (talk) 10:23, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

Section merging suggestion

To give the article a bit more flow, I suggest that the acting and music career sections be merged and reorganized into one general career section with appropriate subheads within. Her role on The X Factor could be moved from the "Other ventures" section into the main career section, and philanthropy can be given its own section. Any suggestions? 75.130.102.69 (talk) 20:49, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Weight

Is it really necessary to have her weight/height statistics on the 'early life' section? I haven't seen these in many other posts about people with eating disorders, and they can be very triggering to recovering ED sufferers. It doesn't add anything to the article, and I think they are not needed. It would be great if we could find a way to frame this section in a way that doesn't need it.

I know that you can go to the source and read the statistics there, but I do think the section would be better off without it.

86.162.243.29 (talk) 01:51, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

Acting and Music Career

The new arrangement after emerging Lovato's acting and music career together is so confusing !

Please undo the emerging and make her acting career and her music career in two separate sections, just like before. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.97.90.41 (talk) 03:39, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

New Picture

NEW PICS http://www.exposay.com/celebrity-photos/demi-lovato-good-morning-america-july-2012-oP6Qc7.jpg http://www.disneydreaming.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Demi-Lovato-Prayers-For-Her-Aunt-Pam.jpg We need a better pic --88.111.127.3 (talk) 17:12, 17 September 2012 (UTC) --88.111.113.78 (talk) 19:14, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia is forbidden from using images "you find on the internet" because they are generally not free and we obviously cannot engage in violations of copyright law. DMacks (talk) 19:31, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

What new pic could we have?--88.111.113.78 (talk) 16:17, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

would we be allowed one from her site?--88.111.114.152 (talk) 16:15, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

No. DMacks (talk) 16:54, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

What pic could we have? coz it really needs updating!--88.111.127.125 (talk) 16:05, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

Hi! A discussion on the matter took place a few weeks ago (see the above section Talk:Demi_Lovato#Edit_warring_over_image_in_infobox) where a consensus has been reached. If you can find a recent image that is non-copyrighted and that is clear enough or if you do own such an image, then we may consider a change. --Sofffie7 (talk) 18:26, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

Where can you find picures like that?--88.111.127.125 (talk) 16:22, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

--88.111.125.204 (talk) 18:20, 13 October 2012 (UTC)== Edit semi-protected ==

There is some things that are missing on this page that I wish to add. also the pic as the default pic of Demi is old. she no longer has brown hair. she now has blonde hair with bangs. I would like to make these changes — Preceding unsigned comment added by Squishy-Sushi (talk • contribs) 21:31, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

Because you are a new user you can't edit the page but if you explain the changes you'd like to make, someone else may do them if they are constructive and sourced. As for the infobox image, a discussion on the matter took place a few weeks ago (see the above section Talk:Demi_Lovato#Edit_warring_over_image_in_infobox) where a consensus has been reached. If you can find an image of her with the new haircut that is non-copyrighted and that is clear enough, then we may consider a change. --Sofffie7 (talk) 22:03, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
If you ask her (Demi) to give a photo, and she agrees, then can we use that photo?--88.111.119.126 (talk) 17:38, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
Only the photographer can release the rights, not the subject of the photo.—Kww(talk) 18:52, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
What if I was the photograhper?--79.69.107.171 (talk) 16:27, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
Then you are free to release the rights.—Kww(talk) 18:40, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
Even if I took the photo without her(Demi)'s permission? --88.111.125.204 (talk) 16:32, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
Yes, so long as there isn't a privacy issue. If you jumped into her toilet stall or something and took a picture, there would be a problem. If she's out in public, there isn't one.—Kww(talk) 16:43, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
I'll upload one of mine!--88.111.121.43 (talk) 16:19, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Hello, I found a recent picture of Demi Lovato on Getty Images, I thought it would be very suitable as a main picture of her Wikipedia page so I bought it legally and took the full permission to use it on any website including Wikipedia (I have a screen-capture of the bill I received). Here is the picture stocked on Getty Images: http://www.gettyimages.ae/detail/news-photo/judge-demi-lovato-on-foxs-the-x-factor-season-2-live-news-photo/155103687 Here is the picture that I bought: http://i.imgur.com/hx80A.jpg And here is the bill: http://i.imgur.com/bUZxp.jpg And the caption is: "Lovato on FOX's The X Factor Season 2 Live Performance Show." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.173.207.2 (talk) 14:17, 11 November 2012 (UTC)

