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Social Spirit[edit]

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An essay full of WP:OR presenting a novel in non-encyclopedic and often unclear language. The sources don't validate "social spirit" as a unique concept in philosophy; instead, this essay appears to represent the author's own views. Given a lack of BEFORE references to "social spirit" in the context of this article I can't figure out a way to improve this that would allow it to stay. Dclemens1971 (talk) 15:59, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - the cited sources in the article that have "social spirit" in the title (i.e. Shablin, Smirnov, and Lazarev) clearly indicate that this meets WP:GNG as a notable topic. Probably it needs to be renamed "Social spirit" and any WP:OR/WP:SYNTH should be removed, but WP:AFDISNOTCLEANUP. Psychastes (talk) 01:34, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This article is not an essay because it is written based on reliable sources. Here we should also mention the “Handwörterbuch der Soziologie”, compiled by Götz Briefs, in 1931. The concept of “social spirit” was presented in that dictionary as known one. This also justifies the mention of him on Wikipedia, even from the point of view of the history of sociology. There were other works in German in the twentieth century, but due to the Second World War, research in this direction was complicated. This article appears to be an essay because there are no sources on this topic in English. But in general in science, this concept has its place. Russian articles contain abstracts about social spirit in English.Никитааа (talk) 06:16, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ceres, Washington[edit]

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A belated prod undeletion: Ceres is a rail station with a general store, the post office was cabinet in the general store [3]. It's also a hill nearby. The area is known as Ceres Hill, so likely needs a move if not deleted.

Original reasoning:Not a notable location. All of the sources mentioned are either trivial mentions or are insufficient for notability (GNIS; Jim Forte). Only reference 6 approaches reliability, and it plainly states that Ceres was just a road-rail crossing with a general store, and the post office was a "pigeon cabinet" in the corner of the store. Satellite images reveal the store and railroad are both gone now, with a single farmhouse nearby. Non-notable; fails WP:GEOLAND. (proposed by WeirdNAnnoyed) James.folsom (talk) 22:52, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete (as the PRODder) for reasons given above. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 02:22, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as per nomination. Non-notable community. TH1980 (talk) 00:17, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep but rewrite/reclassify as a former community. A long read is available at the Talk:Ceres, Washington page with details in early history of Ceres. I agree that such a community no longer exists, but it did from the late 1890s and with some strength into the late 1930s. Small, rural communities are rarely given due historical attention, but thanks to local reporting, even if in snippets, we can see the Ceres community that once existed. If via consensus we keep the article, I volunteer to rewrite and expand the page.Shortiefourten (talk) 19:35, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: The sources compiled by Shortiefourten on the article talk page shows this is a recognized populated place sufficient to be kept. The Origin of Washington Geographic Names sources also calls it a "town", though I understand that to be in the American way that rural areas gathered community identities.--Milowenthasspoken 18:40, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Elizabeth Salmón[edit]

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This subject fails WP:GNG because she enjoys in-depth coverage mainly by primary sources (the UN -- I also found university coverage of her as its associate but did not add it). In-depth coverage by multiple reliable sources appears not to exist. Separately, she remains far from passing special criteria at WP:ACADEMIC or WP:POLITICIAN as well. JFHJr () 22:47, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep Pretty sure her position would meet the requirements of WP:POLITICIAN, but regardless, there's been coverage of her since the appointment of both her and her activities (and North Korea being angry at her findings from her work). For example:
I think there's enough here to meet the WP:GNG. SilverserenC 23:18, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep: The UN special rapporteur post seems to satisfay WP:ACADEMIC #7: having an impact outside academia in her academic capacity, in this case being appointed by the UN as a legal expert on human rights. PamD 07:38, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: I disagree that she meets NPOL, but being a UN rapporteur and having regular media coverage meets NACADEMIC #7. voorts (talk/contributions) 15:26, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: Likely passes GNG with the JoonAng and other newspaper articles listed above. I'm unsure about satisfying academic notability, but there is ample coverage in RS for general notability. Oaktree b (talk) 13:34, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: Has anyone searched in Spanish for Spanish sources. They wouldnt come up if looking in English. MaskedSinger (talk) 07:46, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I have not. I would expect searching in Korean and whatever the Hangul transliteration of her name is would also be fruitful. SilverserenC 20:29, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of Apache–MySQL–PHP packages[edit]

List of Apache–MySQL–PHP packages (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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There was an AfD on this previously that determined to keep this article on the basis that AfD is not a place to resolve sourcing concerns. I think there are sourcing concerns with respect to notablity, which is a valid reason to bring an AfD. I can't find any reliable article that actually makes comparisons between different AMP stacks. The two sources in the article are about individual stacks, and don't make any comparisons between different stacks. HyperAccelerated (talk) 23:40, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Michael Brink[edit]

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Rugby BLP that fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. I am unable to find anything approaching WP:SIGCOV. JTtheOG (talk) 22:42, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kurt Haupt[edit]

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Rugby BLP that fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. I am unable to find anything approaching WP:SIGCOV. JTtheOG (talk) 22:39, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kamales Lardi[edit]

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Questionable notability and clearly WP:PROMO Amigao (talk) 22:37, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. plicit 03:46, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

PabloDraw[edit]

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I don't think this passes WP: N. Previous AfDs didn't reach a consensus, but not a single one of the Keep votes in any of those AfDs actually cites any notability guidelines. HyperAccelerated (talk) 21:41, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete: I don't find coverage for this software package, so not meeting requirements. The other AfD votes don't seen to hold much weight with current guidelines, regardless, there isn't enough coverage to keep this. Oaktree b (talk) 13:35, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Alex Anmahian[edit]

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Fails WP:BIO, puff piece on a WP:ROTM architect doing his job. Contains significant paid mainspace contributions by an employee. WP:NOTRESUME applies. The whole slew of awards is a form of WP:BOMBARD. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 22:22, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete: I fully agree with @Timtrent's deletion nomination. Will only add that the WP:PAID edits were undisclosed until very recently.
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  • Delete: I agree with @Timtrent's deletion nomination.
  • Delete: More coverage found about the company than this person. A few name drops in articles, rest are PR items I find. Very PROMO. Not meeting GNG. Oaktree b (talk) 13:38, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Debian Free Software Guidelines[edit]

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Non-notable precursor of The Open Source Definition. I was barely able to scrape up enough independent analysis to create a viable article about the OSD and the related Open Definition. There is much less available on the Debian definition.

The last AfD was in 2007 and notability was not considered.

Furthermore, I cannot support this article's existence per WP:NOPAGE because the Debian definition, slightly modified, was adopted as the OSD and the texts are very similar[4][5]. (t · c) buidhe 22:19, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A Google Books search seems to produce a couple hundred mentions. Are these all cursory? --Joy (talk) 07:07, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Pretty much all I found was quotes of the definition and mentions—no significant coverage differentiating it from the OSD. (t · c) buidhe 07:11, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
OK, let's give people some time then to try to find better coverage. If it can't be found, and if the mass of primary and cursory references isn't deemed worthy of a standalone article, then there's the matter of where to redirect - Debian Social Contract or even a section inside Debian may also be good destinations. --Joy (talk) 10:43, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of explorations[edit]

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Appears to be a WP:INDISCRIMINATE list without clear inclusion criteria. It states that it has the most "important" explorations without referencing who calls them important besides the article creator. Even if notable, it would fall under WP:TNT and is invalid as a navigational list as it does not link to articles specifically about those explorations. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ () 21:48, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ah so. That should link to Complex society#States then, I guess? --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 19:10, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, edit, and update. A 2001 long-term article, the page lists the first sponsored human expeditions of various locals. The topic is notable, links to various expeditionary pages, and groups these expeditions on one page. The criteria needs to be worded differently, but that's a minor point in the overall scope of the page. Randy Kryn (talk) 09:35, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    See WP:ARTICLEAGE. When it was written is not proof it should be kept. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ () 18:50, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Essays have some who agree and others who disagree. Early Wikipedia articles which have stood the test of 23 years of time should receive more leeway and correction. This one has a very good premise which can be refined and expanded. Randy Kryn (talk) 22:40, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Well, on the one hand, this is a very bare-bones list, and seems to have been so for quite a while. There's no real context, and it isn't exactly the best-formatted list ever. That said, I do think that the idea behind it is notable enough. I personally think that it should be rewritten as prose and moved to History of human exploration, but it could also be rewritten as prose and merged with History of human migration (though they are substantially different, especially when it comes to things like oceans or planets). I don't think keeping it as a list is a good idea, even though List of explorers is a good, closely related list, as explorations really should have some explanation and context to them, whereas explorers don't really need that. Ships & Space(Edits) 00:32, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I would agree with Ships&Space. Overhauling should be done, not deletion. Lorstaking (talk) 09:25, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I am not opposed to a rewrite as a prose article. But in the 23 years the article has been around, nothing has been done to fix the problem. I am not sure why you believe it will be fixed in another 23 years. A deletion may encourage a new article to be created that is actually notable. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ () 07:01, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep Common sense, just list any explorations that have their own articles or have articles for the explorers who are notable for making them. Dream Focus 07:54, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2024 World Aquatics Artistic Swimming World Cup[edit]

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This page has no references, and so fails both verifiability and general notability. It has been moved to draft space twice, by User:Hey man im josh and User:Wikishovel, and moved back to article space twice by the originator with no apparent improvement. Robert McClenon (talk) 22:20, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Anyone can add references and links. You don't have to draft it for that. In addition, you can see what it is all about.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Hshezsvsbebe (talkcontribs)
  • Comment I was going to suggest draftifying, as it's an international event sponsored by an international governing body, but I can't find any significant coverage of the event yet in RS, even though we're on the second day of a 3-day event. A redirect to World Aquatics is another possibility. Maybe if subsequent events get better coverage, this could be merged later into a single article World Aquatics Artistic Swimming World Cup. This is the second year that this tournament was held, and according to the World Aquatics article, it replaces the World Series that was held 2017–2022 [6]. Wikishovel (talk) 06:44, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete per nomination, still not seeing significant coverage online in independent sources following the event. Wikishovel (talk) 23:27, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Martin Ferreira[edit]

