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YouTube with Selena Gomez

Should we post it? It IS officially her. =) Emily (talk) 23:34, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

No, YouTube links is not in accordance with WP:EL and would be removed. Wildhartlivie (talk) 07:01, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Post it. It's the truth. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.95.139.248 (talk) 14:52, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Unfortunately no YouTube. I know what IP said (below) but I'm pretty sure YouTUbe links are blocked. For instance, try to add one.Queenmileypop (talk) 07:34, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

I don't agree with this. The wikipedia guildlines do not impose an outright blanket ban on youtube content. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.243.47.79 (talk) 02:16, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

It's the truth. 72.95.139.248 (talk) 18:52, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Picture

Would anyone be so kindly to donate a picture of Demi Lovato or upload one? Thanks, calliegal_x (talk) 17:31, 27 March 2008 (UTC)Calliegal since pictures are the topic, i feel we need a better pic of Demi you cannot see her face very well-Mini no ipod (talk) 03:20, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Can you guys change the picture of Demi,she looks way different compared to now. —Preceding unsigned comment added by CrystalicIsMe (talk • contribs) 07:42 June 23, 2009 (UTC)

We can't change the picture, because no other free pictures can be found. Frehley 07:53, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Proposed merge - Demi Lovato discography

Any objections? BradV 16:36, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

I think it's ridiculous not having Lovato's discography on her biography. So just put it back ... --Don-dk (talk) 10:39, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

I'd say do it! It is rediculous that she has a seperate discography page, while she doesn not even have one album out, let alone some real charting singles. If her own page was so full of info, okay, but it's not, so this should be merged asap! -- Luigi-ish (talk) 21:43, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

I agree with the merge, she doesn't have an official singles album out so she doesn't need a Discography page. Edgehead5150 (talk) 13:03, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Merge it, already. She's not that important that she warrants two separate articles. Beemer69 ^chitchat 15:20, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Merge. --SkyWalker (talk) 14:52, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

I believe the discography is incorrect... the song "Get Caught," which Demi performs on tour, is not in the list, and there is no source listed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.197.9.47 (talk) 07:09, 8 August 2008 (UTC) MERGE IT ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Mini no ipod (talk) 13:34, 10 August 2008 (UTC))

• Merge - ridiculous to have a separate article at this point. Discog pages are spun off from the main article once it becomes long and the artist has a real career and history. Not the case here. - eo (talk) 15:16, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
• Merge for previous reasons, since she's pretty much just getting started in this field. WAVY 10 Fan (talk) 16:34, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
• MERGE Why have a seperate article for her discography? Just merge it with her biography. It only makes sense.Cssiitcic (talk) 15:51, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
• Merge. At this stage in her career, it doesn't make sense to have more than one article. Don't Forget should just be merged here, and the discography article can completely go away.
  Kww (talk) 15:55, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
• Don't merge: Upcoming solo album announced Don't Forget and its first single "Get Back". --danBLOO (talk) 17:35, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
• Votes to merge outweigh "don't merge" votes. I am merging the pages.Cssiitcic (talk) 18:58, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
• Merge. Someone said seven months ago that the pages would be merged, and they are still seperate, why is this? There is no need for Demetria Lovato discography page. She does not have enough information for her own discography page so she may as well put it with the rest.

What To Put In

ok hi I'm mini no ipod, and i think we should say in her Personal Life section that she is Chirstian, has a YouTube show with BFF Selena Gomez called the Demi Lovato and Selena Gomez Show, and she confirmed with M Magazine that she is NOT dating Joe Jonas of the Jonas Brothers, or anybody else. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mini no ipod (talk • contribs) 16:41, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

I think the only thing that we can confirm is her YouTube show with Selena Gomez. WAVY 10 Fan (talk) 18:20, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Picture of her

