User talk:All Hallow's Wraith/Archive 2

Editing

I don't know if I've ever told you this, but in case I haven't, you're one of the handful of editors whose name comes up on my watchlist for whom I never bother to check the edits. I don't doubt them. Wildhartlivie (talk) 05:07, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

readded categories to Kate DiCamillo

Per this, I have readded the categories to the above article. Unitanode 06:35, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

• If you don't mind, I'm going to research all the categories you're removing, as categorization can be truly helpful, so I want to make certain that if the categories are correct, they stay in the article. Unitanode 06:39, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

You're going so quickly, I am a bit overwhelmed. I'll try again, maybe, tomorrow. Unitanode 06:53, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Scarlett Johansson GAR notification

Scarlett Johansson has been nominated for a good article reassessment. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to good article quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status will be removed from the article. Reviewers' concerns are here.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 20:48, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Merge

A merge has been proposed for 25/8, you are welcome add your position here • S • C • A • R • C • E • 00:03, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Tommy Jane

Well I can't address very much on his mother's side, she looks Irish to me. Meyerj (talk) 19:15, 21 August 2009 (UTC) Sorry I shouldn't have said it that way, Tom's mom is married to my cousin and I have known her since 1968. I would question the connection to the clame about heritage and religion. Meyerj (talk) 23:31, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Vince Vaughn/Amanda Plummer/Canadian Citizens

I have restored the assignation of 'Canadian-American' to the subject's entry, as it is factual. You appear to have no basis for deleting them in the first place, other than your speculative comment "they may not even be aware of it". That seems akin to saying that if their car had a flat tire that they were not aware of, the car does not have a flat tire. I don't mean to be condescending in any way, but I'm not clear on what your logic is in this instance.

The awareness, or lack thereof of their citizenship status, is not relevant. They are Canadian citizens by law, and are designated as such.

It is an odd situation being retroactively given citizenship that you may not have even desired, but that is the reality of it.

You seem to be placing your opinion/assessment of their nationality above what is clearly factual.

If you would like to discuss this matter, I will be willing to do so, rather than have us engage in a futile edit war. I would like to hear your thoughts and rationale behind this. Thank you. (Yakofujimato (talk) 18:13, 23 August 2009 (UTC))

I still am baffled by this. Vaughn, Plummer, and Duane Johnson are all Canadian citizens now because of changes in immigration law that automatically and retroactively restore citizenship to them. There is no question that they are now Canadian citizens, it's factual, but we can't say this?? We have to wait until they publicly declare themselves to be? What if they have never publicly declared themselves to be born in the United States? Should we delete their citizenship status until they have publicly acknowledged their citizenship?

Wikipedia has improved incredibly in the past few years, but when rigid adherence to guidelines supersede common sense, then maybe the rules should be looked at again.

I know you are correct about the guidelines, but it's a bit vexing when you can't put what is clearly factual on Vince Vaughn's entry, but if a semi-obscure band records an original song called 'Amanda Plummer' they can sleaze their way onto her entry, and get free advertising.

Again, I know you are probably correct here, and I appreciate that you took the time to respond to me. I'm just bringing up some points. Thank you. (Yakofujimato (talk) 22:32, 10 October 2009 (UTC))

Christoph Waltz

Note, that the mainpost.de-article (25. Mai 2009) you added as a reference to Christoph Waltz was in part word for word taken from the German wiki-entry (14. Mai 2009), as you can see [here] ("machte Waltz als frustrierter Romanautor Charly auf sich aufmerksam"). So I doubt that this is an ideal source to add, as it is clearly not the primary source. Jeune (talk) 15:20, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

In case you didn't read my reply or think the source I mentioned is not reliable, here's one referring to Waltz' parents from the munzinger archive, that journalists use for research. http://www.munzinger.de/search/portrait/Christoph+Waltz/0/24560.html (The main-post.de reference you added has been used in two new entries (Greek and Japanese) on Waltz in the meantime by simply copying the English content.) Also, Waltz' birtname is not Christopher, it's Christoph. You won't find an official source on Waltz using Christopher. Christopher is a rather uncommon first name in German-speaking countries, especially for people born in the 1950s. Feel free to contact me for any questions. Jeune (talk) 12:02, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

There you go.

I cleaned up all the weirdness by the IP address for ya. =) - Zhang He (talk) 22:43, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

John Travolta

Hi. I just wanted to let you know that I returned the BLP fact template to the Travolta article. The article does have 20 sources, but those are limited to only two sections, plus one reference in all the rest of the article. That leaves 4 complete sections unreferenced (except for one reference for one sentence). I don't think it is a matter of how many references are present in an article as much as it is how much content is unsourced. In this case, I believe the article needs the banner instead of sticking "unreferenced section" in over half the article. Wildhartlivie (talk) 02:15, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Removing place of birth

You've removed the place of birth from at least two bios I'm watching using a link to a generic MOS bio link. I'm not questioning your edits, but it would be helpful to have the specific link so I won't make this error again when I edit bios. Flowanda | Talk 04:19, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification and your kindness...totally missed that part in MOS. Flowanda | Talk 05:49, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Dominick Dunne

Hello, I saw your request about his middle name. I'll look into it. He was, incidentally, known as 'Nicky' throughout his childhood. Regards, MarmadukePercy (talk) 00:21, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Leighton Meester

Hiya, you may be interested in giving some input at WP:BLP/N#Leighton Meester. Regards, Siawase (talk) 15:36, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Lifetime

I noticed when editing you recently added the template {{Lifetime}} to an article, replacing DEFAULTSORT or categories in the process. While the template {{Lifetime}} is a useful short-cut when setting up biographies it is not generally considered wise to replace existing categories or DEFAULTSORT for a number of reasons. The chief amongst them are that the template hides information from editors and automatic processes or requires additional knowledge to understand. This is only a minor point, many thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia, please keep it up! Regards, Magioladitis (talk)

Maybe something happened while you reverted an edit. Check this here. No big deal. Have a nice day/night! -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:20, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Robert Ginty

Hi, I am not sure why you rv the category "Irish Americans" for Ginty. As the son of "Elsie M. (née O'Hara), a government worker, and Michael Joseph Ginty", he was, in fact, unquestionably of Irish descent. Yours, Rms125a@hotmail.com (talk) 12:03, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

OK. Moving on to something else, I was wondering if you are confidently knowledgeable as to what exactly Wikipedia's policy is on using MySpace pages as external links or sources for articles. Could you let me know. Thanks. Rms125a@hotmail.com (talk) 21:56, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Farrah Fawcett

Hi , Several days ago I began the GA review for Farrah Fawcett and left some comments at Talk:Farrah Fawcett/GA1. However another user has commented that the article is not ready for the nomination and that he would personally work on it. If you still have an interest in the article being promoted to GA status, I would most appreciate a response to those comments. Thank you! --Vinay84 (talk) 06:06, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Demi Moore's birth name

Hey. If you have a minute, take a look here Talk:Demi_Moore#Demi_is_not_short_for_Demetria. I am going to change the article again with her reply as a reference, but would appreciate a comment before doing so. Thanks. Erzsébet Báthory_{(talk|contr.)} 19:38, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

barnstar awarded

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Isla Fisher

I have some doubts about your use of WP:MOSBIO for the above actress. Have put my points on the discussion page for her Talk:Isla_Fisher#Ethnicity would be helpful to have your input —Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.254.218.38 (talk) 14:46, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Holt McCallany

I wikified the Holt McCallany page and put it on my watchlist. Lots of POV and cruft rv. Could you keep an eye out in case anyone in his fan club tries to put back words like "intense, handsome actor", etc. in case I miss it. I know you are always on the lookout for WP:POV and WP:CRUFT. Thanks. Rms125a@hotmail.com (talk) 22:56, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. Rms125a@hotmail.com (talk) 23:06, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Yes, thanks a lot. I fixed it. Take a look and see for yourself. Feel free to further fix as needed. Rms125a@hotmail.com (talk) 03:56, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Birthplace

I think that MOS:BIO has been changed on you -- unless I'm incorrect (possible -- just tell me if I am), birthplace is fine in the lead.--Epeefleche (talk) 01:04, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Actually, I believe its the other way. It used to be in there, but there was no longer consensus support, so that language was deleted because that is not the consensus view. (the idea that it was more important that person x was born on a certain month and day was more important than their country of origing always struck me as odd in any event).--Epeefleche (talk) 01:10, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Tx -- I responded there, and invited a couple of involved editors to double-check my view and respond if they disagree.--Epeefleche (talk) 01:27, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Thank you