Hey Guys, can we use this pic? :D

File: Demi Lovato Blonde.jpg — Preceding unsigned comment added by JMalto023 (talk • contribs) 00:14, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

No. You have to own the image or get a suitable license. There's no way to get a suitable license from Getty.—Kww(talk) 00:24, 16 November 2012

(UTC)

:( JMalto023 (talk) 00:33, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Enlarged Images

Who's enlarging the Demi Lovato images so big that they are getting cluttered together? I think they are about 260-310px. I am going to make the images smaller. CPGirlAJ (talk) 03:27, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

New legal picture to be added.

Hello, I found a recent picture of Demi Lovato on Getty Images, I thought it would be very suitable as a main picture of her Wikipedia page so I bought it legally and took the full permission to use it on any website including Wikipedia (I have a screen-capture of the bill I received). Here is the picture stocked on Getty Images: http://www.gettyimages.ae/detail/news-photo/judge-demi-lovato-on-foxs-the-x-factor-season-2-live-news-photo/155103687 Here is the picture that I bought: http://i.imgur.com/hx80A.jpg And here is the bill: http://i.imgur.com/bUZxp.jpg And the caption is: "Lovato on FOX's The X Factor Live Performance Show." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.185.189.101 (talk) 19:07, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

You not only need permission for you to use it on any website. You also need to have permission to release it to any one else to use in any manner they wish. I am fairly certain none of the Getty liceneses are infact CC-BY-SA compliant. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 19:27, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
The license for a purchased picture from Getty isn't sufficient. They don't allow one person to buy one copy and then use it everywhere. If they did, it would prevent them from selling more than one copy of any image.—Kww(talk) 00:07, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Ancestry

Please change Lovato's ancestry in the Early Life section. According to her, she is Irish, Hispanic, Native American and Portuguese.

Here's the source: https://twitter.com/ddlovato/status/267890338557992960 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.97.90.41 (talk) 00:03, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

NEW PICTURE WITH LICENSE

Here is a new picture of Demi Lovato with "Attribution, Share Alike License" taken by Jessica Turner http://www.flickr.com/photos/jess-turner-90/ please use as a main picture of her wiki page because i've been dying to find photos like these — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.108.72.89 (talk) 13:42, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

These are just flipped and cropped versions of the photos at just jared .com/photo-gallery/2675964/britney-spears-demi-lovato-san-francisco-x-factor-auditions-01}}. Someone that didn't own them played with them and reuploaded them to flickr.com in an effort to trick us. Note that the link has spaces in it because of spamfilter problems.—Kww(talk) 15:16, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

picture

Anattribution, share alike photo FROM WIKIPEDIA is needed to be added as a main picture on Demi's page, here it is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Demi_Lovato_white_guitar.JPG MANY popular start such as B. Spears, Lady Gaga and more have tour pictures as their main picture — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.108.72.89 (talk) 16:33, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

that other articles have desended to the level of bad myspace galleries is not sufficient reason to allow additional degradation to more articles. Go create a fan page somewhere and you can post all the illegal photos that you want without Wikipedia editors stopping you. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 16:37, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

New Demi Lovato Image

We should use this image for the new infobox image:

It's a more current picture and it shows all of her face. Plus, she's looking at the camera. I think we should use the current infobox picture in the "Personal Life" section. CPGirlAJ (talk) 20:53, 4 November 2012 (UTC) Is their a better picture, if not then use this one!--88.111.117.148 (talk) 17:20, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

New picture :)

Heyyyy guys!!! there is a legal picture to use as Demi's head picture http://www.flickr.com/photos/ashton_noe/6450830085/in/photostream/ Demi looks very beautiful here so can you please change it? :D I'd understand if you disagree x Thanks for helping guys<3 — Preceding unsigned comment added by SelenaAbdul (talk • contribs) 09:39, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

Demi Lovato Flickr Image

Is it possible if we could add a cropped version (the part where Demi is in) of this image on Wikimedia Commons? The image has "some rights reserved" so we can use it in articles. CPGirlAJ (talk) 22:37, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

It's an improperly licensed derivative work. The originals don't belong to the person that posted them.—Kww(talk) 23:00, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 23 November 2012

107.198.53.82 (talk) 04:22, 23 November 2012 (UTC) Demi lovato is going to Texas A&M

