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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Sol3 Mio albums

A tag has been placed on Category:Sol3 Mio albums indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself. Liz Read! Talk! 02:59, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

Liz, it's empty because one of our fellow admins moved a category without also recategorising the existing articles. I've tidied up; please feel free to trout the offending party for leaving a mess behind. Schwede66 03:35, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for fixing my error with this edit. [1] I try to keep pages refs, but occasionally miss a few, as I did here. 76.14.122.5 (talk) 02:33, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

Miraheze

Hi gadfium. We got cut off, but I'd like to continue our conversation:

See Comparison of wiki hosting services for some places which will host a wiki for you. I use Miraheze; it's free, no ads and uses MediaWiki.-gadfium 19:41, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
gadfium, does it allow wikilinks to work between your website and Wikipedia? If so, do red wikilinks work in the same way as here? -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 20:48, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
@Valjean:You can link to Wikipedia articles with [[wikipedia:Main Page]] but the link doesn't appear red if the page does not exist. It's similar to linking to a different language Wikipedia from here, e.g. mi:No such article does not appear red even though there is no such article on the Māori Wikipedia. Loading images from commons works just as it does here. I have no affiliation with Miraheze other than being one of their clients, and the wiki I have there is private.-gadfium 21:49, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
I'm just interested in any advice, recommendations, etc. Here a redlink appears if an article doesn't exist, IOW there is two-way communication. So Miraheze works one-way, but not the other. Are you happy with it, IOW would you recommend it? -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 01:49, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
@Valjean:It's free, doesn't add advertisements to your pages, allows either private or public wikis, and it runs a regularly updated version of MediaWiki. I don't know if there are any competitors. The site is occasionally a little bit slow. Yes, I recommend it, but I don't know what you want to use it for. If your use is for a public wiki, perhaps Fandom (website) would suit you, if it's collaborative non-fiction writing, perhaps Wikibooks. If you are willing to pay for service, that will open up options I haven't ever considered for myself.-gadfium 02:24, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
I am tentatively interested in using it as a private website, without others making edits to articles, but possibly keeping the talk page open for input. Can that be done? -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 02:42, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
@Valjean:I don't know. You can ask at https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Community_noticeboard -gadfium 02:50, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
Will do. Thanks a lot. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 03:30, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

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FAR for New Zealand national rugby union team

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ITN recognition for Anne Perry

On 14 April 2023, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Anne Perry, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. SpencerT•C 17:45, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

Thanks!

Kia ora e hoa. Thanks for your fixing up of Leask Bay. There's many interesting bays and landforms with local tidbits of history on Rakiura - I'm planning to go through some of them over the coming months and add pages where appropriate. I was wondering if you had any tips on creating pages of natural features? I tend to edit/create BLPs so some of the science-y stuff is a bit beyond me. Nā, Nauseous Man (talk) 05:43, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

When I create an article, I model it on one about a similar subject, so I get the correct infobox, section headings, categories etc. If you're really ambitious, look at some of our featured articles to get ideas for what you can include - although you will have to do a deep dive for sources for obscure topics. See WP:Featured articles#Geography and places.-gadfium 05:55, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
By 'deep dive' I mean sources such as those given at [2] and books you might find in University Libraries. WP:RX will help if you have a promising title but can't access it for free online.-gadfium 06:01, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

A Polite Request

There is a discussion going on at Talk:British royal family. Basically a request has been made to add Canadian Royal Family to the lead of British Royal Family. This discussion has been going on for 9 days. I think a consensus has been reached but because I've given my opinion that makes me a participant. We need a disinterested party to bring the discussion to a conclusion. Would you mind helping out? OrewaTel (talk) 21:41, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

@OrewaTel: Sorry, but this isn't a topic I have any significant knowledge about. I hadn't even heard of the Canadian Royal Family before. I appreciate you want someone who is disinterested, but there are people who are interested in dispute resolution who might be called on, and I'm not one of them.-gadfium 22:06, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
Thank you. You haven't heard of the Canadian Royal Family. The problem is that neither has anyone else. In any case the discussion will end all by itself sooner or later. I can wait. ☺️ OrewaTel (talk) 04:25, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