I saw your edit to Lisa Edelstein. thank you for the link in the edit summary to wp:mosbio. I didn't know that particular rule about not placing ethnicity in the lede. Debresser (talk) 15:24, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

She's at it again

Special:Contributions/Priscila Herig -- Zsero (talk) 10:27, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

...and that's four. -- Zsero (talk) 10:37, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Twilight-related edits

Thanks for cleaning up so many of the Twilight actors' pages! You're awesome. Andrea (talk) 17:32, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Linespace & stub templates

In response to your edit here, where you removed the linespace between the stub template and the categories: please note that Wikipedia:LAYOUT#Standard appendices and footers specifically states that "the first stub template should be preceded by two blank lines". This actually improves the formatting, as opposed to your edit, which scrunches things together. If you'd bothered to check the page history (edit summary: "extra linespace before stub template per WP:LAYOUT"), you might have learned this for yourself. --212.139.103.166 (talk) 05:44, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Charlie Watts's ethnicity

hello All Hallow's Wraith - i've noticed your patient persistence in undoing the recurring categorization of Charlie as an English Jew, and just wanted to make sure you'd duly noted this little discussion on the talk page. he has indeed self-identified as a Jew a couple of times. i'm still not actively interested enough to go tracking the refs down, or to participate in the categorization/decategorization "ping pong", but ... well, there it is. Sssoul (talk) 10:06, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Van Morrison

Not sure why you removed Morrison's birthplace citing WP:MOSBIO as it states: "The opening paragraph should have:... 3. Nationality & ethnicity..." --NeilN ^{talk to me} 00:28, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

I randomly looked at five bio's in the Music section of Wikipedia:Featured articles. All of them mentioned the subject's nationality in the opening sentence. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 00:33, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Ok, I've tweaked the opening sentence. Cheers! --NeilN ^{talk to me} 00:39, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Annalee Newitz

Apparently she "likes to call herself "biethnic" because her father is Jewish and her mother is a white Southerner and former Methodist."[1]. Worth adding? Fences&Windows 23:08, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Unreferenced BLPs

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Ben Nelson

Just a word to let you know that your recent edit of Ben Nelson was appreciated. The form "Jones is the son of Mary Smith and Joe Jones" is irritatingly confusing—was Mary married to Joe? Did she keep her maiden name? Unfortunately, it's used in most articles on US Congressmen that I've looked at; and it's surprisingly difficult to find a good source that states explicitly that the mother used the name Mary Jones. I personally prefer the construction "Mary (Smith) Jones" to "(née Smith)", but that's a matter of taste.

--Ammodramus (talk) 21:52, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Final discussion for Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Biographies of living people

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{{imdb}} question

Hi there. I really have no idea where to ask this, so I have come to you. I have noticed you shortening the {{imdb}} code, something that I have also done in the past. Recently, though, I had a series of pages show up in my watch where the editor was "updating" to the reverse. [2], [3], [4], [5], and this one, which you changed one of the 2 links on the page again: [6] --> [7]. When working on various pages, I haven't touched the {{imdb}} since then because I was just confused. Am I missing something here as to why some use {{imdb name}} instead? Sorry to bother you, but I was hoping you could help. Thanks. --Logical Fuzz (talk) 11:12, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Preferred styling for musician articles

It is not specified in the WP:WikiProject Musicians that articles shall have a life and career section. However, looking at three featured articles on musicians, I noted the following:

• Celine Dion

  First heading is "Life and music career", with subheadings

  Mariah Carey

  First heading is "Life and music career", with subheadings

  Aaliyah

  First heading is "Life and career", with subheadings

Even the article on The Beatles starts with a history section with subheadings. In that case, the subheadings go two layers down, not one!

So, it is not codified that the articles be arranged that way, but featured articles on musicians are, and featured articles are good templates to use for other related articles. Accordingly, it's the de facto preferred style for musician biographies. —C.Fred (talk) 16:57, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Tagline

Thanks for notifying. Am not too concerned, but have commented on the RFC page. --Deryck C. 22:27, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Why remove "empty" reference sections from articles that will require them?

Is there a reason why you are removing "empty" reference sections? http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nick_Swardson&diff=prev&oldid=361836200] WP:V requires that the section will need to exist. Active Banana (talk) 22:42, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

I would suggest that the fact that "they look bad and/or strange (i.e. a section named "References" with nothing in it) " is an entirely appropriate look for an article that doesnt have any references? If it causes the reader to pause and think "something's wrong" - is that not a good thing when we have content that we cannot with any degree of assurance show is valid? I think its better to have a reader have concerns about the content they have gotten than to go away with a mistaken belief that everything within Wikipedia is true. No?Active Banana (talk) 22:54, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Avril Lavigne

Saw you tried starting a discussion on her religious background a while ago. If you'd like to throw in a word, I've opened up a similar discussion here: Talk:Avril_Lavigne#Religion. Thanks. – Kerαunoςcopia^◁_galaxies 23:29, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Selena

If we could figure out what her mother's other half is that would probably be a better fit. ★Dasani★ 19:28, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

California and Texas have more Hispanics and Asians than English so I think you could put that. ★Dasani★ 19:55, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

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Helena Bonham Carter's maternal grandfather

Hi, I am a bit confused as to why you reverted my edit on this. Is it really more notable to be an ambassador than to save thousands of people from the Holocaust? I am not sure what you meant when you said the previous edit was more accurate. Jewish is not a nationality, it is a religion. I can't see that it is accurate to describe someone as being of "half Spanish and half Jewish" ancestry. Does this mean that no Jews in Spain are to be taken as fully Spanish? Similarly, would this mean that Tiger Woods is best described as being of "half American and half Buddhist" ancestry? It was this error in the original version that motivated my edit. Boxter1977 (talk) 13:03, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

I appreciate your conciliatory approach, Wraith. I do think it would be salient to mention that he is of Jewish extraction, particularly in light of what he did for the French Jews. To me, it's relatively insignificant that he was a Minister-Counsellor in DC, but I have no argument with leaving that in. I am a little uncomfortable with "half Jewish ancestry" as I would argue that Judaism is a religion and only a quasi ethnicity. But that is another story. I can't think of a better phrasing than your suggestion, so if you are happy, let's go with that. Would you like to do the change, or shall I? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Boxter1977 (talk • contribs) 02:49, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

I have thought about this further, and discussed it with others. What do you think of "Jewish ancestry" or "Jewish extraction"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Boxter1977 (talk • contribs) 09:03, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

I cited the category in the discussion

Hey, I give you the brown muddy barnstar for not reading the discussions.

If you had in the case of judge feldman, you would have seen that not only did I cite the wsj article which says he converted to christianity from judaism, I asked, what is the proper way to cite that?

Since you removed it, but since I assume good behavior on your part as all wikipedians do, I am asking you to restore it ASAP. Perhaps you could better the article up, by taking the cite I placed in the discussion and properly placing it in the article.

Best wishes, and try to keep up with the discussions in the future —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.76.64.15 (talk) 21:25, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Drake (entertainer)

As stated in the article: "Graham's father is an African American from Memphis, Tennessee, while Graham's mother is a white Jewish Canadian (Graham attended a Jewish day school and had a Bar Mitzvah).[8][9][10]. Makes him half caucasian which in case you didn't know means white. Red Flag on the Right Side 06:42, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

The difference is Obama looks black and if you see Drake, he looks white. The first time I saw him was in the Every Girl music video and was like wtf when I heard him say the N-Word everyone I talk to is surprised that he's black cause he looks way more white than black but yet any category that says African American gets to stay. Double standered much? Red Flag on the Right Side 06:51, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Would you like rollback?

Just wonderin'. If you do, I'll gladly grant it. Best, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 23:41, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

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South African?

Sorry, I got confused and thought I was editing a different article. Was about to revert it myself when you did. Oops... Yworo (talk) 00:19, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your note

Hello All Hallow's Wraith. Thank you for your note. Those that were in favor of the merge never answered that question. All they kept saying was that the filmproject did not own the infobox. POV edit wars are a hassle and the potential for them has returned with the person infobox. I am not sure how to proceed. I mean we may not own the box but our consensus over those POV items is still in place. It might be worth it to post on the "filmproject" or the "Actor and Filmmaker project" talk pages to ask what the next step is. Cheers and happy editing (otherwise :->) MarnetteD | Talk 15:35, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

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Lily Cole birthdate

What is your source for Lily Cole's birthday? You recently reverted an edit with the summary "rv incorrect change".... how do you know it's incorrect? Dlabtot (talk) 02:52, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Jordan Long et al

Hey All Hallow's, Tonight one of the pages on my watchlist Matthew Vaughn was vandalised and reverted by another editor. The Vandal (an IP) attempted to replace a genuine individual from the article with Jordan Long's name. Taking a look at Jordan's Article it quickly became clear he has little if any notability and an AFD may reasonable. However I also noticed that nearly all pages connected with the Dutch Elm Conservatoire suffer from notability issues with only Renton Skinner having reasonable notability and even then only for his work on Shooting Stars.