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I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, a South African rugby union player, to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. JTtheOG (talk) 21:37, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ibrahim Babangida (footballer)[edit]

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I've been unable to find if this Nigerian footballer who recently died in a car crash passes WP:SPORTCRIT and WP:GNG. Duke of New Gwynedd (talk | contrib.) 10:08, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

He won the 1993 FIFA U-17 World Championship. Don't delete the article. 186.176.235.73 (talk) 11:08, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That has no relevance to SPORTCRIT or GNG Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 11:38, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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  • An ATD is to merge/redirect to Tijani Babangida where he is currently mentioned, not least since Tijani was in the same car crash. Another alternative to deletion would of course be to find sigcov in the Netherlands. Geschichte (talk) 14:37, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    He play at the Eredivisie and won the Nigerian Premier League in 1992. 201.206.42.68 (talk) 01:55, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - I think there's enough coverage of his death, including pieces like this, which show notability. He had 50+ games in the Dutch professional leagues, the issue is searching is skewed to just reports of his death. GiantSnowman 12:51, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep - Per GiantSnowman. Player with sources and pro career including 50+ appearances in fully pro Dutch league and definitly has more offline sources. Article needs improvement, not deletion. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 01:59, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You Call This Music?! Volume 2[edit]

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Non-notable compilation album that doesn't meet WP:GNG or WP:NALBUM. The only review I could find is the OC Weekly one linked, no other reviews or WP:SIGCOV found. No clear redirect target as the record label was deleted for being non-notable. Last AfD (in 2006) closed as no consensus. StreetcarEnjoyer (talk) 20:45, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nick Winton[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:NPERSON. Lack of quality independent WP:SIGCOV, some cited awards don't seem to check out. Previously PRODded, no indication that the subject is notable or outstanding in their field. Content is WP:NOTRESUME. Likely WP:COI, possibly undisclosed WP:PAID, the creator appears to work only on topic closely related to the commercial entity that the subject has an interest in. Melmann 20:41, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

James Fishback[edit]

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WP:BIO, provided reason why he was notable (head of macro) is not substantiated by sources and was publicly disputed by previous employer. Fails WP:GNG, only secondary source is a few quotes in Fox News, all of the others are blogs/podcasts/primary sources Reflord (talk) 19:28, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Jack Raines,"Schrödinger's head of macro". sherwood.news. Retrieved 21 May 2024.
  2. ^ "SGreenlight Capital's clash with an ex-employee has captivated the hedge-fund world". fnlondon.com. Retrieved 21 May 2024.
  3. ^ Bradley Saacks,"David Einhorn was once the young thorn in the side of executives. Now he's dealing with his own". businessinsider.com. 17 May 2024. Retrieved 21 May 2024.
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The result was procedural close‎ as the AfD was started by a now-blocked sock. Number 57 22:32, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

DarwinHealth[edit]

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It doesn't appear to be a notable company. I searched for sources using all alternatives: "DarwinHealth" but couldn't find anything that satisfies WP:CORPDEPTH.

Sure there are mentions of DarwinHealth in articles about targeted medicine but this article isn't based on those mentions it's fluffed up from the organization's first-hand research and press releases because there are no independent peer reviews of this company's work yet. One of the sources that looks like it might support notability, the WSJ article is, upon closer inspection an essay written by none other than the company's CEO then we have a load more primary sources like this listings site https://www.nature.com/nature-index/institution-outputs/united-states-of-america-usa/darwinhealth/59f35838b615d2287807e4cd a press release in PharmaBiz https://www.pharmabiz.com/PrintArticle.aspx?aid=138344&sid=2 and the mother of all primary, promotional, PR puffery the organization's about us page https://darwinhealth.com/about/ this article fails WP:NCORP fails WP:CORPDEPTH fails WP:N and should be deleted. Dafydd y Corach (talk) 17:50, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. (non-admin closure) Vanderwaalforces (talk) 08:03, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Satish Pakrashi[edit]

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Contested WP:CSD. Fails WP:NPOL and WP:GNG. Being a "veteran leader" of a party doesn't inherently makes one notable. Sources found both here and WP:BEFORE can not establish GNG either. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 17:48, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Comment: A quick Google Book search shows plenty of books mentioning him. I am not confident about this AfD. GrabUp - Talk 08:21, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Grabup Did you find significant coverage or passing mentions? GNG isn’t established by merely passing mentions. It has to be SIGCOV or coverage to an extent. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 09:27, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - "Satish Pakrashi and Niranjan Sen of Barisal ( this latter had his organization in Murshidabad ) were prominent among the leaders of the Anushilan who joined the Revolt Group . [...] He met prominent revolutionaries such as Satish Pakrashi..." [7], "... Satish Pakrashi of Anusilan group were placed in charge of the Dacca cantonment." [8], "... Satish Pakrashi , Niranjan Sengupta and Ramesh Biswas , top leaders of the Anushilan revolt group and of Barisal group , were arrested by the police in a house in Mechua Bazaar , Calcutta , and subsequently more arrests were made ..." [9], etc, there are tons of books mentioning or discussing his role in the struggle for Indian independence. Moreover, he was a member of the West Bengal Legislative Council for six years [10], so easily passes WP:NPOL. --Soman (talk) 01:45, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Soman Can you add that last part to the article? Vanderwaalforces (talk) 06:14, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Vanderwaalforces: Are you convinced that he meets WP:NPOL? 2409:40E1:15:5561:F1ED:6FC2:CFDA:F32D (talk) 07:32, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I obviously do, this wasn't the case when I nominated it because it wasn't stated inially that he was a member of the legislative council, which makes him pass WP:NPOL. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 08:00, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Per Soman's research demonstrating that he was a member of the West Bengal Legislative Council (and thus passes WP:NPOL). That fact should be added to the article. --Worldbruce (talk) 05:49, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: As I previously mentioned, I was not confident about this AfD. I agree with Soman's research. He was a member of the West Bengal Legislative Council for six years, so he meets WP:NPOL. GrabUp - Talk 06:15, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: I'd keep this now based on Soman and Grabup's clear statement of him being in the legislative council. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 08:02, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Tango Balekile[edit]

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I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, a South African rugby union player, to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. The most I found were a handful of sentences here. JTtheOG (talk) 17:36, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep There's this, this and this found in a simple search. Enough for a GNG pass I think. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 09:20, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The first two sources are ok, but are from the same day and about the same topic, while the third source has 3-ish IRS sentences and so is pretty far from being the sustained SIGCOV expected for N. Can you find more sources? JoelleJay (talk) 16:17, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mehboob Aapke Qadmon Main[edit]

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I couldn't find sign/in-depth coverage, such as reviews. All I could find is some ROTM coverage and announcements/press release based coverage like this and this, and pieces by freelancers in RS like this all of which isn't sufficient to establish GNG. —Saqib (talk I contribs) 15:51, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pinky Ka Dulha[edit]

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I couldn't find sign/in-depth coverage, such as reviews. All I could find is some ROTM coverage like this and this which isn't sufficient to establish GNG. —Saqib (talk I contribs) 15:45, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Altair4 Multimedia[edit]

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It doesn't appear to be a notable company. I searched for sources using all alternatives: "Altair4 Multimedia," "Altair 4 Multimedia," and "Altair Multimedia," but couldn't find anything that satisfies WP:CORPDEPTH. GSS💬 15:45, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Zurab Gurielidze[edit]

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Can't find any passable source for WP:ANYBIO. Subject also doesn't pass WP:NPROF inherently. It's also lacking in terms of WP:GNG. Also, can't find good figures in directories like Google Scholar. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 15:44, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Asset revesting[edit]

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This buzzword soup appears to be sourced entirely to the book that invented the term (WP:NOTNEO) and the blog posts and press releases of the author promoting it (WP:SPIP, WP:NOTPROMO). I am unable to find any reliable sources using the term, much less anything meeting the other three criteria. I'm not quite sure the tone is G11, so here we are. Alpha3031 (tc) 15:42, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete While there seems to be room for there to be an article on the concept of active investing & reversting, I'm not sure this exact phrase meets notability, and there are numerous problems as above. Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 03:11, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Robert P. Watson[edit]

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The only real claim to fame in the article is a "former candidate for the United States House of Representatives" and an academic. The information for the candidate for the House of Representatives specifically states he was considering running and formed an exploratory committee. This does not meet the requirements for notability. The article was created in 2005 so there has been plenty of opportunities to add reliable sourced content if it existed, but from what I can see it doesn't exist. This individual does not meet the requirements for notability to have a stand alone Wikipedia article. VVikingTalkEdits 15:26, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Comment Academic notability in the subject's field would probably be established via reviews of his books. Checking JSTOR finds at least one for The Ghost Ship of Brooklyn [11], Affairs of State [12], George Washington's Final Battle [13][14], The Presidents' Wives [15][16], The Nazi Titanic [17], and America's First Crisis [18]. So, there may be a WP:PROF/WP:AUTHOR pass here. XOR'easter (talk) 17:39, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per WP:AUTHOR and the many published reviews I found for his many books. He also has a distinguished professorship but the case for WP:PROF#C5 hinges on whether one counts Lynn University as "a major institution of higher education and research". He's not notable as a politician but that's irrelevant; he's also not notable as an astronomical body nor as a species of insect. —David Eppstein (talk) 06:54, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • PS I removed the political campaign from the article altogether, refocusing it on his academic career, as I could not find good enough sourcing. The best I found was this dubiously-reliable interview (also potentially WP:CIRCULAR) which mentions the campaign without any specifics in response to which Watson states "I plead temporary insanity." I don't think that's good enough. —David Eppstein (talk) 18:55, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep as WP:AUTHOR is met. XOR'easter (talk) 18:12, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Almost Friday Media[edit]