South Auckland demographics request

Kia ora! I'm currently working on improving the South Auckland page. When you have time, would you be able to update the demographics section of the page? Based on what I've found so far, the best definition of South Auckland seems to be the Māngere-Ōtāhuhu, Manurewa, Ōtara-Papatoetoe and Papakura local board areas. --Prosperosity (talk) 04:25, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

@Prosperosity: Done. I have kept the existing information, which is now partially redundant, and expanded the last table to include Papakura. You can merge the tables or delete the redundant parts as you see fit.-gadfium 05:01, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
Wonderful, thank you! --Prosperosity (talk) 19:02, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

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Sea lords

Hi, when you have a moment, please could you cast your eye over Sea Lord, a disambiguation page I've created, to see whether there are any potential violations of copyright. I noticed when creating a redirect page from "Sealord" that there have been issues in the past. Thanks. Meticulo (talk) 02:37, 13 May 2023 (UTC)

@Meticulo: The problem with the now-deleted Sealord article is that it was directly copied from the company's website. The disambiguation page you have created is unlikely to have any copyright violations. If you wrote each entry yourself, it will be fine. If you copied fragments from other articles on Wikipedia, it is best practice to note that in an edit summary or on the talk page. See Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia. If you copied substantial fragments from elsewhere on the web, there could be a copyright problem, but I do not think there is enough content in any single line of the disambiguation page to trigger this. However, I am not a lawyer or particularly knowledgeable about copyright matters, so if you have copied anything from the web look at Wikipedia:Copying text from other sources.-gadfium 02:56, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
Thanks Gadfium. I haven't copied any text directly, so the page should be okay. Meticulo (talk) 04:10, 13 May 2023 (UTC)

{{clear|left}}

Hadn't seen the "left" function before. Very useful! Schwede66 23:22, 1 June 2023 (UTC)

Botany demographics

Hello! Do you know if there is a statistical area that corresponds well to Botany? I've made a map of all of the locations I could find that described themselves as being in Botany, or were described by other sources as Botany. There's a few outliers (especially Elim, who have another school that's much closer to Botany!), and there's some overlap separated by usage (for the same area, residential places are Huntington Park or Golflands, commercial/religious places use Botany), but there's a clear area which is more Botany than other things. --Prosperosity (talk) 00:11, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

@Prosperosity: I don't think Botany corresponds at all well to SA2 statistical areas. It's a broad area south of Botany Downs, and when I tried to match the statistical areas and suburbs a couple of years ago I included most of it in Dannemora and other parts in Shamrock Park, Northpark, Huntington Park and Golflands, ie all the suburbs around the commercial area corresponding to the SA2 statistical area of Botany Central, which has no residential population. There is also the Botany electorate covering a larger area. I had hoped the new SA3 areas might cast light on how to map suburbs to statistical areas, but it doesn't have an area called Botany, and the area Dannemora is now quite a bit north of the 2018 SA2 areas called Dannemora North and South, corresponding to the suburb Shamrock Park. All these areas can be seen in the various subsections of "Statistical areas" in https://statsnz.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=6f49867abe464f86ac7526552fe19787. I also have used https://data.linz.govt.nz/layer/104830-fire-and-emergency-nz-localities/ as a guide to suburb locations.
Unfortunately this is not an area of Auckland that I know at all well. You may be able to find someone with better insight at the New Zealand noticeboard or at the Auckland talk page.-gadfium 02:07, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
Based on my placename survey, it corresponds pretty well to Botany Central (although in saying that, I've literally never heard of Redcastle, Armoy and Middlefield). Is it worth even having a demographic section when your population is zero (possibly just for the area data)? --Prosperosity (talk) 02:38, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
I don't add demographics sections when the population is in low single digits. All figures from Stats NZ are rounded to a multiple of three, so the accuracy of statistics in these cases is low. You can get the area from the arcgis map: it's 0.47 square km or 47 hectares.-gadfium 04:21, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

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Richard Chandler Assistance

Kia ora! I am the declared COI editor for New Zealand native Richard Chandler (businessman). I am reaching out to you as I saw your active editing of other NZ billionaires and would be grateful for your help here as well. There is a pending edit request posted and partially addressed that I would appreciate your assistance in completing. These updates and changes will improve the article's accuracy and relevance. With thanks, Rob6031 (talk) 00:35, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