This is compounded with all of these articles having significant COI issues with Stephen Evans having written many of them and other accounts that look like Sockpuppets making further edits down the line. If anything I would say the whole thing is orchestrated by United Artists Agents but proving that may be difficult.

Anyway as I respect your editing from our discussions on Isla Fisher and since you have some edits on Justin's articles I wondered if you could take a look and give me an honest opinion of whether anything needs done here the list of affected articles I've discovered so far is:

• Jordan_Long
• Dutch Elm Conservatoire
• Rufus_Jones_(comedian)
• Rufus_Jones_(actor)
• Jim_Field_Smith
• Stephen_Evans_(actor)
• She's Out of My League
• Renton_Skinner - as I said probably notable enough but needs rewritten.
• The_Benders
• Marlon_Brando's_Corset
• Idiotlamp_Productions
• Petra_Massey
• Spymonkey - possibly notable
• Emma_Cunniffe
• Ben_Willbond
• James_Rawlings
• Alexander_Kirk
• Colin_Hoult - possibly salvageable article

The Editors who seem to have a COI in this matter

• Rstphenevans - Probably Stephen Evans
• Jumpup1
• SusieQ
• 86.149.69.211
• 86.139.237.25
• 195.112.27.46
• 172.141.46.146
• 88.202.251.119
• 81.152.248.149
• 86.168.218.181
• Ballhammer - Probably Jim Field Smith

That's all I've got so far, though spending more time on this may reveal the problem to be even wider than this. So any feedback appreciated. Cheers, Stuart —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stuart.Jamieson (talk • contribs) 00:25, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Amend article Corbin Bleu

Hello sir, possible service, see the article Corbin Bleu, the article is not complete, but to see this version good. look : http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Corbin_Bleu&oldid=388531348, possible to retrieve this version please, there is a difference between them. Good luck my friend . --2.90.97.88 (talk) 11:49, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

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Nicki Minaj

Per this edit [8] I was wondering if you would please elaborate on why Ms. Minaj's birthplace should/must go first in the article. Thanks, Shearonink (talk) 01:27, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

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On today Wed 17 November on Wendy Williams (media personality) daytime tv talkshow The Wendy Williams Show Nicki just said she was born in Trinidad. She came to NY, USA when she was 4. Could you add that? 69.140.210.255 (talk) 16:57, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

vernon/noah in Oprah Winfrey page

I am writing you since you made multiple recent edits to Oprah Winfrey. In the intro it says :
Sent to live with the man she calls her father, a barber in Tennessee, Winfrey landed a job in radio while still in high school and began co-anchoring the local evening news at the age of 19. .
Why does it say this? O's mom Vernita Lee nor Oprah have ever responded to Noah Robinson's claims. Noah hasn't given blood for a DNA test. Im surprised Noah is even mentioned since I always read that rumours can't be on wikipedia. I think the intro should be changed. BUt leave Noah in the detialed 'early life' section. Thank You. 69.140.210.255 (talk) 16:53, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

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Birthdate

I note at Talk:Helen Mirren that you have access to ancestry.com (I am too poor to afford the exorbitant monthly fee). Could you do me a huge favour and look up Corrinne Eleanor Wicks (Cheltenham, Gloucester) circa 1965 - 1968 for me. There is a very minor edit war developing over the date and there are conflicting dates in internet references. I have a feeling the latest IP to pipe up is Wickes herself (just a gut feeling) ... but it needs settling properly from the Birth and Death Register. Hope you can help. Ta 21st CENTURY GREENSTUFF 15:22, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

AfDs

Hi. As you just participated in discussions on a closely related topic (also a current AfD re a Jewish list), which may raise some of the same issues, I'm simply mentioning that the following are currently ongoing: AfDs re lists of Jewish Nobel laureates, entertainers, inventors, actors, cartoonists, and heavy metal musicians. Best.--Epeefleche (talk) 08:24, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Good find

Hi, I'm watching your edits right now at Cher and your finding the info on her birth name is really appreciate. I just wanted to say thank you. --CrohnieGal^Talk 13:13, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Ok, what do you think about this - http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0251986/bio ...."Is of Polish descent." btw. "As for his aunt in the other article, who knows if she's event a blood relative?" He travelled half way around the world to meet strange woman? Aunt = family. For centuries, Poland was home to the largest and most significant Jewish community in the world and as the result of the dynastic union between Poland and Lithuania in 1386, Ukraine came under Polish rule. Perhaps the safest thing we can say about J.Eisenberg is that he is a citizen of the United States of Polish and Ukrainian descent. Michael Portman

Merry, merry

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Jack Warden

Hi - may I ask why are you so sure that the Guardian source is incorrect? The 1958 article that's referenced is not available for verification, so I don;'t actually know what it says, but assuming it says that his ancestry was PA Dutch, why are you certain that it is more reliable than the Guardian? And if you check IMDb now, it has a rather extensive discussion of his Jewish roots - are you sure that's incorrect? Would appreciate some sourcing. Thanks Tvoz/talk 07:00, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your response - see my talk for my reply. Tvoz/talk 20:00, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Karl Malden's bio

I suppose you think it is alright to ignore discussion that is ongoing for this issue of calling Karl Malden a "Serbian American." Either that or you did not notice that such an issue exists on the Talk Page at Talk:Karl_Malden#Karl_Malden_is_a_Serbian_American. Well it does and is currently being discussed between myself and Monkeyzpop (the last editor to revert the change to "Serbian American"). We have been exchanging ideas and viewpoints over our individual talk pages. However, as it was not yet resolved, I thought there should have been a pause in editing. I guess you decided to go ahead with your reversion anyway.

I am being the "Devil's advocate" on this issue, because I did not see anyone else stepping up to the plate. I have seen a lot of biographies where the ethnicity is a matter of pride, not notability, and warrants being inserted in the opening paragraph. I would be interested in changing the rule that you keep referring to, because I think it is discriminatory, as it unfairly sets the bar too high for someone to be considered a Serbian American, or from any other hyphenated ethnic group.

I will not protest your latest reversion, because I see that you are set in your ways and would not be moved by any dissenting opinion. My best way of resolving this would be to submit a change in the policy itself, which I fear is built on ignorance of what it means to someone to be of dual ethnicity. --Skol fir (talk) 06:20, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

companies.uk

Hi, do you think this website is reliable enough to claim a middle name? It is only used on one other BLP article - also to support another middle name. Off2riorob (talk) 14:56, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Porter - your probably right, I pulled it back out so the yellow badgers could see it and that it might get them thinking, mothers from Trinidad...? I was wondering, where is the site you checked his birth details on, have you got a link? Off2riorob (talk) 21:22, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

That is interesting, if I wanted to find a friend can you do searches for people in the uk? Off2riorob (talk) 21:41, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

I was considering a family member but its a bit personal so I will give a little more consideration and perhaps email you, many thanks for the offer. Off2riorob (talk) 21:45, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

I mailed you a question regarding this discussion. Off2riorob (talk) 00:12, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Sina Berlinski

I have just proposed Sina Berlinski for deletion. She seems to be mainly notable for her husband, not herself. The information on her could be covered in his article. Jaque Hammer (talk) 08:16, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

American-British

Further to the discussion on the Andrew Garfield talk page I would like to add I agree with you in the usage of the term American-British and have used it myself in other articles, including Zoë Wanamaker where I changed it to such and it was roundly accepted. Unfortunately it seems that some editors are unable to accept terms that they are not familiar with even though it perfectly describes the subject, e.g. a Russian-born American citizen is referred to as a Russian-American and Andrew Garfield, who is an American-born Briton, is American-British. Please let me know if you meet any resistance on this issue in any other articles and I will be happy to make a contribution to the relevant talk page. Thanks! Zarcadia (talk) 23:41, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Zac Efron

While it may be a bit of a "disappointment", it's true that only Efron's paternal grandfather was Jewish. Having dug around in genealogy, I can tell you that the family tree here is correct (as you can see, his grandfather was definitely Jewish; his grandmother was of German and Anglo descent). The only time Efron has spoken about his ancestry, as far as I know, is when Andrew Goldman of Details magazine asked him about it; while he didn't include it in the interview, he did twit what Zac said (I mentioned this just now on his talk page, too). It looks like Zac's publicist just tells people he is "not Jewish" when asked, and doesn't bother going into the details about his Jewish grandfather, and so on (the misprint in a magazine thing he mentions is probably referring to some of the sources we use). Luckily, though, there's a "new" Zac Efron-type actor around who is definitely fully Jewish. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 22:32, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks - I was reverting to make sure the content matched the cited sources (Wiki is following verifiability not truth). As for Jewishness, I'm 1/8 Jewish descent (my mother is of 1/4 Jewish descent but from a Catholic family), so I'm very interested in the topic of Jewish descent and culture. But I don't see "being fully Jewish" as more desirable than being a mix. :) Avaya1 (talk) 19:03, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

RE: Scooter Braun

Hi,

Recently you made some edits to the article Scooter Braun, and I wanted to know the reasoning behind them. There was nothing in the edit summaries. Thanks Bped1985 (talk) 00:33, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Did I ever say that the edits were controversial? All I wanted was a reason. It doesn't hurt to put those reasons in the edit summary. Bped1985 (talk) 00:41, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Joel Wyler

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Wikipedia:Categorization/Ethnicity, gender, religion and sexuality

No, you did not violate 3RR. Neither did William. This shouldn't be at 3RR in the first place, IMO.