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Subject fails to meet WP:GNG and WP:NCORP. The only reference I can find that is significant coverage in an independent, reliable, secondary source is this (note 3, and it's an edge case for notability since it seems to come from VinePair's WP:TRADES coverage.). All other sources in this article, as well as WP:BEFORE sources offering significant coverage, are press releases or sponsored content once you click through, even the Yahoo Finance pieces. Other references on this page are to LinkedIn, the subject's own website or other primary/user-generated sources. One item of significant coverage in an independent, secondary, reliable source is not enough; we need multiple. Dclemens1971 (talk) 15:07, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Eissporthalle Iserlohn[edit]

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No refs on the page for many years. Nothing to add from the article on de.wiki. not seeing much else which could be considered against the inclusion criteria JMWt (talk) 14:57, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wael William Diab[edit]

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BLP with no evidence of notability. Existing references are to:

  • 1/3/7: primary source bios
  • 2: a list of WP:PATENTS, which does not contribute to notability.
  • 4: a press release
  • 5/8/9: WP:TRIVIALMENTIONS in non-independent sources
  • 6: self-authored material

WP:BEFORE search does not turn up any significant coverage in reliable, secondary, independent sources. Dclemens1971 (talk) 13:59, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Zaira Meneses[edit]

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This article does not meet the notability guidelines outlined in WP:MUSICBIO or WP:GNG. It was accepted through AfC by an inexperienced user. The reference to The New York Times is merely a passing mention and is behind a paywall. Hitro talk 13:53, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Weak keep - I have added in citations and removed statements where I could not find reliable sources. I think the best coverage of her work is here.[1][2][3] As noted above, the New York Times article also includes a few sentences on her performance in New York; I think that this is an acceptable citation even if it is behind a paywall or available at ProQuest. DaffodilOcean (talk) 11:21, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    My mention of the paywall was merely for informational purposes and not to express any opposition to the source. Whether behind a paywall or freely accessible, a good reference is always valuable. Hitro talk 11:48, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Shaw, Punch (2008-05-24). "Guitarists' concert is well worth the wait". Fort Worth Star-Telegram. pp. A16. Retrieved 2024-05-17.
  2. ^ Siegel, Steve (2013-10-06). "Music is family affair for guitarist Eliot Fisk". The Morning Call. pp. [1], [2]. Retrieved 2024-05-17.
  3. ^ Small, Mark (2021). "An Afro-Cuban Legacy". Acoustic Guitar ; San Anselmo. No. 331. pp. 30–33 – via Proquest.

Helmuth Ehrhardt[edit]

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No refs on the page for many years. It is difficult to WP:V the information currently on the page or whether this is the same person that several sources name as involved directly in Nazi crimes. Currently my thought is that this page should be WP:TNT until someone can do a better job of it, but I would be interested if others can find good sources to offer against the WP:GNG JMWt (talk) 12:49, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Akish[edit]

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Notability doubtful. RadioactiveBoulevardier (talk) 10:41, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Does that comment mean I’m supposed to read the relevant guidelines and then summon a bunch of people here?
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The result was keep. Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure)Geschichte (talk) 06:54, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jupither[edit]

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Band fails WP:GNG, WP:NBAND, WP:NMUSIC. No WP:SIGCOV in reliable and independent sources. Sources cited in article are (1) primarily about the lead singer, incidentally referencing the subject; (2) AllMusic which is of disputed reliability (and in any event is a single paragraph); and (3) a primary source. WP:BEFORE search turns up nothing else to support notability. Dclemens1971 (talk) 11:33, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep, I've found significant coverage in three different newspapers [19], "EU-sponsrad turné för nytt Skellefteå-band" in Östersunds-Posten 2000-12-05 and "Det är ju Jupither! Snart känner ni igen popkometerna" in Nerikes Allehanda 1999-11-24. Meets WP:GNG and WP:NBAND. AlexandraAVX (talk) 18:55, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Coverage in any language is sufficient, and though I do not speak Swedish, I assume good faith on the part of the above searcher that the references cited qualify. Chubbles (talk) 05:53, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I cannot read the article at the link but I will also WP:AGF, withdraw my nomination and change my !vote to keep. Dclemens1971 (talk) 22:05, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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List of Philadelphia Union broadcasters[edit]

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WP:NOTTVGUIDE applies here. Just another case of WP:LISTCRUFT to appeal to the most ardent fans. Fails WP:LISTN. Additionally WP:NOTDATABASE and WP:ROUTINE. As with sources per WP:RS, these consists of WP:PRIMARY and dead links, the only decent source is an announcment for a new announcer; not helping this list to assert notability. SpacedFarmer (talk) 10:18, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of New England Revolution broadcasters[edit]

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WP:NOTTVGUIDE applies here. Just another case of WP:LISTCRUFT to appeal to the most ardent fans. Fails WP:LISTN. Additionally WP:NOTDATABASE and WP:ROUTINE. As with sources per WP:RS, only consist of a single one about the 2023 season; not helping this list to assert notability. SpacedFarmer (talk) 10:15, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sagem myX-2[edit]

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It doesn't appear to meet WP:N, made by non-notable company. Boleyn (talk) 09:34, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Provincial Institute of Teacher Education Nawabshah[edit]

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Lacks sig/in-depth coverage so, fails WP:GNG. I don't see it passing WP:ORG either. —Saqib (talk I contribs) 09:21, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Maternity And Child Health Care Institute Benazirabad[edit]

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Lacks sig/in-depth coverage so, fails WP:GNG. I don't see it passing WP:ORG either. —Saqib (talk I contribs) 09:21, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Benazir Bhutto Shaheed University of Technology and Skill Development[edit]

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Lacks sig/in-depth coverage so, fails WP:GNG. I don't see it passing WP:ORG either. —Saqib (talk I contribs) 09:21, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bilawal Stadium[edit]

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Lacks sig/in-depth coverage so, fails WP:GNG. I don't see it passing WP:ORG either. —Saqib (talk I contribs) 09:20, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Taluka Hospital Sakrand[edit]

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Lacks sig/in-depth coverage so, fails WP:GNG. I don't see it passing WP:ORG either. —Saqib (talk I contribs) 09:20, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bahria Town Nawabshah[edit]

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Lacks sig/in-depth coverage so, fails WP:GNG. I don't see it passing WP:ORG either. —Saqib (talk I contribs) 09:19, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Procedural keep - the nominator nominated 7 articles for deletion within the scope of 2 minutes, with identical deletion rationales. I strongly doubt any serious WP:BEFORE was performed here. --Soman (talk) 12:23, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Soman, So, basically, just because I nominated a bunch of pages around the same time doesn't mean I didn't do my homework beforehand. And if my reasons for nominating are similar across different AfDs, it's because the issues with those articles are pretty much the same too. Why don't you come with some coverage that meets the GNG.Saqib (talk I contribs) 12:50, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nuclear Medicine Oncology & Radiotherapy Institute Nawabshah[edit]

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Lacks sig/in-depth coverage so, fails WP:GNG. I don't see it passing WP:ORG either. —Saqib (talk I contribs) 09:19, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ed Forest[edit]

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No refs on the page for many years. I'm not seeing refs to consider but perhaps they exist in languages I can't read. JMWt (talk) 09:11, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Data-driven astronomy[edit]

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This appears to be either or both a PhD project proposal, for a MA or Part II. It describes what will be done as part of an apparently funded proposal. Since there already is a more general page on the wider topic at Astroinformatics, I see no rationale for this page. Ldm1954 (talk) 08:56, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • The article seems to be a mix of general discussion about a field of research and a description of a specific project. A merge with astroinformatics as Praemonitus suggests could be reasonable, as could a merge with Galaxy Zoo. As the article is only a couple of weeks old, I think the best approach would be to draftify and allow the author to refocus this article so it is more clearly about a specific notable subject, or to move relevant parts into existing articles. Mgp28 (talk) 22:07, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge to Astroinformatics per my original proposal. No deadline, as usual. Alpha3031 (tc) 11:24, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Akshay Bam[edit]

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Fails WP:NPOL and WP:GNG. Another case of a politician who got involved in the upcoming election and withdrew or defected to another party and stuff like that. Sources are mostly WP:ROUTINE and WP:RUNOFTHEMILL, some are unreliable. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 08:52, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

East African School of Media Studies[edit]

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No refs on the page for many years. Not seeing sources to WP:V basic details, whether it is a degree awarding institution etc. Possibly sources exist that I'm not seeing but currently per WP:V claims can be removed. JMWt (talk) 08:37, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Earthsearch Mindwarp[edit]

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No refs on the page for many years. I'm not seeing any RS to consider against the inclusion criteria - not all BBC radio dramas are notable. WP:NOTEVERYTHING WP:NOTPLOT JMWt (talk) 08:29, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Eagles Postgame Live[edit]

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No refs on the page for many years and I'm not seeing much that could be considered substantial RS to consider against the inclusion criteria. Possibly as an ATD could merge to NBC Sports Philadelphia JMWt (talk) 08:17, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Haplotype 35[edit]

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Unsourced since 2011, notability unclear. jengod (talk) 06:38, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Leverx[edit]