@Rob6031: I have no particular interest in New Zealand billionaires but I do watchlist many articles to prevent vandalism. You may have seen my edits at List of New Zealanders by net worth or Graeme Hart, but I do not add content to those articles. Your request is likely to be considered in due course by volunteers who routinely deal with COI requests.-gadfium 02:11, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

Kākāpō Featured article review

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:New Zealand emigrants to Cyprus

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Pōhutukawa Coast demographics

Good afternoon! Would you be able to create a demographics section for the Pōhutukawa Coast? It should include Whitford, Beachlands, Maraetai and Umupuia (the coast as far as Duder Regional Park) and anything between, but not as far south as Brookby or Clevedon. --Prosperosity (talk) 03:54, 20 June 2023 (UTC)

@Prosperosity: Done. I've included the 2018 SA2 areas of Sunkist Bay, Te Puru and Maraetai, and the SA1 areas of 7007014 (Whitby and an area to its southwest - the 2023 SA1 areas identify Whitby much better but I don't have that census data yet), 7007086 (Duder Park and south almost to Brookby) and 7007024-7007025, 7007034-7007036 and 70007071 (covering the area between Whitford and Duder). If you want other SA1 areas included or some of these excluded, let me know.-gadfium 04:52, 20 June 2023 (UTC)
Wonderful, thank you! --Prosperosity (talk) 05:00, 20 June 2023 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – July 2023

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Mick Watson Views on Immigration

Hey there, just following up on my edit on the Mick Watson page. Is there any way that we can remove the 'views on immigration' content on his page? I get that his opinion was shared to a reputable publication, but my interpretation of the Wikipedia Guidelines relating to Biographies of living persons is that: since he is a relatively unknown person, this content shouldn't be on his page as it isn't materially relevant to his notability. Full disclosure, I'm his son so I have a personal interest in this edit. Thank you very much either way. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nathanlewis27 (talk • contribs) 04:33, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

@Nathanlewis27: As you're his son, you have a WP:Conflict of interest and should not be editing the page. You can make your case for removal of the content at the talk page, Talk:Mick Watson, or for greater attention, ask at Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard, where you'll get a response from people very used to dealing with similar issues.
Another possibility is that if your father has since changed his views and been published as saying so, we could include that in the article. Do not add this yourself, but post with a link to the source on the talk page so editors without a conflict of interest can evaluate what was said.-gadfium 04:42, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
Thank you very much for your help here, I really appreciate it! Nathanlewis27 (talk) 05:52, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

Noteworthy information about New Zealand Secondary schools

Hello! I saw you corrected me on my edit on the Kaiapoi High School page, and simply don't know why the deputy principal is not notable but the executive head teacher is? It seems like some pages about secondary schools in NZ have the "controversies" section which is considered noteworthy despite the fact it may ruins the school's reputation. My primary intreset on Wikipedia is to maintain articles related to secondary schools in NZ. Yvanyblog (talk) 11:03, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

There's an understanding that principals (or headmasters, etc) of secondary schools are sufficiently notable to be listed in the infobox of school articles, and often newspapers will report on a new principal being appointed to a school. Deputy principal appointments are not usually covered by newspapers, and while we do a reasonable job (not a perfect one) of keeping the principal field up to date in articles, there's much less chance of anyone not actually attending a given school of finding out that a deputy has changed. It becomes a maintenance burden for Wikipedia to keep the article up to date. In the case of Kaiapoi High School, it has four deputy principals, so I'm not sure why you only listed one. If despite this you still want to add deputies to school articles, then go ahead.
I'm not in favour of controversy sections. See WP:CSECTION for an essay (not policy) on them. I generally prefer to deal with problems in a school in a history section, where it can be balanced by more positive and neutral content. Unfortunately people tend to add the controversial content and not positive content other than advertising for the school. Dilworth School is an example of a school which could have expansion of its history section, and reduction of the Operation Beverly section, but it would be inappropriate to remove the Beverly content entirely.-gadfium 18:34, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

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Administrators' newsletter – September 2023

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Italics

Hello Gadfium, do you know why the title of Ernest Rutherford memorial is italicised? I've tried to remove it but am unsure why or how the italics came to be in the first place. Panamitsu (talk) 01:03, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

@Panamitsu: It uses {{Infobox artwork}} which includes {{Italic title}}. See the documentation for Infobox artwork for how to disable this.-gadfium 01:09, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
Italics may well be appropriate. MOS:VATITLE has the details, Panamitsu. Schwede66 02:37, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