I do however want to draw your attention to something in this. The paragraph you are attempting to remove reads as follows:

Inclusion must be specifically relevant to at least one of the subject's notable activities and an essential part of that activity, but is not required to be an exclusive interest. Moreover, inclusion is not transitive to any other activity. (For example: a notable LGBT activist is not automatically included in a corresponding LGBT musician category, unless also notable for one or more LGBT-related music compositions or performances.)

Let's now look at this difference from July 25, 2009.

Inclusion must be specifically relevant to at least one of the subject's notable activities and an essential part of that activity, but is not required to be an exclusive interest. Moreover, inclusion is not transitive to any other activity. (For example: a notable LGBT activist is not automatically included in a corresponding LGBT musician category, unless also notable for one or more LGBT-related music compositions or performances.)

To summarize, the paragraph you are attempting to remove has existed in the guideline for at least 21 months. With such a long-standing guideline, you must gain consensus to remove it, not the other way around. You did not have that consensus; failure of others to comment on your post doesn't mean you have a consensus. As Jimbo would say, you were bold in making the change and this is a good thing; however, in this case you did not have consensus to make a change to a long-standing guideline within Wikipedia. You ought to achieve that consensus first; after that, and only after that, you can remove it. CycloneGU (talk) 06:29, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

"To summarize, the paragraph you are attempting to remove has existed in the guideline for at least 21 months. With such a long-standing guideline, you must gain consensus to remove it, not the other way around"

You could look at it that way. On the other hand, there are a few things to consider. First, how long is long enough? I deleted this part from the guideline on December 23, 2010 (after bringing it up on talk). No one undeleted it until February 27, 2011 (that would be Simpson). So how long is enough to "seal the deal"? Isn't two months long enough as well? Second, that's a very rarely-visited page. Its peak in the last month was 25 visitors - today, coincidentally. If Simpson hadn't come back to Wikipedia, it's entirely possibly it never would have been reverted. If a single editor makes a policy addition on a small page that almost no one visits, surely all it takes is a single editor to roll back those policy changes? (I should add that I agree with "failure of others to comment on your post doesn't mean you have a consensus". The issue is that this is true for Simpson's original proposal as well - no one commented on it or agreed with it on the discussion page). All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 06:45, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

First, per the notice in my userspace, please keep the discussion here. I was watching here for a post and didn't see the new message alert down here.

Second, your argument makes about as much sense as me adding "All submissions under this guideline must be approved by a hive of bees. If they disapprove, the contributor will be stung" to the page. What I mean is just because two months go by doesn't mean that whatever change you made is irrevocably set in stone. The point is that regardless of how frequently the page is visited, you should have sought out an opinion from other editors before making the change you did. William came back to the page to find a change made and reverted it because you did not have consensus. The guideline has been used on Wikipedia for a long time for creating and organizing categories. Unless there is a good reason to change it, it doesn't need to be changed. Do you have a reason it needs to be changed that might carry weight, or is this an attempt to put your POV into the guideline? I mean, I could put in the beehive bit, but six months from now someone will come along, shake his head, and remove it. I'd feel wronged for not allowing a herd of bees to be involved and complain like you did. Does that make it correct?

I presume good faith, I just want to understand why the change is necessary. CycloneGU (talk) 07:43, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

"What I mean is just because two months go by doesn't mean that whatever change you meant is irrevocably set in stone. The point is that regardless of how frequently the page is visited, you should have sought out an opinion from other editors before making the change you did".

I agree with the above statement. But it can just as easily apply to William A Simpson's original addition to the article. That's my point. Just because over a year went by doesn't mean William Simpson's addition is set in stone, considering he added it by a consensus of one. Your "bees" example is the exact scenario that's transpired here with his original addition, except with a slightly larger timeframe. That being a year and a half wouldn't make the "bee" addition anymore right.

I don't know that my motivation is really relevant to the main consensus/no consensus argument. But I have no problem with explaining it. As I understand it, under the current guideline, 99% of the people in Category:American people of Finnish descent wouldn't be listed there because being a Finnish-American is almost never part of why someone is notable. In another example, Jason Derülo wouldn't be categorized as African-American in any way unless it was somehow demonstrated that this is notable to any of his songs? Does that make any sense? Why should editors waste time "demonstrating" this, and where would they go about making it? It seems pretty obvious and verifiable that's he's African-American and a musician. That should be enough. He's also listed under Category:American people of Haitian descent - is this notable to his work? Not as far as I can tell. Yet he's obviously one of the most prominent Americans of Haitian descent. So if this category were to exist at all (that's a different issue), why wouldn't he be in it?

Your statements seem to indicate that you think this policy bit has to do with the creation/deletion of categories. If that's the case, I have no problem with it. But as far as I can read it, the actual implementation of this would mean everything I describe above. I don't necessarily support the existence of these categories. But while we have them, we should get them factually right, and not enforce some bizarre criteria like the Finnish or Derülo examples above. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 07:56, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

Well, the main point I am trying to make (before I go to bed for the evening, it's late beyond late now) is that instead of just making a change and getting into a situation where you're having a perceived edit war (trust me, that's what it would appear as), you'd be better off trying to come to an agreement/compromise of some sort as to what should be there. Just removing something isn't going to solve the problem. Leave it for now, talk to people - including William - after a little time (say 24 hours) has passed, and indicate why you think it should be removed. I know nothing about the guideline in question other than what's on my screen so I would not feel right making changes to it that are not obvious reverts of vandalism (or correction of spelling mistakes...I'm good at that). But you and he have your opinions on it, and it sounds like there is still some ground to cover. Take a break, kick back and read a book or play a game on Facebook or something (I do), then come back and attempt a civilized discussion. He very well may agree that a rewording can be done (I don't know if you can convince him of a removal), and thus additional work previously based on that guideline you can work together to change. Just removing it without discussion does nothing more than fuel feuds. You never know, you two could be buddies when this is all done. =) NEway, I'm off to bed. G'nite. CycloneGU (talk) 08:06, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

Maybe you should join the discussion. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 22:40, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

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Kreizberg - Jewish

I saw your removed the 2 categories from this article. It's typically hard to find documented proof of many Jewish individuals because they don't talk about it and it isn't an issue in their lives. in the case of Kreizberg, my 2 pieces of evidence are this interview with his brother:

• Anne Midgette, "For a Russian Masterpiece, A Russian-Born Maestro" New York Times, Jan. 22, 2004.. In this article his brother talks about being Jewish - so it stands to reason that his brother would be also. Additionally, the article that cites him accompanying Mozart and Salieri - describes him immigrating as part of the first wave of Jewish immigrants from the Soviet Union. Is that enough for you? I doubt you could find something clearer for the majority of people tagged as Jewish on Wikipedia. -- kosboot (talk)

Ben Affleck

As someone who has made over 35 edits to Ben Affleck and has edited the page within the last year, I would like to call your attention to a discussion at Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2011_March_20#Template:Ben_Affleck.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 19:40, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

High Marx

OK, thanks. (Just ignore me...I'm in a rotten mood...) RMc (talk) 22:27, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

Joaquin Phoenix

Hi, you reverted the citation needed tag I added to the article on the basis that you think there is no doubt as to Joaquin Phoenix's parents names. However "Arlyn Sharon Dunetz" (legal birth name) was not legally renamed "Arlyn Phoenix" until after he was born, consequently the infobox is factually incorrect and would not match his birth certificate. I believe the facts do need an unambiguous source. Perhaps you could revert or add a source yourself? Thanks Fæ (talk) 19:24, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