That picture of her is kind of scary. Anyone got a better one? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.236.57.18 (talk) 16:51, 28 July 2008 (UTC) ok that is fine then, but i did read it in the magazine myself, also i read that there might be a kiss in Camp Rock 2.(Mini no ipod (talk) 20:11, 30 July 2008 (UTC)) A new single from Demi Lovato was put on iTunes on August 12 called "[Get Back]" it is number 7 on its ratings. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.141.136.178 (talk) 16:55, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

These days free pictures can be hard to find (I'm the one who found the current image) and I can tell you it isn't easy finding free pictures, but if you've got one then just put it up on the article. --Kanonkas :  Talk  13:10, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

she isn't scary! 71.108.172.26 (talk) 22:58, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

I think there should be a different Demetria picture because the current one is scary, as aforementioned, but it is also really old because Demetria now has an orange tan and dark hair. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.71.57.19 (talk) 17:11, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Demo

The CD Demo does not exist and should be removed from her discography. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.251.86.195 (talk) 21:15, 15 August 2008 (UTC) of course you can find a better one just look on google! —Preceding unsigned comment added by XoVSgirlxo (talk • contribs) 22:59, 5 September 2008 (UTC) It does exist her songs: shadow,stronger, open, and many others are on that cd. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.60.77.248 (talk) 01:31, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Interview

Kingcomp (talk) 07:37, 18 September 2008 (UTC) Somebody who has the right to edit this page, please consider to include Demi Lovato' exclusive interview at AceShowbiz http://www.aceshowbiz.***/news/view/00018400.html (Sep 18, 2008) Please change *** with 'com'. Thank You.

This site is on the spam blacklist, so it shouldn't be added.Kww (talk) 11:49, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Please check : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:Spam-whitelist/Archives/2007/12 about AceShowbiz.(Kingcomp (talk) 18:16, 25 September 2008 (UTC))

That's over a year old. You've been blacklisted since then. It still isn't possible to save an article with a link to that site.Kww (talk) 18:31, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

(Kingcomp (talk) 05:42, 30 September 2008 (UTC)) Not over a year, just 9 months and I can't find AceShowbiz on the list http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:Spam-blacklist/log May I know which page to check for latest aceshowbiz blacklist ? I mean after Dec 2007, because I can't find any proof that aceshowbiz.com is being blacklisted right now.

• Well it doesn't matter since it isn't a reliable source nor an appropriate external link. Nabudis Shadow (talk) 07:24, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
• Proof is easy ... try to put your whole website name in anywhere (even here on the talkpage) and try to save the page. The save isn't allowed until you do things like aceshowbiz dot com.Kww (talk) 16:32, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

That is the question, how come a website which already in whitelist , is considered blacklist, by the system ? Kingcomp (talk) 16:56, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

The whitelist request only allowed your site to be referenced in Jonas Brothers. No other place in Wikipedia can reference it. That's what a whitelist does: it allows an individual article to reference an individual blacklisted site. Aceshowbiz.com is listed on the [Spam blacklist]. Added in August, 2006. You've been blacklisted across every Wikipedia version in every language.—Kww (talk) 17:21, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

(Kingcomp (talk) 16:05, 30 September 2008 (UTC)) So you believe that Demi Lovato' exclusive interview at AceShowbiz is a fake ? What is different between 'sites that is no longer blacklisted' and 'site that was blacklisted' ? How easy for a user determine a website as 'unreliable source' ?