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Unfortunately, aside from the usual announcements and sponsored articles (excluded under WP:ORGTRIV and ORGIND respectively), I was unable to find any relevant coverage. The topic may be more suitable in a more comprehensive publication or database. Alpha3031 (tc) 14:49, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

wrong page vote, was not planned for here --Improvised but so real unicorn (talk) 15:11, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete: An article about a consultancy operating in SAP integration, etc. The given references are announcement-based; as the nominator indicates, these fall short of WP:CORPDEPTH. searches are not finding evidence of attained notability for Leverx or Emerline. AllyD (talk) 08:36, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect‎ to KUAM-TV. Liz Read! Talk! 04:18, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

KUAM-LP[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG; no sources; could merge with KUAM-TV. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 14:34, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Redirect to KUAM-TV: in some ways, this LPTV was essentially a "subchannel" before digital subchannels could even exist. Despite its major network affiliation, I doubt any coverage that might exist here would still establish any separate notability from the larger KUAM-TV. (Owing to the lack of present sourcing there is nothing to merge.) WCQuidditch 17:51, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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William Sparrow Simpson[edit]

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Nothing in the article suggests notability. TheLongTone (talk) 14:25, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

He was a fairly prolific author, and did a lot to improve the library at St Paul's Cathedral. Anna795bc (talk) 14:28, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete: Search shows the subject is not notable. With over 10,000 Anglican Priests the position is not notable. None of the books written by the subject has achieved Notability and notability is not inherited. -- Otr500 (talk) 16:17, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Owen× 20:49, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GT Racer[edit]

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Source is entirely unsourced, does not assert notability other than being broadcasted on a cable channel and thus fails WP:GNG SpacedFarmer (talk) 12:17, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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KZTC-LD[edit]

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Subject does not meet the GNG. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 10:23, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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KSDY-LD[edit]

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Subject does not meet the GNG. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 10:21, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Ali Hajizade[edit]

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@Correspondentman: What does "feels like PROD" mean? Also, this article has already survived one deletion nomination – it's a good idea to summarize the previous consensus and give at least a brief argument against it. jlwoodwa (talk) 22:01, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Jlwoodwa It seems that most of the users in the previous discussion are from Azerbaijan. A link to a website is like an advertisement. Correspondentman (talk) 06:39, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jolly Mazimhaka[edit]

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Only links to one article being her husband. Searching in google news, google scholar and JSTOR yields very little. Fails WP:BIO, WP:AUTHOR, WP:ACADEMIC. LibStar (talk) 06:34, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bamidele Onalaja[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG or WP:ANYBIO. Not enough sources to establish GNG here. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 06:33, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep- I found the source below

[21], [22], [23], [24], [25], [26], [27]. I'm of the opinion that some articles doesn't need to go through AFD instead a notability tag should be placed for it to be improved on if the editor placing it , isn't ready to find source.Otbest (talk) 07:28, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Now let me help you take a look at the sources you provided here.
  1. [28] — This source fails WP:INDEPENDENT for having statements on quote like "I am", "We have", etc. Red XN
  2. [29] — This source fails WP:SIGCOV as it only passes mentions of the subject. Red XN
  3. [30] — This pieces was clearly disclaimed by the reliable Punch as a Sponsored Content, which makes it fail WP:INDEPENDENT. Red XN
  4. [31] — This reliable piece does not provide WP:SIGCOV on Onalaja in its entirety. Red XN
  5. [32] — This unreliable piece (what's a news story without a byline?) is WP:ROUTINE coverage. Red XN
  6. [33] — This does not provide WP:SIGCOV either, plus, it's WP:ROUTINE coverage. Red XN
  7. [34] — Only this piece I consider both reliable, independent of the subject and covers the subject to an extent. Green tickY
I hope this helps your understanding of how sources are handled individually. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 08:05, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep.
@Vanderwaalforces: Thank you for your valuable contributions, which will positively impact the article in the long run. I believe the article should be kept, and a notability tag can be placed to encourage further improvements.
Based on my opinion on the comments you made on the sources
  1. [35] — This source fails WP:INDEPENDENT for having statements on quote like "I am", "We have", etc. Red XN
Response: The source "60 Leading Real Estate CEOs of 2022 in Nigeria (Part B)" from The Guardian does contain quotes and statements directly from the CEOs, which might seem promotional. Nonetheless, it is crucial to recognize that such features often include direct quotes to provide insights directly from the subject being discussed. This does not inherently disqualify the source as non-independent. Green tickY
  1. [36] — This source fails WP:SIGCOV as it only passes mentions of the subject. Red XN
Response: I respectfully disagree with the assertion that the source fails WP:SIGCOV due to only passing mentions of the subject. The article from This Day Live provides significant coverage of the controversy surrounding Onalaja's alleged unauthorized representation as the Chair of the Lagos Chapter. It details the reactions and statements from REDAN, offering context and specifics about the situation, which go beyond mere passing mentions. This level of detail and the focus of the article on this issue align with the criteria for significant coverage under WP:SIGCOV. Green tickY
  1. [37] — This pieces was clearly disclaimed by the reliable Punch as a Sponsored Content, which makes it fail WP:INDEPENDENT. Red XN
Response: Reliability of the Source: Punch is a well-established and reputable news organization. The fact that they disclosed the sponsorship openly is a sign of their commitment to transparency. This transparency can help readers critically evaluate the content, but it does not automatically discredit the information presented.
Also the reliability of the information, one should look at the facts presented in the article itself and cross-reference them with other independent sources. If the claims about RevolutionPlus CEO Onalaja making Forbes Africa's Undiscovered Series list can be corroborated by other independent and credible sources, then the article’s content remains valid despite its sponsored nature. Green tickY
  1. [38] — This reliable piece does not provide WP:SIGCOV on Onalaja in its entirety. Red XN
Response: This should be considered as providing significant coverage under WP:SIGCOV, as it thoroughly examines an important aspect of Onalaja's public and professional life. Green tickY
  1. [39] — This unreliable piece (what's a news story without a byline?) is WP:ROUTINE coverage. Red XN
Response: While it's understandable to be cautious about sources lacking a byline, it's important to consider the broader context before deeming the piece unreliable. The absence of a byline doesn't automatically discredit the content; many reputable outlets occasionally publish articles without bylines for various reasons, such as protecting the identity of the journalist or because the piece was a collaborative effort. Green tickY
  1. [40] — This does not provide WP:SIGCOV either, plus, it's WP:ROUTINE coverage. Red XN
Response: The source on the Onalajas’ induction into the Arch Klump Society represents a notable achievement within the philanthropic and service community, and the coverage in Independent.ng reflects the significance of their contributions both locally and globally. Green tickY
Thank you again for your contribution
Coreyfranklin533 (talk) 10:31, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Coreyfranklin533 With your “Response”s it is clear that you do not understand how GNG works yet. Also, you explanations to do in how you got the image as your “Own work”, kindly do explain. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 10:50, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep
@Vanderwaalforces I appreciate your feedback, and I'm here to clarify any misunderstandings. Regarding my responses on how GNG work, I'm committed to continually improving and learning more about it.
Regarding the "Own work" label on my image, I recognize that there could be some confusion. Transparency is key. As a new contriubor who is open to learning, I want to assure you that I strictly follow ethical standards. When I mark an image as "Own work," it means I made it myself.
Coreyfranklin533 (talk) 11:33, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Coreyfranklin533 Okay, it is now clear that this is actuslly an article about yourself. You are strongly discouraged to write an article about yourself on English Wikipedia, see WP:AUTOBIO. It is an example of conflict of interest and violates Wikipedia’s policy on conflict of interest and in extension, will most likely violate the neutral point of view policy.
Also, please stop adding “Keep” to every of your replies, you’ve !voted three times now which is not supposed to be so. Please, strike any two of them. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 11:42, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@VanderwaalforcesThis article is clearly not about myself and it does not in anyway violates Wikipedia’s policy on conflict of interest. Like I have said, I am open to suggestions from the community to improve the article's neutrality and quality, and this can be done without nominating the article for deletion.
Thanks.
Coreyfranklin533 (talk) 11:54, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I drop the stick here. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 12:34, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - The article has been assessed as Start-Class, which will attain higher grades as it develops over time. Coreyfranklin533 (talk) 10:45, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That doesn't mean an article can't fail an AFD. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 00:43, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete this is a PR based on other PR profiles. Mccapra (talk) 11:47, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Mccapra The article doesn't showcase any public relations (PR) infleunce. Also, the sources mentioned are indeed credible and well-recognized .
    Kindly expantiate what you mean by PR based in the narrative.
    Coreyfranklin533 (talk) 12:01, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - @Coreyfranklin533: I feel the way you are going instead of dialogue, you might end up making this article I feel has potential be deleted. Portrait your point and allow admin or the closing editor to decide but to me I feel he is notable under WP:BASIC Otbest (talk) 13:59, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Otbest
    Thank you for pointing that out. Coreyfranklin533 (talk) 14:54, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. The subject fails WP:GNG and WP:ANYBIO as pointed out by the nominator. None of the businesses he founded are notable; the accolades he has received are also not notable. Three of the article's nine sources are about the subject receiving some sort of honorary reward. This article is pretty much WP:PROMO.  Versace1608  Wanna Talk? 14:32, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Versace1608 @Vanderwaalforces
    The businesses he founded are indeed notable. They have made significant impacts in their respective industries and have been covered by reputable sources. The success and influence of these businesses contribute to his overall notability.
    The subject has received accolades from Forbes Africa, which is a highly reputable and notable source.
    I am open to corrections and welcome any suggestions for improvement to ensure the article meets Wikipedia’s standards.
    Thank you
    Coreyfranklin533 (talk) 14:53, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per @Vanderwaalforces' thorough source analysis. The page author's persistent sealioning comments (like "The fact that they disclosed the sponsorship openly is a sign of their commitment to transparency," LOL) illustrate a deep lack of understanding of policy. Meanwhile, as Vanderwaalforces notes, if the author is truly the photographer/copyright holder of the photo uploaded to Commons, then this page has a major WP:COI problem on top of its non-notability, and if the photo is not the author's own work, the photo needs to be deleted pronto. Dclemens1971 (talk) 16:47, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Silicon Slopes[edit]