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Carlos Slim

That was an excellent MOSBIO catch of the Lebanese ethnicity. I've been fighting vandalism, POV etc on this article for months now, as has at least one admin, but this reappearance slipped past us both. There is a strong, probably Lebanese, desire to see Slim's father's motherland in the lead & so you can safely assume it will return before too long. But a good catch nonetheless! - Sitush (talk) 16:09, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Nikki Yanofsky

All Hallow's Wraith—I've read your argument here: Talk:Sam Fuld#Deletion of RS--supported material. I'm withholding judgement on it. In truth I haven't looked into the details of Sam Fuld all that deeply vis-a-vis the question of his being Jewish. I am curious as to whether you would support inclusion of straightforward language in the Nikki Yanofsky article that she is Jewish. The Talk page of her article contains part of the debate involving myself and others. The Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard#Nikki_Yanofsky contains a second repository of arguments and counterarguments. I would be interested in your opinion. This not canvasing as you are as likely to take one side in the argument as the other, or none—finding your own articulation of a recommended way forward. I do know that you are somewhat knowledgeable of the particulars applicable to such a debate. If you can find the time can you try to read through the arguments and counterarguments, especially at the WP:BLPN? Thank you. Bus stop (talk) 22:55, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Your deletions of RS-supported material

As I said, your deletions of RS-supported material notable material about subjects of bios is against wp guidelines. Your insistence on then adding similar information, not about the subjects of the articles, but about their parents, highlights the problem with your editing. Kindly desist -- there is not logic to those edits.--Epeefleche (talk) 06:45, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

Scorsese

Hi, Did you see the discussion on Scorsese's talk page about references for his full name? "Martin Scorsese" The New York Times, 2010 "Martin Scorsese: Telling Stories through Film", The Washington Times, November 30, 2007; Adams, Veronika Martin Scorsese Ebook.GD Publishing ISBN 1613230109 Wernblad, Annette (2010) The Passion of Martin Scorsese: A Critical Study of the Films McFarland p14 ISBN 0786449462. These are strong sources. Best wishes Span (talk) 23:11, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

Moves

Hello, can you please stop moving pages for the moment? I think you are leaving behind page histories. Let me see what I can do to fix it. Erik (talk | contribs) 20:25, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

I reported the situation to WP:ANI. I think you acted too quickly; there is an ongoing discussion at WT:COMICS#X-Men: First Class about this. Erik (talk | contribs) 20:31, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

I don't disagree with you about the placement, but the moves need to be made properly. Right now, the film article does not show the page history. I would recommend letting an admin revert the moves and participating in the discussion I linked to. There's no hurry; readers will get to where they want to go. They're just slightly inconvenienced. Erik (talk | contribs) 20:33, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Page moves can become tricky for non-admin editors if they're moved around too much. The status quo isn't hurting anyone, so I think it would be best to figure out a consensus before making the necessary moves. Erik (talk | contribs) 20:41, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Move of Mr. Popper's Penguins

Hi. I noticed you moved the article formerly at "Mr. Popper's Penguins" to "Mr. Popper's Penguins (book)" and created a disambiguation page at "Mr. Popper's Penguins". This seems odd; did you have a particular reason for doing so? There are many other books that have been later made into films (e.g. Mary Poppins, Peter Pan, I, Robot) and all of them remain as the primary article for the title, while the film is linked in the hatnote. I'm inclined to think that this convention would be appropriate for this title as well. 76.199.64.109 (talk) 05:07, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Warning

You seem to, again, be deleting RS-sourced information. In this case, that Greg Camarillo is Jewish. You also did it with a misleading edit summary -- suggesting to the unsuspecting reader that you were only making an addition. When in fact, you were deleting the RS-supported fact that he is Jewish. I'm troubled, as you have done this in the past, many times, some of which I've alerted you to. Please stop. That's against policy. Best.--Epeefleche (talk) 03:51, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

Um, I think that Epeefleche seems to have this backwards here. (And yes, I had your user page on my Watchlist, AHW - I'd presumably done this over the Levine article - otherwise, I doubt that I'd have seen this interesting exchange, which somewhat confirms my wider concerns about over-enthusiastic ethnotagging...) AndyTheGrump (talk) 04:02, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Courtney Love/GA1

Courtney Love has been going through a lengthy Good Article review, and is now close to being listed. There now needs to be a bit of tidying up done - trimming some excessive detail, and a bit of copy-editing, as well as building up the lead a bit more. This is one of the top viewed articles on Wikipedia and is on an important yet complex subject. Any assistance, even if only to proof read one of the sections, would be much appreciated. SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 17:24, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Amy Brenneman

Thank you for verifying something that I suspected about her origin. I am a Brenneman descendant, and I have added unique material to my genealogical files. She will appear as "Living Brenneman, Gender F". Living persons born after 1929 are not displayed publicly on Rootsweb files because of the potential for abuse, and I set my filter so that names of persons under 90 are not shown due to the potential for sundry abuses from high-pressure marketing to stalking. I will soon show you a page from the genealogical website Rootsweb.com that shows her ancestry of her Brenneman line back to Switzerland.Pbrower2a (talk) 21:42, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

I have several here:

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=brower7881&id=I47462&style=TABLE

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=brower7881&id=I47462&style=TEXT

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=brower7881&id=I47437&style=TEXT

I am a sixth cousin, once removed

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=DESC&db=brower7881&id=I29152Pbrower2a (talk) 23:15, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

HSwank

I tried a different tack on this one, hoped you'd go with it maybe. Swliv (talk) 23:22, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

Re: Keanu's ancestry

I'm actually the webmaster of whoaisnotme.net where that discussion took place (and apparently led to other places citing it). However, based on other sources, I'm unsure about its accuracy. Throughout the years Keanu was repeatedly described as having a white British mother and a Hawaiian-Chinese father, with more precise accounts putting him at 1/8 Chinese. More recently (Sept 2013) he personally mentioned that his grandmother was Chinese and Hawaiian, which further complicates matters, though it's possible that he's mistaken. Native Hawaiian ancestry is itself heavily tied to East Asian ancestry, so it's also possible that this is merely a matter of semantics and geography.

Either way, there's something extremely odd with describing Keanu's father as "of English, Native Hawaiian, Portuguese, Scottish, 1/32 Chinese, and remote Dutch, French, and Italian, ancestry"; "of 1/32 ... ancestry" isn't even grammatically correct or consistent with the rest of the sentence, which never cares to be as precise with the other figures, not to mention that if 1/32 is not considered remote, what is? It's also suspicious that English is listed first, because if we're talking about how prominent a particular ethnic makeup is, Keanu's father looks obviously not-white, same as the rest of his paternal family.

More to the point, in the past few months Keanu has been getting a lot of flak for his role as a 'half-breed' character in 47 Ronin, with people deriding him as a white guy out to appropriate Asian culture. Problems with Hollywood whitewashing aside, while Keanu may not be significantly Chinese, it's at least clear that he is neither anywhere near 100% white, as many people have been claiming, but closer to slightly over half. I thus find it disingenuous that people edited the Wiki article (after years of it simply reporting him to be half white and half Hawaiian-Chinese, as most sources said) to make it seem that his non-white ancestry is negligible; while his Chinese ancestry might very well be, his Hawaiian ancestry definitely isn't. Anakinmcfly (talk) 08:41, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

I'm new to editing Wikipedia

I recently edited Jonah Meyerson's page by adding "The Jason Sudeikis Incident" about an incident between Jonah and Jason that took place at UPenn a few days ago. I know Wikipedia prefers cited information, but unfortunately this incident is not documented anywhere. I (and many others) just happened to be there to see it go down. How do I proceed? Should I have made the edit without citation instead of citing the larger event? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.250.143.158 (talk) 18:21, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

Season's tidings!

FWiW Bzuk (talk) 04:05, 25 December 2011 (UTC).

Please check this edit!