You want to wander over to WP:RS and WP:RSN to discuss reliability issues. I won't say that you are unreliable per se, although having been placed on the spam blacklist certainly undermines any credibility you might have. What I can say is that I don't see any new information in that article, so there isn't any particular reason to link to it. One other note: please put your signature at the end like everyone else ... it's really confusing to edit this thread with your signature in a different place.Kww (talk) 16:32, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Her middle name

her middle name is spelled divonne —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.184.168.242 (talk) 15:06, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Misplaced ref

Add it to a section/paragraph where it is suitable. Thanks. –Howard the Duck 13:51, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

This was apparently just an editing error. The reference is in place, citing the existence of "The Princess Diaries". It showed up twice in the same edit: once as the first line in the article, and once in the correct place.—Kww(talk) 19:09, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

National Anthem Performance

If Demi's performance of the National Anthem during the Cowboys-Seahawks game Thursday proves notable enough to merit inclusion in Wikipedia, it should go [this article]. WAVY 10 Fan (talk) 18:05, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Categories

Please do not add "parent" categories. For example: all "Hispanic American actors" are automatically included in "Hispanic Americans", "American actors" and "Hispanic actors", so only the first category is needed. Thanks. - SummerPhD (talk) 17:16, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Merge

Strong Merge Okay. The article La La Land(Demi Lovato song) is too short to be by itself can't we merge it into this one? If no comment is made in 3 days, I will merge it by myself.Cssiitcic (talk) 20:17, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

You didn't have to ask about the merge, next time just be bold and redirect the article. Edgehead5150 07:12, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Personal Life Thingy

ok seriously someone needs to talk down this sections part where she said she likes Dimu Borgir. its clear thats she doesnt actually like them because they are a satanic black metal band and Demi is clearly Christian. She likes bands like Paramore not this satanic crap. Can someone please change it because it wont let me for some reason.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.30.24.146 (talk • contribs) 04:58, 16 December 2008

The reason you can't edit it is the page is protected: unregistered users cannot edit the page. Why? Well, we were getting too many fan-ish edits. In other words, too many people were editing to add what they thought was true, rather than what reliable sources said was true.

Case in point: You may think Lovato wouldn't like Dimu Borgir, but a reliable source (cited in the article) says she does. - SummerPhD (talk) 20:44, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Wizards of Waverly Place

What happened to the information regarding Demi's involvement in Wizards of Waverly Place:The Movie? Is it because this information was provided by unsourced content? --Geekboy6 (talk) 03:22, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

From edit history removed by Edgehead5150 (talk · contribs) with comment "not a reliable source" --NrDg 15:33, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

As to why it was removed I suggest communicating with Edgehead5150 and asking him why he considers OceanUp not a reliable source. I personally don't consider it generally reliable as it is basically a gossip website that propagates rumors and does not have a reputation for fact checking. In this case the primary source of information used by OceanUp was from a blog posting. Blogs are generally not considered reliable sources but this one is usually pretty accurate and has been allowed to stay as a reference in Selena Gomez and Wizards of Waverly Place for info on the movie. It would be better overall, though, to wait for a Disney press release or an article in some major news source like Variety. --NrDg 21:39, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Religious or Atheist?

The category "American Christians" is no longer in the categories section below the page, which means that Demi may not be Christian, is of another faith or is an atheist.

Did she ever say that she was ever a Christian, of another faith or an atheist?

Ожиданиесчастья (talk) 08:21, 27 December 2008 (UTC)'

There is not any reliably sourced, verifiable information in the article for a classification to be made. See WP:BLP#Categories for the reason I removed this category. Lack of information one way or the other implies ONLY lack of information. It does not imply anything else. If someone wants to categorize this, find a verifiable reliable source that meets the requirements of WP:BLP and shows explicitly (that means not by implication of other info) in the article that

• Lovato publicly self-identifies with the belief in question;
• Lovato's beliefs are relevant to the her notable activities or public life, according to reliable published sources.

--NrDg 15:33, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Well, she's not an athiest because in the 'Thanks' of Don't Forget, she thanked God because "he's awesome" (her exact words). ~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by MusicBoi94 (talk • contribs) 22:42, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Tony Lovato relation?