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Article is well sourced and well written, however, it does not refer to a municipality, but an ill-defined geographic area. Silicon Slopes is essentially a commercial high tech real estate project that over time grew out of Thanksgiving Point with a large amount (over 40%) of vacant real estate and this article is the ad for that . Article makes more sense merged into Utah Valley since having a standalone article is nothing more than advertising for commercial real estate in Lehi, Utah. Recommend delete or merge into the previously mentioned articles. KindHorta (talk) 05:56, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I change my vote to keep and request this Afd be closed. Whether the content should be merged into Utah Valley is another discussion for another day. The article has been improved to the point it's no longer a blatant advertisement. KindHorta (talk) 21:33, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and refine. As this well-sourced article notes, the concept is distinct and well-established, but there's no evidence to say Silicon Slopes is centered on Lehi versus the broader Wasatch Front region. Compare the lede for Silicon Valley: "Silicon Valley is a region in Northern California that is a global center for high technology and innovation. Located in the southern part of the San Francisco Bay Area, it corresponds roughly to the geographical area of the Santa Clara Valley." Likewise, for this, I'd suggest that framing Silicon Slopes like this: "Silicon Slopes is a term that defines the part of Utah that is a major economic center for technology and innovation businesses. Centered on the cities of Salt Lake City and Provo and their surrounding suburbs, it corresponds roughly to the geographical area of the Wasatch Front." In fact, I'm going to make that change right now. Dclemens1971 (talk) 17:13, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia is not for advertising and honestly, that's all this article is about. Your corrections help a little but seriously, this article is an advertisement. I am not certain that claiming the entire Wasatch Front, which is hundreds of miles long, encompasses Silicon Slopes just because the article says so. Silicon Slopes is centered at point of the mountain north of Lehi, and that's where it started from the Thanksgiving Point commercial real estate complex which expanded over time. This article is a blatant advertisement and is written as such. KindHorta (talk) 02:14, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If the article's too promotional, then WP:FIXTHEPROBLEM. Deletion is for articles that don't belong on Wikipedia at all, usually for notability reasons. There's plenty of WP:SIRS sourcing for "Silicon Slopes" as a concept (and it's sourced as well as or better than most of the other "Silicon ___" appellations with articles on Wikipedia). This debate isn't about whether the article is promotional; it's about whether the topic is notable. Do you disagree? Dclemens1971 (talk) 04:02, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
From Lehi, Utah - Ancestry.com moved its headquarters from Provo to Lehi in May 2016. The headquarters building is located in The Corporate Center at Traverse Mountain. Microsoft has an engineering department specializing in the next version of its MDOP (Microsoft Desktop Optimization Pack), code-named "Park City."[19] Initially employing 100, Microsoft has built a second building to house its staff.[20] Microsoft Southwest District is located at 3400 N. Ashton Blvd., Suite 300 Lehi, Utah 84043.[21] Other Thanksgiving Park tenants are Oracle Corporation, Infusionsoft, Workfront, Vivint Solar, Agel Enterprises, DigiCert, Jolt and ProPay Inc.[22]. Article should be deleted are merged, preferably merged into Utah Valley which is where is belongs. KindHorta (talk) 05:30, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Reliable sources make clear that "Silicon Slopes" refers to a wider area beyond Lehi: Draper (Deseret News, SL Tribune), Midvale (KSL News Radio), Ogden (Utah Business, TechCrunch, Axios), South Jordan Utah Business), American Fork (Utah Business), and Provo KUER). Dclemens1971 (talk) 11:39, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I agree there are a lot of promotional articles claimed to be sources, and I also agree the topic is notable. What I am debating is where it should be mentioned. There are a lot of articles on Wikipedia that are well sourced but turn out to be advertisements and get deleted or merged. "Silicon Slopes" is now a marketing term for any high tech company in Utah. I lived in Utah for 30 years and was living there when Silicon Slopes was being built and I can tell you with certainty it only referred to the area north of Lehi, and it did not embrace the 200 or so miles along the entire Wasatch front, which is what you are claiming. You are just flat wrong and the sources you quote are all promotional nonsense advertising high tech real estate in Lehi, Utah. KindHorta (talk) 20:40, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: Please note this is the second AfD for this article. The first was improperly overwritten by the nominator here. Owen× 06:25, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There was no listing on the talk page of the previous Afd, and when I inserted the template it ended up in the wrong place. I tried to go back after the fact but I may need some help with doing that. Sorry. KindHorta (talk) 20:51, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: Part of the problem here is that the nominator is removing numerous WP:SIRS from the article (under the guise of removing "advertising") that support the idea of "Silicon Slopes" as a collective name for the regional tech economy and collapsing the concept to a single nonprofit with the same name, which is a form of WP:ORIGINALRESEARCH. I have no dog in this fight other than that I have heard numerous people referring to the greater Salt Lake region this way, and reliable sources (such as the ones I've cited upthread) confirm this usage. Dclemens1971 (talk) 13:42, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As I have repeatedly said, "Silicon Slopes" is a marketing platform to advertise Utah Valley, real estate and workforce as the next "Silicon Valley". All of my content is backed up with concrete secondary sources. All of these sources you keep quoting have their origins from siliconslopes.com, a "mormons only" club trying to convince large high tech companies to settle in Utah and employ mormons. If you are a non-mormon, LGBT, or a woman you won't get a job there or equal pay comparable to the diversity in the real Silicon Valley, and you will face discrimination in housing and other areas of life if you move there. Please stop drinking the Silicon Slopes Koolaide and actually go and read and research these sources. What's original research is claiming that "Silicon Slopes" is a regional area of Utah when in fact the sources point to it as a crowd-marketing scam to lure people into Utah that is run by mormon interests. There is no map or regional area, municipality, or city with the name "Silicon Slopes". It's original research to claim Silicon Slopes is the same as "Wasatch Front". KindHorta (talk) 20:51, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't say it's the same as the Wasatch Front. I said it encompasses a tech economy throughout the Wasatch Front area. I have no idea who you are but you seem to have a major axe to grind here. This language you've added in the article ("Although often compared to Silicon Valley, Silicon Slopes lacks the workforce diversity and climate of equality and inclusiveness which exists in Silicon Valley. Due to the strong influence of the Mormon Church in the area, women, LGBT, and minorities face significant challenges in the workplace in Utah and discrimination in pay and other benefits. Salt Lake City is somewhat more inclusive than Utah Valley where Silicon Slopes is based, which is over 90% Latter Day Saint in terms of population. Incidents of antisemitism and discrimination of LGBT and women have been reported in the Silicon Slopes workplace. The Silicon Slopes job market is also reported to be over-hyped in comparison to Silicon Valley.") is not NPOV, and you appear to be a WP:SPA since your edits are only on this article and this AfD. Ironically, considering you started this AfD by complaining about promotional content, what you are doing appears to be WP:PROMOTION of a particular point of view. As you point out above, you believe this is a "crowd marketing scam" run by shadowy "mormon interests." I have been assuming good faith until now but seeing these kind of comments, there is no way you are in a position to edit this article fairly and I think you should step back from the article and let this AfD run its course. P.S. I'm not Mormon, I don't live in Utah, I don't work in tech, I have no affiliation with anything to do with this subject matter, but I can read the sources. Dclemens1971 (talk) 21:09, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
All of that content you object to is backed up with credible reliable secondary sources. I usually just edit with my IP, but you need an account to Afd and I have been forthright about that and disclosed it as required by WP policy. I have no axe to grind here other than improving the quality of WP. I also know a lot about this topic and I came across this article and saw it flagged as advertising and it in fact is advertising, so I reviewed it and tried to improve it. I have to wonder if you have a WP:COI. Can you please disclose your relationship to this topic. KindHorta (talk) 21:15, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I just told you above I don't have one. Look at my contribution history -- I'm a new page reviewer working this month to clear the new page review backlog, so I engage in tons of discussions here on many different topics. I'm able to review the sources and I know the framework for how they validate notability or not. I had heard casual mention of this topic a couple times before but didn't dig in until I reviewed your AfD. Meanwhile, you have used biased and POV language and disclosed that you lived close to the original development, so obviously you have a specific take on it. And like I said, perhaps you should step back and let this this AfD take its course. Dclemens1971 (talk) 21:21, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Now that the advertising has been removed for the most part and silicon slopes has been "unmasked" in the article, I hope the article get's kept or merged. I have consistently said I think the topic is notable and belongs on WP, but cleaned up and properly scaled. I think this article goes well with Utah Valley and belongs there but that's up to the consensus of other editors. I want you and others to understand how Silicon Slopes came to be and what it is apart of the marketing and hype. As of today, it's a lot of vacant real estate looking for tenants. KindHorta (talk) 21:28, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Deletion is not cleanup, so if you think the article is sufficiently improved, you should !vote to withdraw your nomination so this debate can be closed. Dclemens1971 (talk) 21:30, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rusty Fein[edit]

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:55, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete Moderate success at lower levels but does not meet WP:GNG guidelines. Go4thProsper (talk) 01:53, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - The first source provided above is quite good, especially if you go to C5, where it focuses much more on him. I lean towards discounting the second source above since it mostly talks about his former partner's retirement and him contemplating the same in very few words. It is also the same publication and not independent of source #1 above. However, from the sources in the article, the Skate Today piece seems to cover him specifically in depth. Those are enough to meet GNG vice NSKATE in my view. -2pou (talk) 19:42, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Aida Rybalko[edit]

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:54, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Dan Hennessey[edit]

