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Administrators' newsletter – December 2023

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NZ related changes

Hello @Gadfium, how do you manage to revert edits so swiftly on New Zealand-related articles? is it by using the "Related changes" changes tool? Alexeyevitch(talk) 23:37, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

I have a huge watchlist, and I also use related changes.-gadfium 00:22, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Northcote and Glenfield North

Kia ora Gadfium, do you mind if Northcote Central and Northcote, Auckland are merged into a single article, similar to how Northcote Point was merged? I'm about to make an improved suburb article for Northcote, and having 2/3 articles for the same place feels like a major content fork.

Similarly, do you have strong feelings about Glenfield North remaining separated? Having just improved the Glenfield article, there doesn't seem to be much of a consistent identity/discourse about Glenfield North being distinct from Glenfield (compared to, say, how Te Atatū Peninsula and Te Atatū South are more distinct). --Prosperosity (talk) 01:28, 3 December 2023 (UTC)

@Prosperosity: Looking at the SA3 areas, which usually give a good indication of how suburbs map to SA2 areas: they have Northcote, which consists of Northcote Central, Akoranga, Northcote Tuff Crater and Northcote South, but Northcote Point is a separate SA3 which is identical to the SA2 of the same name. I'm happy for all five SA2 areas to be in a single article.
The Glenfield SA3 comprises Glenfield West, Glenfield South West, Glenfield Central, Glenfield East, Glenfield North and Wairau Valley, so I agree that Glenfield North should be merged into Glenfield, New Zealand, and you could consider adding Wairau Valley, Auckland as well, although it is industrial/commercial and the others are residential.-gadfium 02:01, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
Great to hear, thanks! If I redirect the Glenfield North page now, would you be happy to merge the stats sections?
Wairau Valley has a distinct history, so I'm happy to have that as a separate article (Marlborough, however, is somewhere that might be good to merge into Glenfield - even after I improved the article, there was basically no content!) --Prosperosity (talk) 02:06, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
I agree with the merging of Marlborough into Glenfield. Will do the stats now.-gadfium 02:17, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
Hello! I've merged the two Glenfields - would you be able to merge the stats sections here? I think I've done the infobox correctly. --Prosperosity (talk) 00:08, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
@Prosperosity I'm touring the South Island, in Hokitika tonight. Will do the stats when I'm home mid December.-gadfium 03:25, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
No worries! Hope you have a nice trip. --Prosperosity (talk) 03:32, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
I've also just merged Westlake into Takapuna. --Prosperosity (talk) 00:14, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
Northcote and Takapuna done.-gadfium 00:47, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
Thank you so much! --Prosperosity (talk) 03:54, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
I have one more request (I think this is the last for a while!) - would you be able to do the North Shore, New Zealand demographics? I've worked out which statistical areas and meshblocks should be included, if that helps. --Prosperosity (talk) 03:56, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
I'll try to do that tomorrow. I don't have population figures for meshblocks, but often SA1 areas and meshblocks have the same boundaries, so I should be able to work with your list. This is going to be about twice as complicated as West Auckland was.-gadfium 04:15, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
North Shore demographics are done. I had to make a couple of changes to your statistical areas and meshblocks in the Okura Bush area. In translating from meshblocks to 2018 SA1 areas, MB 0178304 is part of SA1 7001928, but the SA1 also includes MB 4004005 to the east of Long Bay. I thought that was acceptable. However, MB 4011382 and 4011384, west of Ōkura settlement, are part of SA1 7001825, which includes a much larger area to the north, so I left that out.

Peter Lynn

Hi Gadfium, can you help me understand your perspective on keeping the info about Peter Lynn's father in the (currently unwieldy) page about him? Talk:Peter Lynn#Robert Frederick Lynn Retswerb (talk) 09:22, 17 December 2023 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

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CS1 error on Rolleston, New Zealand

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Clyde Quay School and Community Emergency Hub

Hi G - I see you're having a few problems with User:Wetbeans too... I've been reverted several times on that article. I'm taking it gently because s/he's a fairly new editor, but I don't think s/he's learnt about WP:OWN yet. It's annoying to have correcting of formatting to WP standard reverted though... Grutness...wha? 11:27, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