Is she related to Tony Lovato of Mest? Or do they just share the same last name? Any ideas? --67.34.188.252 (talk) 15:51, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

I don't have any source to confirm this, but I don't think they're related as in "family". --Kanonkas :  Talk  16:09, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Camp Rock friends

"She is also good friends with the Jonas Brothers, Meaghan Jette Martin, and Alyson Stoner." Is that sentence really necessary? I mean she probably did share a friendship to her castmates from Camp Rock, but where is the source that says that she's good friends with all of them? For all we know, they could just be acquaintances. Might as well put on Selena Gomez's channel that she's good friends with David Henrie and Jennifer Stone as well. I'm not doubting the sentence. I just want to know its source. --Geekboy6 (talk) 07:46, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

I agree. Every actor in existence is ALWAYS good friends with the people they work with. This is, in opinion, not notable as it is too common, expected and always so commonly stated (why "dog bites man" is not news). Her real long term, non situational friend IS Selena Gomez and that is well referenced. The others are just meaningless professional "friends". --NrDg 15:36, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Ethnicity

What ethnicity is Demi Lovato? This article used to say that she's of Hispanic, Italian, and Irish decent. Is she Hispanic or is she just white? --Geekboy6 (talk) 17:35, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

It was removed because the reference used was to an old copy of this article extracted by a gossip site. If ethnicity matters to her, find a reference in a reliable source that reports what she says it is. Gossip sites, blogs, fansites etc. don't count as reliable sources. --NrDg 18:07, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Wizard's of Waverly Place - the Movie

Demi is NOT goinf to be in the WOWP movie! She said it in a J-14 interview - Feb. 2009 issue. So why is someone adding it all the time? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.205.152.127 (talk) 23:38, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Miley Cyrus/Demi Lovato bitch fight

I heard Ryan Seacrest on American Top 40 talke about how Miley Cyrus was a bit of a bitch to Demi Lovato and was wondering whether wikipedia includes news etc cuz Im a bit new to it all!!Anyway Im not sure how to include an audio as bibliography but it is here (http://www.miley5.net/podcasts/audio/miley5_celebrity_scoop_090105.mp3). Mileyfan0101 (talk) 07:49, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

No, we shouldn't include such material.—Kww(talk) 12:11, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Dating

I've read on many websites that she and Alex DeLeon, Lead Vocalist for The Cab are dating. I think this should be on the personal Life section. If not, then at least that they are very good friends. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Qwertluis (talk • contribs) 23:42, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

We generally don't put gossip or trivial information in articles about people - that is what fan sites are for. For a good reference read WP:BLP for an overview of what bio articles should contain. If this information is covered by sources that meet WP:RS reliable source requirements and we can verify that what is in the article is what the source stated then it might be a good addition to the article. Find a url to a web location that is not a gossip site, a fan site or a blog. A good source will have some statement from one of the principals. Conjectures based on seeing them at the same place at the same time doesn't prove anything. --NrDg 23:53, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

I just added it with a reference of him being inteviewed about it. -Qwertluis

It appears that a couple of editors don't want this in the article. Reason is that a declaration of friendship is by the other person and has not been confirmed by Lovato. This is basically trivia anyway as this friendship doesn't really mean anything as it doesn't effect her in any notable way. --NrDg 02:07, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

what about trace cyrus? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Coolgrl1243 (talk • contribs) 01:37, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

DEMI IS OFFICIALLY DATING JOE JONAS!!! SHE HAS CONFIRMED IT ON A RADIO SHOW! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.238.104.121 (talk) 08:46, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Added. Thanks for providing a reliable source! liquidluck✽talk 18:32, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

American Rock Pianists

Can we place Demi under this category? She does indeed play piano, and her music is rock influenced. --Geekboy6 (talk) 03:20, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Lots of people play the piano - it is a fairly common skill widely taught. Not many are good enough to make a living from it. Does she perform her music as a pianist like Billy Joel or Elton John? If not, this is just personal bio trivia unrelated to anything she is notable for. Adding her to the category is a bit of an insult to those that really belong in it. --NrDg 03:53, 28 January 2009 (UTC)