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Lacking of citations and General Notability Bennyaha (talk) 04:04, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete. As always, the notability test for actors is not automatically passed just because the article contains a list of roles sourced to IMDb or an IMDb-like directory — it requires passing WP:GNG on reliable source coverage about him and his work in media and/or books, of which there's absolutely none shown here. Bearcat (talk) 15:03, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment from article creator (before we hit this AFD's normal deadline): This is one of several artifacts from the time I focused on Care Bears content (as a fan back then; my kidvid interests have long since shifted). Hennessey was the voice of Brave Heart Lion, a Care Bear Cousin. ("Charge!")
As for viable sources, this starting point might not amount to enough, but this is the most in-depth writeup I could find. From here, it's up to the S.S. Cunard (talk · contribs) and others of interest to find a few more out there someplace.
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Corwin, Henry County, Indiana[edit]

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Searches did not return any coverage of a settlement or community, and USGS topo maps do not show a community or even a name at this location. The GNIS entry lists its source as "Illustrated Historical Atlas of the State of Indiana. Chicago: Baskin, Forster and Company, 1876. An extensively illustrated atlas which includes several U.S. and Indiana thematic and political maps, and maps of counties, towns and cities. The atlas also has many illustrations and portraits, patrons' and business directories, county histories and a U.S. Post Office list." As far as I can tell this was never anything more than a named point on the railroad. –dlthewave 04:02, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete Non-notable railroad waypoint, nothing more. The name "Corwin" does appear on USGS topo maps starting in 2010, which makes me think someone as USGS just blindly entered the term from GNIS, much like the creator of this article certainly did. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 13:44, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Henry county Indiana, has a few good sources that discuss it's place names EG[48] that don't mention this place, so why should it be mentioned here?James.folsom (talk) 21:09, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Devora Radeva[edit]

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:52, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Candice Towler-Green[edit]

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:51, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Dominika Polakowska[edit]

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:49, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Tatsuya Tanaka (figure skater)[edit]

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:49, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep This user has nominated 49 different figure skaters for deletion within approximately 30 mins which leaves me doubting that a WP:BEFORE search has been conducted, let alone one that includes native language sources. DCsansei (talk) 12:58, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Procedural keep -- Nominator regularly bypasses WP:BEFORE searches. JTtheOG (talk) 17:17, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete insuffient coverage.--Wish for Good (talk) 04:21, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. plicit 03:49, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Charissa Tansomboon[edit]

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:48, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Jacqueline Voll[edit]

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:47, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Voll placed third at the senior national championships in 2008 and 2009, as evidenced by the references given. She placed 2nd at the 2007 senior national championships but I can´t find online the results of that competition. Anyhow, there is no doubt that Voll meets Wikipedia:NSKATE. Ruud Buitelaar (talk) 01:26, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Bronze and silver medals at the senior national championships explicitly do not meet the criteria of WP:NSKATE. Bgsu98 (Talk) 08:09, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You´re right, I misread. Criteria are rather strict, I´d say. I´ll strike through my keep vote Ruud Buitelaar (talk) 15:39, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete -- she doesn't fulfill the criteria, especially in current state. if theres more to add to the article, someone should add. MaskedSinger (talk) 06:52, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Wang Qingyun[edit]

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:47, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Aleksandr Anichenko[edit]

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:46, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment- She has participated in more than 3 Olympic [49] while presenting her country, She ought to be notable. Otbest (talk) 18:36, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Pierre-Loup Bouquet[edit]

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:45, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Fyodor Chernozubov[edit]

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No sources and I have been unable to find any. Also does not appear to meet WP:GNG. Kingsmasher678 (talk) 02:45, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep based on the awards he received, unless some wants to argue that the ru.wiki sources are not adequate. Mccapra (talk) 06:45, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    If someone can fix the articles and give citations to them, then they should stay. But I don't speak the language, and the current article dosen't cite any sources, and I couldn't find any.
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Elliot Pennington[edit]

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:45, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy keep‎. Bgsu98 (Talk) 21:06, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Eric Saucke-Lacelle[edit]

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:44, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hayley Anne Sacks[edit]

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:43, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Kamil Białas[edit]

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:42, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Marta Paoletti[edit]

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:41, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Isabella Pajardi[edit]

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:41, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Michael Novales[edit]

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:40, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Procedural keep -- Nominator regularly bypasses WP:BEFORE searches and 50 AfDs in 30 minutes is wholly inappropriate. JTtheOG (talk) 19:08, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Nominator comment: You're the one who de-prodded all of my nominations, so you don't get to complain now that they're at AFD, which is where nominations go when the PROD has been removed. Add to that your bad faith aspersions. A disagreement as to what qualifies as "significant coverage" is not evidence of bypassing anything. Bgsu98 (Talk) 20:17, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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George Braakman[edit]

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:38, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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William Nagle (figure skater)[edit]

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:38, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Danny Moir[edit]

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:37, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Natalia Mitsuoka[edit]

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:36, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. plicit 03:49, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Olivia Nicole Martins[edit]

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:35, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Siobhan McColl[edit]

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:35, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Alexandra Maksimova[edit]

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:34, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Krzysztof Komosa[edit]

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:34, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Yevhen Kholoniuk[edit]

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:32, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Wang Meng (figure skater)[edit]

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:31, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Lee Chu-hong[edit]

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:30, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Lee Sun-bin (figure skater)[edit]

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:29, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Magdalena Leska[edit]

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:29, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Kevin Maguire (figure skater)[edit]

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:28, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Johanna Purdy[edit]

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:27, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Alexandr Levintsov[edit]

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:27, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Veronika Kropotina[edit]

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:25, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Aneta Kowalska[edit]

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:24, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Zsolt Kosz[edit]

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:24, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Takuya Kondoh[edit]

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:23, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep This user has nominated 49 different figure skaters for deletion within approximately 30 mins which leaves me doubting that a WP:BEFORE search has been conducted, let alone one that includes native language sources. DCsansei (talk) 12:58, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Nominator comment: As stated in the nomination, these were all PRODs that were deprodded in rapid succession. My work on these nominations took place before the PROD, not last night when I sent them to AFD. Bgsu98 (Talk) 20:19, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Procedural keep -- Nominator regularly bypasses WP:BEFORE searches (see 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, etc. within the past week) and fails to address WP:GNG in his nominations. Regardless, 50 AfDs in 30 minutes is wholly inappropriate. JTtheOG (talk) 00:16, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hirokazu Kobayashi (figure skater)[edit]

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:22, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete I was not able to find any sources that meet GNG. Fails WP:NSKATE. --Enos733 (talk) 15:34, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment This user nominated 49 different figure skaters for deletion within approximately 30 mins which leaves me doubting that a WP:BEFORE search has been conducted, let alone one that includes native language sources. I'm categorically opposed to AfDs without a proper BEFORE, so I would argue for keep (while knowing this is not a !vote). While I also haven't done a extensive BEFORE search but was quickly able to find an interview with TV Tokyo [58] and a feature on him in J-Sport [59] in the Japanese article. DCsansei (talk) 00:00, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sarah-Marine Rouffanche[edit]

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:21, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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List of ONS built-up areas in England by population[edit]

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As has been discussed on the talk page, this list relies on a single WP:PRIMARY source and has multiple WP:SYNTH issues. It is a poor summary of the primary source [UK Office for National Statistics (ONS) release] because it lacks the extensive contextualisation included in that source. In the absence of any secondary sources, it adds nothing to the original source. In terms of encyclopedic value, it is of dubious merit because the nomenclature chosen by the ONS conflicts with common usage and thus requires qualification by a complete list of included and excluded wards/parishes – which it doesn't have as that would require even more SYNTH violations.