Ronnie van Hout

Hi there Gadfilum, I see you did a bit of work on this page some time ago. I have just made some additions but I am pretty new to Wiki and use the visual editor. I wonder if you have the time you would mind having a quick look at the page and help with any serious blunders. cheers, Manymanydogs (talk) 08:18, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

@Manymanydogs: My involvement with Ronnie van Hout has been minor; it's on my watchlist, as are many thousands of New Zealand-related articles, but that's to keep an eye out for vandalism or unsourced additions. Your contributions look fine to me. If you want more detailed feedback, ask at WP:NZWNB.-gadfium 18:17, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
Oh, thanks for that. As I say I'm new to this so won't bother you again. cheers, Manymanydogs (talk) 20:11, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

Searching for someone

Hello!! I'm sorry if I am writing this in the wrong section, I have no idea how it works and I just created my account. I'm searching for someone and I thought that as an administrator, you could help me (if not its okay!!). On May 25th 2023 at 00:37, you banned someone for a year because they kept spamming links to external websites.

I don't know if you can see information about people, especially because it was months ago and idk if you can still find them. Here is the link where I see all the information :

https://mi.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:2A01:E0A:2AF:9660:4E4:1B59:8CC9:A66A

I'm trying to contact them because they wrote something on a french page and basically I want to know where they know this from. All I could find about them is that at some point they lived in La Rochelle in France, but that's it. I hope you can help and sorry for the long message!!!

Thank you in advance Lux964 (talk) 19:18, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

@Lux964: IPv6 addresses are usually allocated in blocks to an individual user and the actual address used differs in the last few digit clusters very frequently. That the address range is used by spammers on the Māori Wikipedia does not imply it is used maliciously on the French Wikipedia.
It is rather unlikely that you will be able to communicate with them through the IP address. I have no ability to find out anything about this IP address other than the basic information given by 'whois' which I think you have already found. You could perhaps ask at fr:Discussion:Rap-Tout about the government's response to the song.-gadfium 19:45, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
I know I can't talk to them with the IP address but I'm just trying to find some information about them like their Google account or anything like that. I thought about writing directly on the article but I don't think people actually read it, especially the discussion part (litteraly no one has ever talked here).
And I can't find other sources, or at least I didn't search hard enough.
But anyway thank you so much !! :)
It helps me a lot to know I should try something else Lux964 (talk) 20:27, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
@Lux964: It is at least worth trying on the article talk page. If you get no response there, you might try at fr:Discussion Projet:Politique française or fr:Wikipédia:Oracle or the English equivalent of the latter, Wikipedia:Reference desk/Humanities.-gadfium 20:58, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
Okay I will try that, also I'll try asking people I know if they remember anything.
Thank you so much for your time again, you reallly helped me!! Lux964 (talk) 19:34, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious
Five years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:05, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – September 2023

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  • An RfC is open regarding amending the paid-contribution disclosure policy to add the following text: Any administrator soliciting clients for paid Wikipedia-related consulting or advising services not covered by other paid-contribution rules must disclose all clients on their userpage.

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Sam Neil article

Greetings. I don't follow the logic of your reversal of "New Zealander" in this article. Only last night, on a TV program in Australia, Sam Neil consistently referred to himself as a New Zealander. And from the article link which you provided (and thanks for doing that), my reading of it is that the adjectival form is used for things from a country ("New Zealand cheese" for instance) but the demonym form is used for people (either in its plural or singular forms). So it seems correct to me that the demonym term is the more appropriate when referring to a person from New Zealand. I also don't know of any MOS principle which favours using adjectival terms over demonym terms for people in articles. Can you please clarify your reasoning for your edit. Thanks. Yahboo (talk) 04:39, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

@Yahboo: A demonym is a noun. You don't put two nouns together (unless they make a compound noun e.g. 'cat food'). It is entirely appropriate to say "Neil is a New Zealander", or "Neil is an actor", but when you want to say both things at once, you are modifying the noun "actor", and you need an adjective to do that, so "Neil is a New Zealand actor" is correct. For many countries, the demonym is the same as the adjective, e.g. American, Australian, German, which may be why many people don't understand the difference.-gadfium 05:18, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
Thanks for your explanation. It stills seems very odd to me but there you go. :-) Yahboo (talk) 04:06, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