Not done at this time. Content requires a reliable source. Do you have such a source to support the proposed content? -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 05:05, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

Demi Lovato The X Factor USA

Can we use this image as the infobox picture because it is the most current (it was the day before yesterday) and it shows all of her face. Plus, it is something she is doing now (which is being a judge on The X Factor). CPGirlAJ (talk) 22:01, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

Maybe not. Image quality and resolution is not best possible. Image in the article not need to be the most current. --Stryn (talk) 22:13, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

NEW PICTURE

Hey guys!!! there is a legal picture to use as Demi's head picture http://www.flickr.com/photos/ashton_noe/6450830085/in/photostream/ Demi looks very beautiful here so can you please change it? it's legal and you can check the photo license, thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.249.2.216 (talk) 12:37, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

Obvious copyvio. Obviously not acceptable. DMacks (talk) 17:08, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
You sure it's copyvio? Btw, I've already uploaded it to Commons: File:Demi Lovato - Lightweight.jpg. --Stryn (talk) 17:52, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
I don't see the copyvio on this image. I can't find it on Getty Images, picture taken with non-pro CanonPowerShot SX130 IS, relatively poor quality that would embarrass any pro. Licenced CC BY 2.0. Does the flickr user have a history of copyright violations? Anyway looks OK to me. Geraldo Perez (talk) 18:09, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
On flickr, it's listed as "request to license via getty" or some similar terminology". DMacks (talk) 01:31, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
Request to license photos via Getty Images looks like a service Getty provides to anyone who would like to sell photos, not just stuff on Getty Images already. I've seen this before on Flickr, I don't think it means the flickr account is hosting copyvio images. --Geraldo Perez (talk) 01:55, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
That info asserts that one needs to contact getty to get permission to use/license (with getty acting as the agent, as you describe, rather than owning), not just as a storage/printing service. If it requires getting permission and/or paying to use, it's not free. DMacks (talk) 02:04, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
Not on Flickr. It's a standard link to a standard service, and Flickr isn't smart enough to suppress it for images that are aleady available via CC-BY-SA. I tend to agree the picture is free. I also think the last thing we need is another picture of Demi Lovato.—Kww(talk) 02:15, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

2011–present: Unbroken and fourth studio album

On December 24, Lovato uploaded a song on Youtube about the children of Newtown. in this part can you put that the song is called ANGEL AMONG US — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kpmbsgam (talk • contribs) 18:54, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

New pic?

Can we get a new pic?--79.69.96.179 (talk) 17:44, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

New album - 2013

Could we make a new subpage for her album since it only redirects to her main wikipedia page. She confirmed that it will be called DEMI on her @ddlovato official page on twitter (LINK), released official cover artwork of it in the same post and also confirmed the release date on Twitter. The pre-order will be available on April 2nd in the US and Canada and April 9th worldwide according to description of her official album trailer. We can put Heart Attack as a debut single since we have enough information for it. For the description of the album we can quote her official Heart Attack single - "...These are songs about the celebration of life and how rewarding it can be. This is what this album is about."

I would recommend this picture to be the main picture because it's the largest I found on google image search. And it's the album cover so it would make sense.


--78.3.220.33 (talk) 01:26, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

 Not done We don't create articles because the subject exists. We create them because the subject is notable, and DEMI is (as today) a not notable album as there is no indication it is. Tbhotch.™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 03:08, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 12 April 2013

I would like to change her birth place. She was actually born in Dallas, Texas. Roseylantigua (talk) 00:11, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

 Not done You would need to provide a reliably published source. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 00:17, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

And since the Albuquerque claim is not reliably sourced, either, i have removed that. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 00:24, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
but someone pointed to a reliable source for Albuquerque and there was another one for New Mexico more broadly so that has now been restored and we will stick with that until there are multiple reliable sources that say otherwise. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 00:43, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
I restored Albuquerque in the article, per the source you added in the infobox. Plus, Lovato confirms it in this video. It might not be a reliable source and that's why I didn't add it in the article but at least we're sure she was born there ;) --Sofffie7 (talk) 10:54, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
thanks for finishing - i had intended to do so and thought I did but it must have been in a tab i didnt actually save. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 14:25, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

Can anyone link the kurdish version of Demi in this article?

ku:Demi Lovato — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dirdo Baro (talk • contribs) 12:04, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