Hi there, I see you recently edited Zachary Gordon. Could you please check whether this edit is correct? The anonymous editor who did it mostly performs vandalism. Thanks! --Slashme (talk) 08:56, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for checking it out! I see it's already been fixed. --Slashme (talk) 20:02, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

Nicholas Hoult's ethnicity

Hello! Magazine confirms that his mother is indeed Palestinian. If you can find a reputable source claiming otherwise, post it, and the source will be removed. Otherwise, it's staying. It's sourced, per Wiki guidelines. If you feel that this somehow violates Wiki rules, contact an administrator. Please cease from an edit war. TY. Itsthegoldenratio (talk) 03:47, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

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Beyoncé Knowles

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Do not change Sharon Leal's age. Wikipedia has verified it through her site. It will just be changed back. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paulbecker1 (talk • contribs) 06:12, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Hey ...Why don't you google me to see my relation to her. I have her drivers license with me now. She is born in 1979. Look at the past talk pages....her official website trumps everything you may post or edit! I suggest you stop please. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paulbecker1 (talk • contribs) 06:33, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

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Whitney Houston

Sorry, I seem to have clobbered your edit on Whitney Houston. it's been a while since my last Wikipedia edit. I'll try to replace the submerged changes, but the server seems to be responding slowly to me. Ichthyos (talk) 06:15, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Well, big articles like this one usually open slower than smaller articles, Ichthyos. Flyer22 (talk) 06:19, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Ancesty percentages and degree removed from full non-African descended ancestors - Whitney Houston article

You, recently, made an edit to the 1963–1976: Early life section suggesting that Whitney Houston's non-African ancestry was more distant than her African ancestry, and that she was mostly of African ancestry. This can't be factually stated without having her genetic DNA results for both of her parents, which is something she never participated in publicly. According the to this video interview (starting at the :54 mark) of Cissy Houston, Whitney's mother, Whitney's maternal great-grandfather, John Drinkard, Jr., was full Native American. If you go to the 1:00 mark, Cissy Houston states that her great-great-grandfather (Whitney's great-great-great-grandfather) was fully Dutch. Furthermore, Whitney Houston's maternal great-grandmother, Susan Bell Drinkard (nee Fuller), is described by Cissy Houston as being 'Dutch'. The full Dutch ancestor would have been that of Susan Bell Fuller, the great-grandmother.

Furthermore, and not included in the article (looking for source to cite), her New Jersey native father was also half Caucasian, purportedly, half Italian.

This would mean that her non-African ancestry is more recent than her African ancestry as she would be further removed from direct African parentage via the Trans Atlantic Slave Trade. Her direct European and Indigenous American parentage is more recent. Therefore, it's inaccurate to state that these ancestries are more distant than her African-slave parentage. Bab-a-lot (talk) 23:26, 16 February 2012 (UTC) lf

birthname

Hi, why are you adding birthname for cases like Thomas Mulcair? I think it is for cases like Marilyn Monroe or Madonna, where the birthname is actually different from the name the person is known as. -- P.T. Aufrette (talk) 06:46, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

I guess we disagree on whether the J. is significant. Consider the following sentences:

• Cary Grant was born Archibald Alexander Leach in 1904.
• Thomas Mulcair was born Thomas J. Mulcair in 1954.

The first sentence sounds natural, whereas the second sentence sounds odd and redundant; no one would write out the second sentence or say it out loud. So my criterion would be to only use birthname in cases where this kind of sentence makes sense. -- P.T. Aufrette (talk) 08:04, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

It's just that "Cary Grant was born Archibald Leach" is identical to "Cary Grant's birthname was Archibald Leach", which in turn is identical to specifying a birthname field. Or at least, that's the way I interpreted it. :-) -- P.T. Aufrette (talk) 08:22, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

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Hi - there is a report about your desired addition at the BLP noticeboard - Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard#Harrison_Ford - perhaps you want to make four case fdor inclusion there - Youreallycan 09:33, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

There was no "addition". I was not "adding" anything to the article. I was "reverting" something "back" into the article that's been there for over six years. This is why I have no energy to even get involved in this. When you have to start off by explaining something so basic as that. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 11:30, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

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You eliminated "Category:American people of Irish descent" from Richard J. Rabbitt's page (as "unsourced"). What source is required to maintain that category?

Michel de Montaigne

Your edit on Montaigne makes no sense. I have several biographies of him, and nowhere does it mention that his mother's mother was Catholic and his mother's father was not. His mother's family, as far as any biographies know, were Catholic of Spanish/Marrano origin. Please edit more carefully. Avaya1 (talk) 23:13, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

I looked into it. You are correct about maternal-grandmother. New research also suggests that Montaigne's father's family likely had Marrano origin. L’Histoire Juive de Montaigne ( Paris: 2001), page 76. Avaya1 (talk) 23:54, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

Nice work on the Thomas Mulcair article

Just thought I would pop by and thank you for your work on the Thomas Mulcair article, as it did need a lot of work and as a Topp supporter I was not the most literate or impartial on the subject. ;) Hamish Paul Wilson (talk) 18:27, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

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[9] [10] [11]. WP:SCROLL says not to do this. Gimmetoo (talk) 17:58, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

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Alexa Davalos entry

Hey, Thought I'd ask from where do you know Alexa Davalos? Actually do you know if she has other projects aside from L.A. Noir.

Thanks.

PS I originally added the L.A. Noir info in her entry (before I had an account). Not sure I thought to mention that but did.

PPS as far as her nationality goes, while I think she's an American actress - there's an argument to be made for her as French. In fact, the fashionmodeldirectory.com has her listed as a french model. Then again it also states she's an actress now, even though she hasn't acted in over two years - a shame really. But I digress.

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Jessica Chastain

Given our recent discussion this might be of interest for you: Talk:Jessica_Chastain

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I'd like to thank BOTH of you for your participation on the talk page. We really need input from other editors, so your comments are valued. Both of you state a very clear preference for a birthdate of 1977, and consider a 1981 date as false. I suspect you're right, but I'm totally confused by the fact that the RS are conflicting. Therefore I don't take any particular side in the issue, other than to seek to enforce policy.

Since you both so strongly prefer one date, what sources are you using? I'd like to evaluate them. -- Brangifer (talk) 04:51, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

I don't prefer a particular date (see the 3 options listed in the discussion). After superficially browsing the various sources in the discussion, I basically only oppose the 1981-only option. The 1977-only option may be justifiable if people can agree what the official records say, i.e. when it is is obvious to everybody that the official records for her are authentic and state her date or year of birth. Short of that state both dates or none, with those 2 options being possible in any case anyhow.--Kmhkmh (talk) 05:39, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

I haven't seen any official records yet. Have you? -- Brangifer (talk) 05:47, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

Nope, only (indirect) "conclusions" from genealogy websites. Nevertheless I pointed the (potential) option C since the birthday certificate issue was brought up in the discussion earlier. And some people seemed to entertain the notion that WP should/could knowingly publish false information, which imho is a misreading of policy intent due to an overly literal policy without regard of context, that is the concrete case, other policies, policy and project goals. So if we had indeed an (unquestionably) authentic copy of her actual birth certificate, then I would argue strongly for C, but so far we haven't.--Kmhkmh (talk) 09:45, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

I don't think anyone would advocate for publishing information that we "know" is wrong, but only while there is still doubt and sources are conflicting, we parrot what RS state. Using logic (IOW OR) we can conclude that not all those dates can be right, but we don't know for sure which ones. That's where we're at now. As soon as we get clarity, we'll eliminate the wrong ones. We haven't seen a birth certificate yet. I thought maybe you had since you were so sure.

Genealogy websites are notoriously inaccurate, which causes me no end of grief, since I'm the family genealogist. -- Brangifer (talk) 15:09, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

We're not talking about a family tree of Jessica Chastain listing her as born in 1977. But the combination of the California Birth Record (1977) with that early article that called her "21" seals the deal. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 17:56, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

I guess I haven't seen them. Would you please provide them here? I'm interested in anything that will seal the deal and put this issue to rest! -- Brangifer (talk) 02:56, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

What do you mean? I checked the California Birth Records on ancestry.com, which someone referenced on her talk page, and the Jessica Chastain born March 24, 1977 seems like a very good match, mother's maiden name "Chastain" (no other plausible matches in any plausible year). As for the article that says she was 21 in 1998, it's here and it was linked right at the top of the Jessica Chastain talk page. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 03:15, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

1. The metroactive source is currently being used to document an instance mentioning 21 years, which tends to back up a birth year near 1977. So far so good. It's not absolute proof, but it's in a RS, so we're using it. That's good.

2. I just searched the talk page and didn't find any reference to ancestry.com or California Birth Records. Do you have it and will you just copy it here so we can look at it?