The only alternative to outright deletion that I can see is to park it in draft space until the ONS produces its statistics by agglomeration (conurbation). There is a reason why no secondary sources have bothered to respond to this release of statistics: it is not useful. --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 16:22, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: I would like to point out List of urban areas in the United Kingdom,
ESPON metropolitan areas in the United Kingdom and multiple county by population articles should fall in the same category if the decision is to delete the article. If the ONS are releasing agglomerations (which is highly unlikely) these are would go on to List of urban areas in the United Kingdom unless both are (understandably to to me) merged if they do. JMF maybe you should have put the second paragraph in a separate reply with delete in bold as the first one paragraph sets the discussion and the second is your opinion and it would make it easier to skim down the bold to know which action or inaction is taken. Chocolateediter (talk) 16:52, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment is there consensus on which list the the 'definitive' one? Would it be possible to merge all the different place types into one page or even one table? The way population in the UK is broken down seems really inconsistent which know this has been discussed at Wikipedia:WikiProject UK geography. I added a comment on Talk:Birkenhead built-up area last week when I came across it because I feel the article's very existence does the opposite of adding to the sum of human knowledge. To stay on topic: the reason I ask is I would agree with the deletion of this page (and others) depending on page would remain. Orange sticker (talk) 21:21, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • And that is the problem in a nutshell. Political boundaries (civil parishes, UAs etc.) are well defined but subject to sudden changes. Settlement boundaries are not well defined and are subject to 'creep' and merge. Political boundaries don't catch up, so you get nonsense like large parts of Reading that are excluded because they were built across the local authority line. Ditto Cambridge and Luton/Dunstable. Birkenhead (indeed the Wirral in total) is nothing like what it was 100 years ago, yet some people try very hard to insist that places that have merged are still distinct because they can't cope with the concept of a polycentric settlement, or can't accept that their "village" has become a suburb. So without a single undisputed definition of a settlement, we will never have a single undisputed list of settlements and (IMO at least) it is counterproductive and misleading to pretend otherwise. --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 12:14, 10 May 2024 (UTC) revised 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 12:29, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep We often keep lists of populated places as published by reliable government sources. I don't see the SYNTH issue, any contextualisation can be edited into the article, and not useful is an argument to avoid as it's in the eye of the beholder. SportingFlyer T·C 17:04, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Do you consider it sensible to have a list that includes no part of Greater London whatever, doesn't recognise Greater Manchester, includes Solihull in "Birmingham", omits Caversham, Reading from "Reading" and Bletchley from "Milton Keynes"? In fact a list that has to qualify many name places to explain what they include and (prospectively) what they don't include. How is that useful? --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 17:21, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The London region is a approximately a 5th of the UKs population and rough the same population as all the other nations combined so yes the ONS don’t record the areas BUAs like Scotland and Northern Ireland (it did for Wales).
    Greater Manchester is a combined authority and county not a 2021BUA. Solihull is separate (number 63) to Birmingham. Chocolateediter (talk) 18:59, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete This list is based on ONS data, excluding the Greater London and Manchester. It is not aligned to either geographical or political areas (example:Castle Point is split on this list is split into Canvey, Thundersley and South Benfleet but no mention of Hadleigh). It does even meet postal or phone code areas. So how useful is this to readers? Zero.Davidstewartharvey (talk) 17:38, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep It is what it is, a reproduction of ONS data, which is what it says it is, it's not our job to second guess or judge whether the ONS have got things right or not, merely to report it, which is what the article does. G-13114 (talk) 17:43, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete No indication of notability. Fails the general notability guideline - not presumed a notable subject by significant coverage in reliable sources, and has a sole significant source, being a primary source only and not independent of the subject - the ONS itself. Not justified under the notability criteria for a stand-alone list, with no indication that the list topic has been discussed as a group or set by independent reliable sources. Lacks encyclopedic value, being an abstruse segmentation of census data with such startling omissions and variable relationship to settlements as to be misleading. As to our job, it is not Wikipedia's job to reproduce, mirror or regurgitate ONS datasets as standalone lists. NebY (talk) 18:17, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak keep while the definition ONS uses is arguably primary its a secondary source for the places themselves and although there are many sources for places in England they will often have different definitions for different places/sources while this one is consistent for England even if the definition recently changed. Crouch, Swale (talk) 19:20, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - it's one of the few ONS geographic measures that captures unparished areas, which many towns are. Furthermore, the larger urban areas are subdivided into recognised cartographic areas by the UK's national mapping organisation, just because it doesn't match an administrative boundary (which is invisible on the ground anyway) doesn't mean it isn't valid. It's to give a snapshot of areas for very high level purposes, population stats of course don't remain static but it presents a reasonable idea of areas to readers. The Equalizer (talk) 08:15, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There are two distinct issues here.
  1. On the one hand, we have the original ONS data release, which is a 100% WP:RS for the purposes you describe. It is not perfect in some details (what is?) but by looking closely at the mapping, the individual data lines and the covering narrative, a sensible list can be drawn up. Which is exactly what a secondary source, CityPopulation.de, has done here. They have managed to produce a sensible, credible list.
  2. On the other hand, we have this article, which amplifies the errors in the ONS report. (It is not for nothing that the ONS have declared that henceforth they will leave physical geography to the experts at the Ordnance Survey).
Your objective is entirely satisfied by the original data source: you haven't explained what value this article has added. 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 11:59, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm really unsure as to why citypopulation.de would be more reliable than actual census numbers. SportingFlyer T·C 17:19, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - This article has all the same problems as the deleted Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of localities in England by population. Its pretty much just a copy of it with updated data given a different name. Eopsid (talk) 19:18, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. The objective of this article is, I assume, to present a meaningful, ordered table of population figures for named towns and cities in England (as in this article's original title) — something not provided by the data source, an ONS Excel spreadsheet; hence, there could be added value. However, the omission of Greater London sorely compromises this, because to the average reader it's likely seen as nonsensical. If there's a possibility we can fathom out a way round this shortcoming, I'd be looking to revise and keep, if we cannot, delete. The article can also serve as a navigational list to settlement articles and readers may want to use population as a means for selection; this does not necessarily require the notability of a standalone list. Rupples (talk) 22:55, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    (2nd attempt at reply after losing last one due to a computer error creating human error grrrr)
    What about using inner and outer London statistics from the "Population and household estimates, England and Wales: Census 2021" dataset[60] as they don’t fit in the district, county or regional list articles and don’t seem to have much municipal function. This could be in a section of its own above major and maybe also the key table with a little explainer. Both inner and outer London have populations above Birmingham so come in nicely above it.
    Could add a second column with citypopulation.de statistics[61] if more than one source/viewpoint (since the site cites the ONS) is what some would like to have. Chocolateediter (talk) 00:22, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I assume most of the ONS BUA definitions do conform to what we regard as towns and cities, else there's a problem retaining the population figures in England settlement article infoboxes. Don't see why London Region can't be used [62] and London included — its the combined population of the London boroughs, which I suggest is the definition most people, at least in the UK, would associate as being London. The only other notes within the article where explanation seems to be required are Milton Keynes and Manchester. Are there others? "Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater" comes to mind. No one seems to be challenging List of built-up areas in Wales by population. Readers will rightly wonder why we don't have an equivalent for England, should this be deleted. Rupples (talk) 04:10, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I think we could easily explain why London is excluded from the data set, and include it maybe as a sub-heading, but I can't quickly find why it's excluded in a search, and in any case it's an editing problem, not a notability problem. SportingFlyer T·C 05:15, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry but all those suggestions sound like WP:SYNTH to me. In regards to the List of built-up areas in Wales by population it has a lot of problems it uses two different definitions of built-up area because the ONS confusingly decided to use the same name for a different concept in the 2021 census. Eopsid (talk) 09:40, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Well the Manchester note wasn’t really needed, It was only added it to prove a point with the Milton Keynes one as two users had problems with Bletchley being separate from Milton Keynes which it had also been separate for the 2011 census.
The explanation given by the ONS is:
"For the remainder of our analysis, we have removed London's 33 BUAs. This is because in Greater London, the method to identify BUAs does not recognise individual settlements in the same way. It instead provides data by London borough boundaries."
Which the ONS did pretty much do in 2011 and it went against analysis that the other areas had, they could have done some analysis though and I guess they might at a later date in a separate report. Chocolateediter (talk) 10:26, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This nomination is not a criticism of the ONS. It is a proposal to delete a list that is a poor summary of the ONS list, reinforcing its errors and failing to reproduce its many caveats. (At least the ONS has some awareness of its weaknesses and inconsistencies.) It adds no value to the ONS list, it subtracts from it. We are not helping readers; if we can't do better than this then we must back away and refer readers to the source.
The best secondary source available is CityPopulation.de but that option has been rejected. They at least treat Luton/Dunstable, Bournemouth/Poole and Brighton/Hove as physically contiguous units: the ONS claims to ignore administrative boundaries but has not consistently done so. CityPopulation also ignores the ONS's sloppy toponymy (carving chunks out of places like Reading and Milton Keynes, then applying to the remainder the name of the whole) to give a sensible population report for the English cities. CityPopulation digests and makes sense of the raw ONS report; this article merely reinforces its confusions.
The only way out of this mess that I can see is to prefer the CityPopulation data. --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 11:45, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's a perception to state the ONS have made errors, not a fact. Neither the ONS data or CityPopulation figures will likely see agreement between interested editors for every one of their definitions, because neither set is produced to fit Wikipedia articles. The only set of population figures where there's probably no disagreement is for council area's with defined boundaries. Take Milton Keynes, which started the 'dispute' about this article, the 'best fit' figure for the population of Milton Keynes could have been the Milton Keynes BUA or the total of the Milton Keynes and Bletchley BUAs, but the editors of that article saw fit to define Milton Keynes as its larger urban area, so it's valid to include the agglomerated population. Luton has not been defined as 'Luton urban area including Dunstable and Houghton Regis' so it is not appropriate to link an agglomerated population figure to that article. Rupples (talk) 17:06, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
When the ONS uses the name of the whole as the name of a part, as it has done in the case of (at least) Milton Keynes and Reading, then that is an error. But that is why we don't use primary sources as it usually needs a secondary source to take the long view, as CityPopulation has done.
Again, it is not the purpose of this nomination to denounce the ONS. They remain a highly reliable source of primary data and its analysis. The question is only whether it is valid for Wikipedia to copy their spreadsheet, taking it out of its contextual analysis. Why? --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 18:57, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We use primary sources for statistics all the time. Otherwise we wouldn't have any population information anywhere on the site. SportingFlyer T·C 19:04, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No, that is a fundamental misunderstanding of WP:PRIMARY. We cite statistical sources and rightly so. The issue here (and in the other lists that have already been deleted for the same reason) is that it is not legitimate to create an article that is a selective copy of the source. As WP:PRIMARY says 1. Primary sources that have been reputably published may be used in Wikipedia, but only with care, because it is easy to misuse them --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 09:32, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment
    • I believe that editors found the 2011 ONS built-up areas were useful, but that their sub-divisions were arbitrary and hard to understand.
    • Many of the 2021 "built-up areas" are similar to the 2011 sub-divisions, and are equally hard to understand.
    • For example, the Dunstable built-up area in this list has a population of 34,500, while the Dunstable article gives the population of the parish as 40,699. Readers might think there are 6,199 people living in the rural hinterland of Dunstable. They would be wrong; almost all the area covered by Dunstable Town Council is built-up. A comparison of the maps [63] and [64] shows that the ONS has allocated a large part of eastern Dunstable to the Luton built-up area.
    • The list article says "built-up area boundaries are defined and named by the ONS". The ONS documentation is hard to follow. However, it seems that the Ordnance Survey are actually responsible, and their site [65] includes a 2022 "Technical specification" (with a methodology that considers land-use and "the Settlement Named Area dataset" to decide which 25-metre cells to merge together) and a "Release Note" (which says "Using customer feedback, improvements have been made in the [April] 2024 release, by refining the definition of a Built Up Area") but no updated "Technical specification".
    • If the list article is retained, it must have a better explanation that mentions ways in which a "built-up area" might differ from what you expect. Ideally this explanation should be based on secondary sources, but I would be content if a mole inside the ONS were to edit the article and explain what is happening.
    • The article should also explain about the "Related places" (are they included within or excluded from the area) and tell readers where they can find a map of each area. Perhaps they can be referred to citypoulation.de. The ONS interactive map does not seem to know about built-up areas. JonH (talk) 19:27, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. The places named in the second column of the table in the article were recently dewikilinked to our articles on the related settlements thus nullifying the argument for the article being a navigational aid to finding those articles. AFAIK most England settlement articles use built up area as best available fit for population, so why dewiklink and place a hidden instruction not to wikilink? Granted, there are a few exceptions where BUA is not the best fit, but those instances can and were being noted. It should not have resulted in a 'carte blanche' dewikilinking. Rupples (talk) 14:35, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Unless the ONS BUA is the same as the settlement described in the article (which it often is not), then to wikilink it is a navigational aid over a precipice. We must not deliberately mislead our readers. --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 15:47, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The problem is not with this article as such but with the choice of Infobox used in our settlement articles. Liverpool uses Template:Infobox settlement which allows more than one definition of population — two population figures are shown in that article's infobox. Milton Keynes on the other hand uses Template:Infobox UK place which limits population to a single field. Rupples (talk) 16:51, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The strong consensus at WP:WikiProject UK geography is to prefer and seek to transition to Infobox UK Place when possible. Apart from being more customised to UK political geography, it avoids the clutter and trivia invited by Infobox settlement. If a detail is that significant, it should be in the body. 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 11:59, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Ryland Adams[edit]