No, that information does not belong in the article. It belongs at and has already been added at D:Q41173 where all the interwiki links live. Geraldo Perez (talk) 14:17, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

Singles chart

Can someone create a chart of singles for Demi Lovato. A lot of other artists have a chart that list their releases. Their highest Billboard chart positions would be great too! But I would like to know what singles she's released at a glance rather than having to read through the entire article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Danpetitpas (talk • contribs) 15:30, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 19 May 2013

Lovato can also play the drums too. Evidence to say so is given here http://www.teenvogue.com/entertainment/tv/demi-lovato-goes-solo and in her very first interview here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMZfhgqvw1Q and several other places mention it. Please include "Drums" to the instruments line in her bio. Thanks in advance. Girl4Music20 (talk) 20:19, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

 Not done the teen vogue site just says that she says she is learning to play the drums. the you tube video is not a reliably published source. If you have one of those other sites that actually says she plays the drums, or puts the "learning to" into a specific context (such as "In order to play the role of Gina Schock she is learning to play the drums") it can be added, otherwise it is just trivia. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 20:31, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

Rehab

Lovato entered rehab in October 2010 afterhaving hit a backup dancer on her tour — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.80.97.213 (talk) 21:00, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

GA Review

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Reviewer: TonyTheTiger (talk · contribs) 15:02, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

  • I couldn't find an archive for that information, so I had to remove it.
  • Fix ALLCAPS refs.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 18:51, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
     Done
  • Fix all Twitter refs to be more like 119 although including the quote is generally not done.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 03:17, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
     Done, I just replaced them with a better reference.
  • I apologize. But on a second readthrough, I am realizing the you have no critical commentary on any of her roles, performances, songs or albums. Without critical commentary, this is really just a proselized discography and filmography. The whole career section needs expansion in this regard. Although most of her awards are teen pop stuff there must be some critical analysis of her performances available in the PD. I am reconsidering my hold, but will give you a chance to respond before I do.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 03:50, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
    • Thanks for your feedback. I'll add some critical opinions of her works, and make sure that the additional issues you highlighted are corrected so the review doesn't have to be failed. I'll leave a message on your talkpage when I complete those tasks. WikiRedactor (talk) 17:34, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
      • Just leave a note here. I am watching.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 23:39, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
        • Okay, so I went through each career section and added some critical comments of her projects. (I tried to balance the overall favorable receptions with some minor criticism and areas of concern, to remain neutral.) Let me know what you think, and then we can work from there. Thanks again, WikiRedactor (talk) 16:20, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
WP:LEAD
  • Why is a 2009 picture still the main image? The 2010 image is more recent and seems as good. I kind of understand why the 2012 images might not be preferred, but why 2009 over 2010? Can we find anything newer?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 05:36, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
  • Unfortunately, the resolution for the 2010 picture is to poor to make it the main picture.
 Done
 Done
Early life and career beginnings
 Done
 Done
  • In 2006, she appeared on Prison Break, and on Just Jordan the following year. -->In 2006, she appeared on Prison Break, and she was on Just Jordan the following year.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 18:10, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
 Done
2007–08
Camp Rock and Don't Forget
  • The premiere date is mentioned in the following section, which gets into more detail about the series.
2009–10
Sonny With a Chance and Here We Go Again
  • "All of the song's proceeds were sent to environmental charities to the Disney Worldwide Conservation Fund." seems ungrammatical.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 17:57, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
  •  Done, reworded.
  • "Its music incorporated acoustic styles, which she described to be similar to the work of John Mayer." Did Lovato play some type of guitar or other instrument?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 17:57, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
  •  Done, no she didn't I reworded it to be a bit more clear.
  • "Grey's Anatomy" name and date the episode. If it has a link, link to it and name the season. If not link to the season article.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 17:57, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
  •  Done, added.
  • If you mean Grey's Anatomy, the episode was not the season finale.
2010–12
Personal struggles, acting hiatus, and Unbroken
  •  Done, corrected.
2012–present
The X Factor and Demi
  • "In March 2012, MTV aired a documentary special," Can you find any critical commentary about this from 3rd parties? All you have included is MTV refs.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 18:06, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
  •  Done, replaced with Idolator.
  • Were there stories in the press related to her having significant weight fluctuations due to her various disorders and treatments?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 18:06, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
  •  Done, added a brief mention.
Philanthropy
  •  Done, reworded.
Artistry
  •  Done, linked.
Public image
  •  Done to all except the following two protected images: File:Demi Lovato 2, (Cropped).jpg and File:DemiLovatoApr09.jpg.
  • Sure thing, I asked a Commons user to do it, because apparently I am not an established user of the service.
  • The templates have been added to all pictures.