Pōhutukawa Coast demographics

Kia ora Gadfium, I just realised that there were some missing communities in the Pōhutukawa Coast demographics section: Beachlands-Pine Harbour and Whitford. When you have time, could you add these in? --Prosperosity (talk) 20:56, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

@Prosperosity: Beachlands-Pine Harbour is the same as Sunkist Bay and Te Puru. Whitford was not defined as a rural settlement in 2018 although it is in 2023. It's 0.18 km2 of a larger SA1 area (1.2 km2) in the 2018 census, 7007014, which is included in the demographics. I've added a couple of notes to the table in Pōhutukawa Coast.-gadfium 22:16, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
@Gadfium: Thank you! I got a little confused as the Beachlands article lists a population of 7,770, and there was nothing close to that in the table. That makes sense! --Prosperosity (talk)

Administrators' newsletter – November 2023

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  • Eligible editors are invited to self-nominate themselves from 12 November 2023 until 21 November 2023 to stand in the 2023 Arbitration Committee elections.
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  • Following a motion, the contentious topic designation of Prem Rawat has been struck. Actions previously taken using this contentious topic designation are still in force.
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Invitation to an in-person meetup in Mohua / Golden Bay

Golden Bay Air are holding some seats for us until 21 November

Thinking about your summer break? Think about joining other Wikipedians and Wikimedians in Golden Bay / Mohua! Details are on the meetup page. There's heaps of interesting stuff to work on e.g. the oldest extant waka or New Zealand's oldest ongoing legal case. Or you may spend your time taking photos and then upload them.

Golden Bay is hard to get to and the airline flying into Tākaka uses small planes, so we are holding some seats from and to Wellington and we are offering attendees a $200 travel subsidy to help with costs.

Be in touch with Schwede66 if this event interests you and you'd like to discuss logistics. Schwede66 09:14, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

Thanks, but I doubt I'll come. I'm spending a couple of weeks in the South Island in early December. I do like Mohua / Golden Bay and have visited it several times, most recently in 2020.-gadfium 03:20, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
If your South Island travels go near Golden Bay, please be welcome to pop over the hill. Can provide accommodation without trouble. That said, I'll be in the North Island myself from 4 to 10 Dec inclusive. Come 11 December, I'd love to see you! Schwede66 06:54, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
I'm riding in a group, but if my ferry back to the North Island is delayed by more than a couple of days, I might take you up on that.-gadfium 08:03, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
Excellent. We have enough flat ground that we can accommodate a group, in case you carry tents. Schwede66 09:01, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

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Fitzherbert

Heads up, your last edit to Fitzherbert introduced some hard to read prose on the former and current stat areas. I’d just fix it, but I’m not 100% on what exactly you meant 😅 — HTGS (talk) 02:59, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing it out. The statistical areas changed for the 2023 Census, but we don't have the full data for the census yet. We do have total population figures for the statistical areas, and I'm trying to match the changed areas with the existing data from the 2018 Census. In some case, it isn't practical to do so and I've noted that the article can't have updated demographics until the 2023 data is published. For Fitzherbert, it was in a single statistical area and that has been split into two, and I got a bit tongue-tied (finger-tied?) overthinking what I might do with the article later. Looking again at it, it seems that the area of Fitzherbert suburb does occupy both the new statistical areas, and Poutoa (or Summerhill) isn't a separate suburb.-gadfium 03:21, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

"Internet sticks"

Before we had Internet access to our house, until a little over 10 years ago, we would go to the Four Square and buy these "Internet sticks", which would plug into the computer's USB port. They had a data limit until they ran out. Do you remember what these were called? I can't seem to find any mention of them anywhere. —Panamitsu (talk) 10:49, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

I've heard of them, but never used them, and don't know what they were called exactly. I got home dialup internet in the early 1990s, then moved to various forms of broadband, one of the earlier ones being a satellite dish pointed at the Auckland Sky Tower.-gadfium 17:14, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
I think we had a permanent one from Telecom (you paid a monthly fee) and they were called T-stick. Schwede66 21:36, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
Yes that's it! —Panamitsu (talk) 21:41, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
Here's a review and here's an article: GSM modem Schwede66 21:55, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
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