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This subject is far from notable by Wikipedia’s standards. There is a major lack of significant coverage addressing the subject directly, and the ones that do mention the subject fall short of being reliable sources. Majority of the sources listed are the subjects own YouTube channel or to instagram posts, see WP:NOSOCIAL. The subject falls incredibly short of the standards that are in place by Wikipedia to establish notability, as being married to someone famous does not make someone notable. 4theloveofallthings (talk) 01:50, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete does not meet the criteria set by Wikipedia to establish notability.
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Lauren Senft[edit]

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:20, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Liz Read! Talk! 04:24, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alistair Sylvester[edit]

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:20, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Procedural keep -- Nominator regularly bypasses WP:BEFORE searches and 50 AfDs in 30 minutes is wholly inappropriate. JTtheOG (talk) 19:10, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Nominator comment: You're the one who de-prodded all of my nominations, so you don't get to complain now that they're at AFD, which is where nominations go when the PROD has been removed. Add to that your bad faith aspersions. A disagreement as to what qualifies as "significant coverage" is not evidence of bypassing anything. Bgsu98 (Talk) 20:16, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: Subject meets the WP:GNG with sources such as [[68]] and [[69]]. Let'srun (talk) 14:22, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Super Magick[edit]

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Found no signs of notability (some notable publications covered the announcement/lead single but it's not exactly NMUSIC#1 level) and redirected. That's been undone, so now we're here. Got a response on my talk page including "That's an actual published album by a known rock band that has been producing albums for decades"; just wanna emphasize NOTINHERITED here in case they or anyone else is thinking of bringing that up. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 01:31, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The St. Louis Post Dispatch wrote that it was “finally” available, meaning it was anticipated and notable. Repeating that several notable publications did write about it as well.
This group has released several singles that don’t need their own pages, several live albums that don’t need their own page. However, this album was released on various media and noted in the press. This is a notable article, and sits alongside other albums in their discography, for informational and educational purposes.
I would like to note that people come to Wikipedia to find information, and undoubtedly will look for this album’s information. Deleting the page does not serve users’ interests at all. Louie Mantia (talk) 01:43, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Or "finally" just means "after a long time", and it has been a decade since their last album. And even if that were a good sign for notability, the piece is mostly an interview in which the writer only really says the same things about the album that the announcements cover, including the 93x "article" which is stated at the bottom as a press release from Frankly Media. The Riff review is good, but it's still not enough, and I know there's nothing else because I already looked and saw all of what you've added but that was it, hence why I redirected in the first place.
I already brought up NOTINHERITED because it was clearly necessary to mention, but I didn't realize I would need to point out multiple other sections of that page as well, namely WP:INTERESTING, WP:USEFUL, and WP:ABOUTEVERYTHING which pretty much all came up in your case just now. And if users are "undoubtedly" looking for this info, it can always be added to the band's page where I sent the redirect and readers will find it there just fine and be satisfied. I'll even support that as a merge argument if you're on board for it. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 02:03, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The reason this article was nominated for deletion was there were “no signs of notability.”
After that, it was immediately noted by you (QuietHere) that there were some notable publications. There is also at least one notable review, from Riff Magazine. I think we can safely say that “no signs of notability” is an inaccurate assessment. An argument can be made that there are “few” (by what measure?), but I think “none” would be too far.
I think these few sources specifically address the requirement to prove it is notable, but as @Oaktree b also pointed out, it may be too soon, as the album was released only a week ago. It’s possible more will come up, but as of this moment, it does seem to me that there are valid, suitable sources already cited in the article.
Entirely separate from my argument and unrelated to the bit about deletion, I am a bit hurt by the condescending tone you’ve (QuietHere) brought to this, notably “in case they or anyone else is thinking of bringing that up” and “I didn't realize I would need to point out multiple other sections of that page as well,” both of which imply some level of superiority, which I think is just hurtful and not constructive for this discussion. I think your argument can be made without that. Louie Mantia (talk) 12:06, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak keep: Also found this in the Tennessean [70] which is an interview with the singer, but talks about the album. With the American Songwriter article, just barely enough. Is likely TOOSOON as the album was released on the 3rd of May, more might pop up. Oaktree b (talk) 04:08, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I looked at this Riff Magazine link [71], it's not listed as a RS in Wiki Project album, but it seems ok. Another interview where they also talk about the album. Oaktree b (talk) 04:10, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Relisting for more discussion and input from editors. But from what I'm reading here, deletion is off the table and we are trying to decide between Keeping a standalone article or a Redirect/Merge closure. Either way, the content would be preserved in case there are more reviews in the future.
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Jang Sok-chol[edit]

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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 01:12, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Grigori Chernozubov[edit]

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Clearly fails notability guidelines, no significant coverage. No reason for this article. Kingsmasher678 (talk) 00:47, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: The page on Russian Wikipedia seems to be more in-depth and has more sources. Duke of New Gwynedd (talk | contrib.) 10:13, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There is still no notability, and one "brief" biography isn't really enough to build an entire article.
Kingsmasher678 (talk) 13:00, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep. He has a plaque dedicated to him, and streets namead after him, should be expanded with transation from Russian version F.Alexsandr (talk) 23:49, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You seem to speak the language, I will be happy to withdraw the request if you can bring it up to snuff.
Kingsmasher678 (talk) 00:24, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: On the one hand, there is no support for deletion. On the other hand, the keep argument is not strong. Let's hear some more thoughts on this before passing a verdict.
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  • Keep I can see multiple Google books refs in Russian. Mccapra (talk) 07:33, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Polly Namaye[edit]

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The first source is a blog, the 5th source is Twitter. Sources 2-4 are dead. Fails WP:BIO. No notability from the roles she has had. LibStar (talk) 00:30, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete Subject not notable, just known as a police woman. from searches on google she still doesn't meet WP:GNG.--Meligirl5 (talk) 10:21, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thistle Dew Dessert Theatre[edit]

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A google search for the topic found only the website, a local guide, and user-generated information. Also I couldn't find any of the first 5 sources online, and 6th source is trivial coverage. Therefore not notable. -- unsigned post by EternalNub

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  • Keep: I'd like to AGF that the offline sources are legit, in which case there is SIGCOV. Perhaps an editor with access the relevant archives can verify? -- D'n'B-t -- 10:42, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I was able to locate one of them, so I'm more confident that the others are legit. -- D'n'B-t -- 17:56, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep: "I couldn't find any of the first 5 sources online" is not an acceptable argument for deletion; see WP:PAPERONLY, which says There is no distinction between using online versus offline sources. Restricting editors to using online sources would mean that most of the information in the world would be unavailable to us. Toughpigs (talk) 16:06, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: Whoa! According to its website, this is an amateur theatre company with 39 seats performing in a Victorian house. No stage productions are currently scheduled -- it appears mostly to screen movies. It serves dessert with its shows (if they ever have any) and supposedly won a non-notable amateur theatre award. The article notes that a non-notable playwright premiered a non-notable work there. No one involved in it is asserted to be notable. Assuming this is all true, why is this an encyclopedic topic? Its website says that its theatre is available for rental for weddings, parties and classes. This seems to be an extreme case of a run-of the mill community theatre company. -- Ssilvers (talk) 17:29, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Well, it got coverage in The Los Angeles Times in 1999, and the San Francisco Chronicle in 2008. Neither of those are local to Sacramento, so apparently it was a bigger deal in the past than it is today. Toughpigs (talk) 21:05, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. As Toughpigs correctly pointed out, sources being offline doesn't matter. Cortador (talk) 20:50, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ali Hajizade[edit]

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@Correspondentman: What does "feels like PROD" mean? Also, this article has already survived one deletion nomination – it's a good idea to summarize the previous consensus and give at least a brief argument against it. jlwoodwa (talk) 22:01, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Jlwoodwa It seems that most of the users in the previous discussion are from Azerbaijan. A link to a website is like an advertisement. Correspondentman (talk) 06:39, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]