I am putting this article on hold. I will reevaluate it within 7 days.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 18:59, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

I am now PASSING the article. Good work.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 05:43, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

More recent picture??

Shouldn't the main picture be updated? I'm sure here will be a lot of new recent pictures of her by now. Reasons: 1) The picture is of 2009. It's 2013 now, more than 4 years after it! 2) She's changed since that picture. She's become healthier, more confident and isn't broken like she was at that time. The picture should portray how she is currently. 3) It's not a very flattering picture of her, is it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mikhailcazi (talk • contribs) 13:21, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Do you have a image whose license suits with Wikimedia copyright rules? Note that images obtained from internet are likely to be copyrighted. Tbhotch.™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 18:47, 5 June 2013 (UTC)


When are we going to get a more recent picture? The one in the info box is since 2009, way too long ago. Please change it to a picture like this: File:Demi Lovato X-Factor 2, 2012.jpg. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CPGirlAJ (talk • contribs) 19:30, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

That's a really poor resolution picture. The quality is not up to the standard for infobox pictures. --AussieLegend (✉) 15:07, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Why not use one of the 2012 images in the article for a profile pic? XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 03:43, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

Bipolar disorder type distinction

I guess this is an edit request...but there is a distinction between bipolar disorder I (which is the 'classic' form and is normally just called bipolar disorder) and bipolar disorder II which normally has II at the end of it. Bipolar II is what Demi has so I think the distinction should be made here? In her MTV documentary when she talks about bipolar and it shows flashes from the DSM, it highlights 'bipolar II' as well and makes this distinction here.Moped1234 (talk) 00:27, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 30 September 2013

Veggietalesisthenewcool (talk) 00:52, 30 September 2013 (UTC) Add her 2 year on and off again relationship with Wilmer Valderrama, change the front picture of her and then, finally, mention her role on glee. Politically, she is a registered democrat who supports gay rights. She is, however, a supporter (at least friendly mention) of George W. Bush.

The article describes her as an active supporter of gay rights so she should go into the lgbt rights category. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.41.64.71 (talk) 20:42, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

Not done: The things in your first paragraph will require reliable sources before they can be included. We can add an LGBT rights catgory, but I cannot see which on the 355 LGBT rights categories would be suitable for an "active supporter" who is not actually an activist. Which do you suggest? --Stfg (talk) 13:43, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 5 October 2013

24.240.24.60 (talk) 06:14, 5 October 2013 (UTC) In Her personal life she has dated Miley Cyrus' older brother Trace Cyruse who was in the band MEtro station they dated from 2009 to 2010, she also dated Joe Jonas, and she is currently dating Wilmer Valderrama he used to be in that &0's show where he played the foreign character Fez

Not done: I doubt that details of dating are relevant to an encyclopdia article in any case. At the very least, reliable sources would be needed. --Stfg (talk) 13:48, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
They are relevant enough to be mentioned in short form if reliable sources (other than gossip sites) mention it -Loginnigol 15:38, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

Glee

Perhaps the below could change to say she plays the love interest to the Santana Lopez character. Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/04/glee-demi-lovato-santana-love-interest_n_4041348.html

On August 22, it was announced that Lovato had signed on to appear in at least 6 episodes of the fifth season of Glee. Lovato will reportedly play a struggling New York-based artist named Dani who befriends Rachel Berry (Lea Michele) and Santana Lopez (Naya Rivera) and also interacts with fellow newcomer Adam Lambert's character. Lovato will reportedly make her debut during the second episode of the season, which is scheduled to air on October 3.[120][121] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Montavillian (talk • contribs) 21:18, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

NEW PICTURE

Wikipedia replaced the last picture with a picture just as old. Please update the pic as Demi is years older now and looks so much different. This picture is not accurate to who Demi is today, therefore it is misleading. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.59.64.18 (talk) 23:08, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

At the time, it was the best image available (you can read the extensive discussion in this talk-page's archives leading to a WP:CONSENSUS to use the one there now). Unless you own a better one (took with your camera and donate via an open license), there are no others available that were not considered during that discussion. DMacks (talk) 13:59, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