I'm deliberately avoiding discussing this on the talk page because of the personal attacks I always get from the IP. Here we're experienced editors who can civilly discuss and analyze this in peace, and I'm hoping you can provide good proof for the 1977 date. That would settle this problem. -- Brangifer (talk) 03:57, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Oh, it starts off with "Her record on the CA birth index has her " (on the talk page). Well, if you search, at ancestry.com, for Jessica Chastain born March 24, all you get is "Name: Jessica M Chastain Birth Date : 3 / 24 / 1977 Gender : Female Mother's Maiden Name : Chastain Birth County: Sacramento". You can also search here, but there is no mother's maiden name there. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 04:28, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

So we have unofficial (i.e. non-governmental) genealogy websites listing someone who could very well be her for that date. Interesting. (I've often had trouble finding any information for the current generation in my own research, but more information for the older generations. I imagine that if any of our family were Mormons, the situation would be very different.) Unfortunately for us, I don't know of any genealogy websites that are considered RS for Wikipedia use, but for family tree research, they are often good places to get information and tips. -- Brangifer (talk) 04:46, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Only three Jessica Chastains ever born in California. The other two definitely ain't her. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 04:48, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Yes, those are the only ones yet submitted by users of the website. (There could be others.) It's probably true that she's the one from Sacramento, but it's not a RS. Although it's unofficial, it still tends to make me believe that she's born in 1977. Now to get something more reliable! -- Brangifer (talk) 04:55, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

No, no, you don't get it. The users of these websites do not submit these listings. These are the complete California Birth Records, uploaded by ancestry.com. There are no missing entries. These are straight from the source and complete. No user-editing in this department. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 04:57, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Ummm....ancestry.com isn't official. It's user-created and edited. Now if ancestry.com has special access to official state birth records, that would be a different matter. Is that what you're saying? Do they really pay for all those records? -- Brangifer (talk) 05:06, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

I don't know if they pay for them, or how much, but these are all the official records, straight from the source. There's no question about that. These are not uploaded by users, these are not created by users, and you can't edit the California Birth Records, try as you might. To sum up, if your question is "Now if ancestry.com has special access to official state birth records" - the answer is, yes, they do. There is some interesting material over at California Birth Index but once again neither of the links I sent you are user-created or user-edited in any way, shape, or form. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 05:10, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Very interesting! The current state of affairs seems a bit complicated, according to the CBI article, but they have had them and seem to still list part of the information. Now, do we have a ruling that says we can use ancestry.com as a RS here? If we can get such a ruling, we could probably settle the matter right away! Would you like to start a thread at RS/N? -- Brangifer (talk) 05:17, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

I don't doubt that it could be recognized as a reliable source. The problem is original research, how do we know that it's the same Jessica Chastain? Certainly in 1977 it wouldn't have said "Jessica Chastain, Oscar nominee", and so it doesn't say so there today. Of course we can make a very scientific guess that it is... but... All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 06:12, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Darn! I do see your point though. It (very slightly) borders on OR and SYNTH violations, but if we can find RS which back it up, then it's their OR and SYNTH, and not ours, which is okay. It is editors, and not RS, which must not make novel synthesis. -- Brangifer (talk) 06:16, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

If we can simply convince the people at Talk:Jessica Chastain that the California Birth Index is the smoking gun, then we can just use the "age 21" thing as a source. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 06:18, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

The article's talk page has now gotten a "stuck" label on it! I've never seen that before, but it's true. We need to kick start this issue into life again. Would it be okay with you if we started a new section there by copying this whole thread? That might get the discussion going again, with these last points to prime the pump. -- Brangifer (talk) 04:30, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

I do not claim to retain the rights and priviledges to the text on my page. You should feel free to copy and paste it as you wish, or re-publish it in book form for a hefty sum without need of royalties. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 04:45, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

LOL! I understand, but it wouldn't be right to "just do it" without your acceptance. I'll do it now and let's see what happens. Thanks. -- Brangifer (talk) 04:54, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Tom Rosenthal

Thank you for the useful information. All in all, it is clear that Tom Rosenthal is not Jewish, but only of Jewish descent.--Bbrezic (talk) 13:04, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Sure. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 15:05, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Ethnicity

I saw you removed the ethnicity of Shiva Rose from the lead per WP:MOSBIO. Are you sure that in her case the ethnicity is not relevant to her notable activities? It would seem to me that it is. Debresser (talk) 21:26, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

I just saw your Pinker ethnicity edit. Canadian would be a lack of ethnicity :) --Javaweb (talk) 10:11, 23 January 2013 (UTC)Javaweb

What do you mean? Yes, I removed "Canadian" from it because it isn't an "ethnicity". All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 10:16, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Helpful?

I note the insulting ad hominem argument you make here, without further comment at this time. --John (talk) 15:38, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

I've removed more unsourced "Jewish" categories than you and your BLP friends ever have, ever will, combined, and times 100. The difference between me and people like you is that I like to remove unsourced categories and you like to remove sourced ones. That makes your edits disruptive and wasteful of time, and I don't like that. Quit while you're ahead, or find cases where there's actual ambigiuity, like Adam Yauch. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 21:09, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

I don't like your tone. There was no need to insult me in the diff I highlighted and there was no need for your snark ("people like you", "your BLP friends") when I pointed it out. If you find my edits disruptive, address it in one of the recognised steps of dispute resolution rather than issuing personal attacks, please. I'm afraid that if you continue like this you will find yourself unable to continue with the work you do and in which you take such evident pride. You may have the last word as I am unwatching, but please do bear my advice in mind. Good evening to you. --John (talk) 21:31, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Your perspective would be valued

There is a dispute about Sondra Locke's year of birth. Some sources say 1944 while others say 1947. Because of this dispute, both years are listed in the opening sentence of her Wikipedia page. None of the sources that say she was born in 1947 are reliable. However, there are many reliable sources that say she was born in 1944:

Sondra Locke's marriage license [12] to Gordon Leigh Anderson on September 25, 1967 (available publicly through the state archives or Ancestry.com) lists her birthdate as 5/28/44. MSN movies [13] and the Internet Movie Database [14] say that she was born in 1944. A 1989 People magazine article [15] gives Locke's age as 45, correlating to a 1944 birth year. The Middle Tennessee State University yearbook from 1963 has a photo of her [16] appearing in a university production of Arthur Miller's play, The Crucible. For Locke to have attended a university during the 1962-63 semester, she would have to have been born no later than 1944 unless she graduated high school early, which is unlikely given that she makes no mention of it in her autobiography. Locke does not mention her year of birth in her autobiography. On 28 May 2011, Sondra Locke turned 67 according to ABC News [17], Yahoo! News [18], the Associated Press [19], Leigh Valley News [20], and The Boston Globe [21]; this directly correlates to her being born on 28 May 1944.

Sondra Locke's Wikipedia page, in my opinion, should only list 1944 as her year of birth. There is no question that she was born in 1944. I am requesting that you make this correction to Sondra Locke's page, because every time another user has made this correction, their edits have been reverted without merit. 131.239.63.5 (talk) 03:39, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

The Tennessee Marriage Record confirms 1944. I don't know that I can do much, though. There was a long discussion about this with many editors at Talk:Sondra Locke, and it looks like saying 1944, with a maybe 1947, was the consensus. That isn't that unreasonable, at least for the moment. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 04:30, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

This particular editor's problem is that he is indefinitely blocked, and his edits keep being reverted because of block evasion. WP:Sockpuppet investigations/Excuseme99 for details if you are interested.—Kww(talk) 02:46, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Nah, I don't really care about editors, just about facts. If he/she/it is right, they're right. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 17:31, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Maher & Church

re: Your edit here ... you are correct, Maher's mother never attended. I was trying to find a way to convey that his father stopped taking everyone except his mother, who never attended in the first place. Your wording makes it sound like a strictly father & son affair when others were involved, but it is no less accurate than my wording, I guess. Not going to argue about it. I do note that you and I both appear to be going off what Maher actually said in his Religulous movie, and not the actual cited source at the end of this content ;-) Regards, Xenophrenic (talk) 04:28, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

I implemented your suggestion. Unless he has disowned some family members that I don't know about, he has just one sister, Kathy. He says in the first 6 minutes of his film, "we had this family where one person was Jewish, and the other three were Catholic...". Hey, congrats on hitting the 100K mark! Regards, Xenophrenic (talk) 15:56, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. That's a scary mark. I feel old. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 15:56, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

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One hundred thousand? Oh no, what have I done... All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 15:57, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

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Somewhat daunted by the 100,000 edits, nevertheless ...

After looking at Prometheus (disambiguation), I'm unsure about singling out the Ridley Scott film at the top of Prometheus. My concern is "recentism." Now, on the one hand I'm quite sure that the movie has spiked article traffic way up, and that's why over the last week or so I've tried to clean up the mythology article and write a more pertinent intro. (The first sentence used to be entirely about whose son and brother he was, just a list of names, and no mention of the creation of man, which is pretty pertinent for the movie allusion.) I pulled what had been a footnote on the etymology of the name to its own section, and after seeing the movie myself was glad I'd done so, since linguistic heritage is a minor theme, and "Indo-European" is even mentioned once.