I'm sorry, yes, I am a new editor, but I'm reverting the article because people keep deleting important parts of the article. Wetbeans (talk) 17:37, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
@Wetbeans: If you don't have suitable sources, then you can't demonstrate notability. Sports at primary school level would very rarely be considered important other than by people directly participating.-gadfium 17:42, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
@Wetbeans: If someone who later went on to become a notable sportsperson (or notable in any other field) attended the school, it would be worth having that in the article — and the same if a sports team from the school on a major trophy — but as Gadfium says, (almost) all primary schools have sports, so it's hardly an important item to mention. Grutness...wha? 02:07, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
Clyde Quay School had been winning a sport competition, forgot what it was called, for almost 9 years in a row. I would've added that if anyone knew the name. Wetbeans (talk) 02:45, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
How is that school even notable? Or am I missing something? Schwede66 03:47, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
@Schwede66: It might be notable a little bit because of its age, its position very close to central Wellington, and being architect-designed. I suspect there would be many prominent NZers who attended, although I only see two names with What links here. That's probably because we don't usually note people's primary education in articles, and because "Clyde Quay School" was a redirect to the suburb until a couple of days ago. I wouldn't defend it against an AfD, but I wouldn't nominate it either.-gadfium 04:04, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
Quite a few names turn up in searching for "Clyde Quay". I'll add a section to the article. Grutness...wha? 08:56, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
That's because Clyde Quay is a place in Te Aro, Wellington. Wetbeans (talk) 18:33, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – January 2024

News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2023).

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Hibiscus Coast

Hello! Would you be able to add population stats to the Hibiscus Coast article? --Prosperosity (talk) 05:42, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

I made a start tonight, will follow up tomorrow.-gadfium 08:24, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
@Prosperosity:  Done-gadfium 00:39, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
Thank you! Could you add Stillwater and Waiwera to the demographics as well? --Prosperosity (talk) 00:54, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
 Done-gadfium 02:02, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

Localities without population data

Could I check if it's possible for you to add population data for Woodhill, Pākiri and Whakatīwai? --Prosperosity (talk) 01:57, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

@Prosperosity: If we take Woodhill as being on SH16 between Restall Road and Woodhill School, it falls between two SA1 areas: 7002133 which covers 24.80 square km, and 7001266 which covers 18.08. Both areas run west to the coast. If Woodhill also includes part of Kiwitahi Road, that's in 7001370 which covers 7.19. That's just over 50 square km, which might be too diffuse an area for a small locality.
Pakiri is simpler; Google Maps gives me a defined area and I'm familiar with the school/hall/church area and the beach. It's all covered by 7001150 which is 28.52 square km and a reasonable match for the Google Maps-defined area.
Whakatīwai is included in the Kaiaua rural settlement area. The appropriate SA1 is 7010813, covering 3.06 square km, running from Kaiaua School north to Wharekawa Marae, but not including Whakatīwai Regional Park. To include the park I would have to add 7010810 which is 45.40 square km. I think limiting it to 7010813 is more reasonable.
I'll do Pakiri and Whakatīwai this afternoon. If you think it is still appropriate to add Woodhill, let me know.-gadfium 02:46, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
Thank you! That's a shame about Woodhill being so difficult to define - it's the only locality with a school in the Auckland Region that doesn't have a population statistic. --Prosperosity (talk) 04:11, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – February 2024

News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2024).

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  • An RfC about increasing the inactivity requirement for Interface administrators is open for feedback.

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  • Pages that use the JSON contentmodel will now use tabs instead of spaces for auto-indentation. This will significantly reduce the page size. (T326065)

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  • Following a motion, the Arbitration Committee adopted a new enforcement restriction on January 4, 2024, wherein the Committee may apply the 'Reliable source consensus-required restriction' to specified topic areas.
  • Community feedback is requested for a draft to replace the "Information for administrators processing requests" section at WP:AE.

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2022 Wellington protest

Where are you getting your information about the Wellington protest? I was there. There were between 10,000 and 20,000 protestors. I should know because we had to feed them all.
It is you spreading misinformation. Everything you have said is a lie. Of course mainstream media is going to share untruths. NZ media can not be used as credible information. I can share drone footage with you if you like. Then you can count all the protestors yourself! 43.252.67.13 (talk) 06:10, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
@43.252.67.13 Read the cited sources. If you think there is a problem with New Zealand mainstream media then that is a you problem. —Panamitsu (talk) 06:48, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – March 2024

News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2024).

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  • The mobile site history pages now use the same HTML as the desktop history pages. (T353388)

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RFA2024 update: no longer accepting new proposals in phase I

Hey there! This is to let you know that phase I of the 2024 requests for adminship (RfA) review is now no longer accepting new proposals. Lots of proposals remain open for discussion, and the current round of review looks to be on a good track towards making significant progress towards improving RfA's structure and environment. I'd like to give my heartfelt thanks to everyone who has given us their idea for change to make RfA better, and the same to everyone who has given the necessary feedback to improve those ideas. The following proposals remain open for discussion:

  • Proposal 2, initiated by HouseBlaster, provides for the addition of a text box at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship reminding all editors of our policies and enforcement mechanisms around decorum.
  • Proposals 3 and 3b, initiated by Barkeep49 and Usedtobecool, respectively, provide for trials of discussion-only periods at RfA. The first would add three extra discussion-only days to the beginning, while the second would convert the first two days to discussion-only.
  • Proposal 5, initiated by SilkTork, provides for a trial of RfAs without threaded discussion in the voting sections.
  • Proposals 6c and 6d, initiated by BilledMammal, provide for allowing users to be selected as provisional admins for a limited time through various concrete selection criteria and smaller-scale vetting.
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  • Proposals 12c, 21, and 21b, initiated by City of Silver, Ritchie333, and HouseBlaster, respectively, provide for reducing the discretionary zone, which currently extends from 65% to 75%. The first would reduce it 65%–70%, the second would reduce it to 50%–66%, and the third would reduce it to 60%–70%.
  • Proposal 13, initiated by Novem Lingaue, provides for periodic, privately balloted admin elections.
  • Proposal 14, initiated by Kusma, provides for the creation of some minimum suffrage requirements to cast a vote.
  • Proposals 16 and 16c, initiated by Thebiguglyalien and Soni, respectively, provide for community-based admin desysop procedures. 16 would desysop where consensus is established in favor at the administrators' noticeboard; 16c would allow a petition to force reconfirmation.
  • Proposal 16e, initiated by BilledMammal, would extend the recall procedures of 16 to bureaucrats.
  • Proposal 17, initiated by SchroCat, provides for "on-call" admins and 'crats to monitor RfAs for decorum.
  • Proposal 18, initiated by theleekycauldron, provides for lowering the RfB target from 85% to 75%.
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  • Proposal 25, initiated by Femke, provides for the requirement that nominees be extended-confirmed in addition to their nominators.
  • Proposal 27, initiated by WereSpielChequers, provides for the creation of a training course for admin hopefuls, as well as periodic retraining to keep admins from drifting out of sync with community norms.
  • Proposal 28, initiated by HouseBlaster, tightens restrictions on multi-part questions.

To read proposals that were closed as unsuccessful, please see Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I/Closed proposals. You are cordially invited once again to participate in the open discussions; when phase I ends, phase II will review the outcomes of trial proposals and refine the implementation details of other proposals. Another notification will be sent out when this phase begins, likely with the first successful close of a major proposal. Happy editing! theleekycauldron (talk • she/her), via:

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2a02:c7c::/32's block at AN

Hi Gadfium, I found 2a02:c7c::/32's block settings interesting enough to start a discussion about it; it's at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard § 2a02:c7c::/32 and your input would be welcome. I'm notifying everyone whose name appears in the block log as this is practically a review of a series of admin actions yours was a part of. I hope that, due to the amount of administrators who built the block to the current state, discussing this in a central location directly rather than asking everyone for input on their own talk page is okay. And perhaps there was a past discussion and this is completely unnecessary silliness of me; I apologize in advance if that's the case. Best regards, ~ ToBeFree (talk) 00:12, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

20 years since First edit day!

Thanks to both of you. I wouldn't have noticed the anniversary otherwise.-Gadfium (talk) 00:59, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
Congratulations indeed. Twenty years is rather steady! BTW, we missed you at the WikiCon; would have been great to catch up. Schwede66 05:00, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

Invitation to join the Twenty Year Society

Dear Gadfium/Archive 27,

I'd like to extend a cordial invitation to you to join the Twenty Year Society, an informal group for editors who've been participating in the Wikipedia project for twenty years or more. ​

Best regards, The Herald (Benison) (talk) 03:50, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

— The Herald (Benison) (talk) 03:50, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, but I'll pass.-Gadfium (talk) 03:56, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

Oban photos

Hi there. Regarding the removal of the apparent close duplicate photo of Oban in 1977. I would think that someone looking up Oban might actually appreciate a "then and now" pair of images. If having the images at the side unbalances the page layout would it be better to have them as a gallery at the end of the page instead? Cheers. Daveosaurus (talk) 08:39, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

Feel free to create a gallery. See WP:GALLERY for the policy on galleries, which implicitly suggests a gallery may be appropriate when there is not "space for images to be effectively presented adjacent to text".-Gadfium (talk) 08:45, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
Hi there. I haven't forgotten - I just haven't had a chance to do it yet. Will try to get to it some time in the next couple of weeks. Cheers. Daveosaurus (talk) 10:27, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – April 2024

News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2024).

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  • The Toolforge Grid Engine services have been shut down after the final migration process from Grid Engine to Kubernetes. (T313405)

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  • Editors are invited to sign up for The Core Contest, an initiative running from April 15 to May 31, which aims to improve vital and other core articles on Wikipedia.
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Catherine Wedd More Information

Hi, would you be able to provide you more information on Catherine Wedd about more about her family and early life? His brother Jeremy is Intellectually disabled and non-verbal. Finally what town she was born in? Villian Factman (talk) 07:44, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

I haven't been an editor of this article, or its talk page, unless I'm missing something.-Gadfium (talk) 09:02, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
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