I agree their should be a new picture.--88.111.123.143 (talk) 21:57, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

There is a recent picture now, taken last month. XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 23:55, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
I undid that change. There was an extensive discussion with WP:CONSENSUS to use the image that was there. You'll certainly need a new discussion to get a new consensus, not a random editor doing it by fiat. DMacks (talk) 01:12, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
It doesn't make sense to have such an outdated picture now, though. Why would people debate over having it in the article? XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 01:19, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
Consensus can change, and there are ways to do that, but WP:CONSENSUS is one of the 5 most basic policies of Wikipedia. As a start, one could dispute that having the "most recent" image is a key concern, or complain that having an image with product-placement or banner logos in the background is inappropriate. I'm not taking that position for now, merely demonstrating that you are not correct about your opinion trumping policy. DMacks (talk) 01:27, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
I never said it "trumped" anything, I was simply supporting the use of the new pic on behalf of its uploader. XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 01:29, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Consensus for a new picture

18 months ago there was a consensus to use the image File:Demi Lovato 2, (Cropped).jpg. The reason why it was created it was because of the constant edit-war over the image. At that time this image was probably the best alternative. Now there is a new image File:Redlight Traffics Inaugural Dignity Gala (10359162853).jpg. I generally don't like the change of image when a new one appears, but the new image is a better proposal than the current image. It has a better quality (3,000 pixels v. 1000) and Lovato's face is more visible and recognizable. As creator of this subsection, I support the recent image to replace the current image. © Tbhotch™ (en-2.5). 01:23, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

I support using this new picture as well XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 01:25, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
Weak Support: It's not my all-time favorite photo, but it's sharper than the old one, and the logo probably isn't any worse than what looks like someone's shoulder in the foreground of the older one. No objections to using the replacement until something better (like with a background color that doesn't blend into her hair) comes along. Fat&Happy (talk) 01:43, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
If there are no objections to using this new photo, how many more "support" votes are needed for it to pass? XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 18:17, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
Wikipedia consensus is not an election (WP:NOTDEMOCRACY), if no one complains in a week it can be replaced (in my opinion). © Tbhotch™ (en-2.5). 02:04, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
The image is recent and of good quality, so why not? I don't know if the license is correct, if not someone else should improve it; I'm not an expert in that field. --Sofffie7 (talk) 11:53, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
The new image is superior to the current and it's usable; I support it becoming the new infobox picture. Acalamari 12:08, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

Edit request

MOST INSPIRING PERSON EVER 50.143.58.31 (talk) 22:52, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. — TheJJJunk (say hello) 23:27, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

Glee photos and expanded Glee entry

There's a nice X-Factor pic of Demi (2012–present: The X Factor, Demi, and return to acting), but there are no Glee photos. I'd like to suggest adding at least one photo from her work on Glee, as this is a rather huge step in her career (her return to acting). Also, the segment about her work on Glee is kind of short. Can we expand it?

Otherwise, this is a GREAT page!

Michael Patty 67.41.43.204 (talk) 19:08, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

If anybody can find a free image of her on Glee, than feel free to use it. XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 22:57, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

géfe político

Why isn't it jefe político? Why does géfe require an accent on the default stressed syllable?
99.247.1.157 (talk) 22:47, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

"Staying Strong" book and Occupations.

Can we put something about the book that she wrote entitled "Staying Strong: 365 Days a Year" which was released on November 19th, 2013? Also, seeing as how she wrote a book, can we also add "author" to the list of occupations? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iamhaleyiam (talk • contribs) 20:23, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

It would be too soon to list her as an author since it so far is her only book. Wait until she releases more before adding such a description. XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 23:44, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

Heritage

Demi Lovato was born to a Mexican-American father and a mother of British Isles descent. This is pretty obvious from lengthy descriptions here and elsewhere. Given contardictory statements such as this, I think the article should simply state exactly that: Mexican-American father and British Isles-American mother. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 05:14, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

It turns out EthniCelebs is not a reliable source, but I've added the ethnic categories that tweet provided. Not sure what her mother's ethnicity is..... XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 05:22, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
I suppose you could say ethnicelebs technically isn't a reliable source, but it's obviously accurate (and IMDB says the same thing): her paternal grandparents were New Mexicans of Mexican (Spanish and Native American, I guess) descent, and her mother is clearly of British Isles descent (the surnames on her line include Smith, Snodgrass, Emmons, Davlin, and so on). This stuff like Portuguese and Italian is just bells and whistles, probably stemming from confusion about the origin of the surname "Lovato" (which just goes back to Hispanics in New Mexico for many generations). All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 05:25, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
IMDb is not a reliable source either. However, we could possibly use some of the links EthniCelebs provided to learn about her mother's ethnicity. I was quite surprised myself to find EthniCelebs isn't reliable. "Hart" does have an English vibe, so I wouldn't be surprised if she has English ancestry. XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk)
Yes, IMDB isn't reliable either, but it is accurate in this case. "Hart" is not her mother's maiden name, though. It is the surname of her mother's stepfather, the Rev. Perry Eugene Hart (see here - #37, and then here - #44). Her mother was born Dianna Lee Smith. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 05:36, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
Smith is a very English name as well. However, there is a chance that could've been anglicized from something else or had some other completely different non-English name. Demi definitely has Mexican and Spanish ancestry through Patrick, though let's look further into Dianna's.
Well, as ethnicelebs and that familytreemaker link state, "Demi’s maternal grandparents were Donald Lee Smith (the son of Hugh Smith and June Snodgrass) and Sue Dianne Emmons (the daughter of Aaron Jefferson Emmons and Patty Marie Davlin)." All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 05:41, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
I've added the mention of Dianna's birth last name being "Smith", though those links don't provide much of their ethnic origins. XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 05:48, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 March 2014

Please change the relatives to Demi Lovato and add Dallas Lovato ! Maelys Lovatic (talk) 12:35, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. "Please change X" is not acceptable and will be rejected; the request must be of the form "please change X to Y". — {{U|Technical 13}} (t • e • c) 13:02, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

WikiProject

I have proposed a WikiProject to be created for Demi, would anybody here support it? XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 07:45, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 June 2014

Jmgbegin (talk) 12:59, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Want to change the photo

 Not done - you would need to obtain a fully copyright free photo (not one you found on the internet, but one you took yourself) and upload it to Wikimedia Commons, before it can be added. - Arjayay (talk) 13:07, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 August 2014

This Request Needs to be seriously addressed. If you need permission then Ask God.

Please Delete the Following

" She has also become an advocate for the LGBT community. In 2014 she was announced as the Grand Marshal for LA PRIDE week, and that same year she became the face for HRC's America's for Marriage Equality Campaign."

Also Delete everything related to Lesbian's And Gay's.

The Request is due to Time Travel.

Thank You


Xekexo (talk) 21:22, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

Why should it be removed? Snuggums (talk / edits) 21:35, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

Associated Acts

In case the criteria hadn't been made specific enough, an associated act can be any of the following:

  • A frequent collaborator (not counting songwriters or producers) and/or have collaborated at least several times. Examples include Pitbull and Jennifer Lopez.
  • A group or band one was part of. Examples include Jim Morrison from The Doors.
  • Someone with which one has made a collaborative album. Examples include Jay-Z and Kanye West.

With this being said, only the Jonas Brothers would really constitute an associated act for Demi. Hope this helps. Snuggums (talk / edits) 05:05, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 October 2014

hi , can i edit a little in this page cause I'm her fans and a lovatic a there is loads of things that you didn't include in this paragraph , so please can i edit .. thank you . Hebaammar (talk) 13:33, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

 Not done This is not the right page to request additional user rights.
If you want to suggest a change, please request this in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ".
Please also cite reliable sources to back up your request. - Arjayay (talk) 13:44, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 November 2014

This article states that Demi Lovato dated Miley Cyrus' "half-older brother". I think that it ought to read "older half-brother". 121.44.141.162 (talk) 13:27, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

Hi 121.44.141.162, thanks for your suggestion. I've fixed the problem. Best. Acalamari 13:34, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 December 2014

Demi World Tour is going to be extendend to 2015 Scatolao (talk) 18:49, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

 Not done please provide a reliable source supporting this. Snuggums (talk / edits) 18:53, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 December 2014

Demi has 1 Full Sister named Dallas Lovato and another half sister not listed named Amber Lovato

Cite error: A <ref> tag is missing the closing </ref> (see the help page).http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20679685,00.html</ref>

Xoxoddlovato (talk) 02:09, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

They are both already included. Snuggums (talk / edits) 02:12, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. — {{U|Technical 13}} (e • t • c) 06:09, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
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