On the other hand, since we're an encyclopedia and not a fan site, and since we can't engage in OR by pointing out in the article on the film some of the possible mythic and cultural allusions of the name, I'm reluctant to facilitate a reader's search for the movie if it means they skip at least glancing at the first paragraph of Prometheus. My thinking is that readers may just pick up something they can use or find illuminating at that article, or even the dab. This is perhaps a teacherly kind of concern, and the article on the movie is far superior to the average pop-culture plot summary. But it doesn't have a top note pointing to the dab or to the mythological figure, and doesn't even contain a link to the mythological figure, as far as I can see. And again, given the many astronomical and literary uses of Prometheus with a more established history of usage, I think it's undue weight to single out the movie at this time. Cynwolfe (talk) 15:34, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

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Andrew Samberg

No that wasn't a skit. If you can't tell the difference between when it's real vs a skit, then you shouldn't go claiming it's a skit. Leno frequently mentions things about a guests past or other factual detail about them that seems unreal or like a skit, but is actually factual. Andy Samberg stated that his birth name isn't David and that he was born in Berkeley not Alameda. Unless you have a verified copy of his birth certificate, you can't seriously say that he's the same person as someone else born in a different place with a different first name. It's quite possible for people living near each other and born on or near the same date to have the same or similar name. I know this for a fact because growing up, there was a kid that had a name like mine, just with a different middle initial. Are you going to now tell me that my middle name is different than what I know it to be? You can't realistically say it's not possible unless you have done some serious stalking of Samberg and know more about him than anyone else on Earth could possible know. Don't get me wrong, I respect your desire to put what you *think* is correct, but you're acting like he doesn't know his own past. I'm not denying that it's possible that he's mistaken, but if he says it as fact, then without undeniable proof that would have him saying he truly didn't know, what he says about himself should be respected. LordOfTheWolves (talk) 07:34, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

"I've been working with genealogy and birth records for years, so you're not going to convince me." So what you're saying is that it's not possible for you to be mistaken? No offense but that's arrogance and you're mistaken, that wasn't a skit. That was part of the actual interview. You're obviously not a frequent viewer of the show, otherwise you'd know that it wasn't a skit where things are faked or to not be trusted. As I mentioned before, Leno tends to do those things with his guests and what's said is real, not scripted. If you seriously think it was scripted, then you have a lot to learn. I know they do a rehearsal interview prior to taping, but that doesn't mean the truth is scripted or 'invented'. Please respect what I'm saying, just as you want others to respect what you say. Also, please stay off of my page until you accept that you're not infallible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LordOfTheWolves (talk • contribs) 08:23, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

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Hi there, when you recently made a change to the articles of Ashley Olsen and Mary-Kate Olsen, you removed "Fuller" as the mother's surname. In your edit summary, you said "California Birth Index lists it as Jones, not Fuller." I wonder if you meant to add "Jones" into the article as the mother's surname? Thank you. Safehaven86 (talk) 01:58, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Got it. Since they were married when the twins were born, I'm assuming she took the name Olsen. If I find a source that says so, I'll add that they were born to "David and Jarnette Olsen." I think that would make sense, assuming I find a source. Thanks for your edits. Safehaven86 (talk) 03:21, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Frid

Sorry to have deleted that; I looked for the reference within the article and didn't find it. Thanks for correcting and expanding that.842U (talk) 11:06, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Ben Elton's mother

Putting her name in the infobox is a good idea but when I looked at it just now, the combination of her name and the brackets made me think she might not be his real mother, but a Foster parent. An ambiguity that could be solved by not using the brackets? Or just me? What do you think? Britmax (talk) 09:16, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for that: made the change. Glad to know it wasn't just me! Britmax (talk) 09:37, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

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Birth dates

Hi, All Hallow's. Not too forward at all. In fact, I'd first like to compliment you for your editing in general; whenever I see your name on one of my watchlisted articles, I know I'm going to see a knowledgeable, well-considered edit. I might occasionally tweak it for some technical or formatting reason, but it's nice to know I'm working with a good and thoughtful editor. My thanks to you for all you work.

I agree that British Birth Records at ancestry.com makes February 1988 the latest timeframe for her birth, and that the May 19, 1988 date should be discounted. The Twitter posts implying December 27 are strong, but not explicit — many people celebrate their birthdays on a different date than the actual day, since they might want to have the party or the dinner on a weekend when friends can make it. It's the same with people I know whose birthdays fall on Christmas Day — they have their celebration on a different day near it.

Given The Observer, a highly RS site, I think the safest thing would be to say "circa December 1987 or January 1988". Because we're an encyclopedia — something which, by its very nature and definition people look to for the most concrete, definitive, "last word" on a subject — I believe we should err conservatively and say only what we feel is irrefutable. I think this phrasing accomplishes that. I'll certainly support efforts to keep May 19, 1988 out of the article. With regards, Tenebrae (talk) 18:27, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

RE: LILY COLE.

I agree that IMDb is not always reliable although they have tightened up their standards and won't add or change certain data (especially dates of birth) without a URL from a presumably reliable source. In fact they don't consider Wikipedia a reliable source due to the open editing nature of Wiki. Like I said I didn't want to buy 60 credits that I probably wasn't going to use. (Intelius allows you to buy one at a time for a relatively cheap price.) So thanks for letting me know that her birth was registered in February 1988, hence she could not have been born in May 1988. Quis separabit? 22:37, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

First and final warning

Hello All Hallow's Wraith and Jsigned, I must say that your antics over the last day or three have been quite amusing. However, you both should be informed (since inexplicably you have not already figured it out on your own) that this is not how we operate at English Wikipedia. If you are having a dispute, you need to actually communicate with each other. If you find this difficult, seek a third opinion or otherwise pursue our avenues for dispute resolution. I'm heading off to sleep quite soon, when I wake up tomorrow I will check back. You are both well aware of your own and each others actions, if you are persisting in the same patterns then, I will consider removing your editing privileges here. Start talking, or be prepared to stop editing. Please. Franamax (talk) 05:31, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

I'm long overdue to be blocked. Perhaps permanently? I'm just out of control. Going around correcting people's birthdates when every "reliable" source agrees otherwise (so obviously they're right), being followed by perverts who revert every one of my edits (hey, when you go around adding commas to articles, you're the one asking for it - I learned that lesson, and not the easy way), and finally, confronting POV-pushing pugilists who add overindulgent nonsense to articles that already cover the same ground and who have reached immobile "consensus", apparently with themselves. So you are totally right. I need to be restrained here. How does the Justin Bieber song go? I think it's "Block me, block me, say that you'll block me..." It didn't happen with Lily Cole, I'm not sure about this Jsigned guy, but between him and Tim Morehouse I would say the inevitable blockage of All Hallow's Wraith is just around the corner. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 06:20, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

What about your other choice, where you ask for help from other editors? None of whom would advise you to post random texts to orangebar someone. Find more effective ways, read up on WP:DR dispute resolution and try one of those. Keep it simple and address content issues rather than your feelings about the other editor. There's no WP:Deadline. :) Franamax (talk) 06:30, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

I have this problem where I don't really care about Wikipedia editors (myself included, of course), just about article content, and don't like to waste my time with internal squabbling, even if it involves myself. Hey, never mind. The Jsigned thing is too weird to discuss and he's a short-term problem anyway. Epeefleche is another matter because he is a long-term problem. What do you think of this - Epeefleche changed the sentence on Tim Morehouse to read "Morehouse, who is Jewish, is the son of Eloise and John Morehouse". Does this read right to you? Morehouse has a Jewish maternal grandmother, and evidently three non-Jewish grandparents. His grandmother also converted to Quakerism, it seems. Morehouse does have a sense of Jewish identity, given his interview comments, and says he was raised with a "mixture" of religious traditions. Now, what I just wrote out right here already is in the article text, in great detail (probably too excessive, at that). Me and another editor seemed to agree on that. What sense does it make to add "who is Jewish" to the text in addition to everything I've just said? Isn't that, aside from being misleading, also very redundant, and, on a purely aesthetic level, it reads very strangely as text? All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 06:38, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

On the Morehouse thing, I wouldn't act as an admin there, since I don't find the addition appropriate either. But I'm only talking about your dance with Jsigned, which you need to address more effectively or leave be. You can't bombard pages to make a POINT, that leads to chaos. Slow down a second and outline what your specific content issue (or issues) with Jsigned is (are), and figure out a way to resolve them. There are noticeboards and talk pages galore on this project, so pls use them to solve my own little piece of the problem. Then I can ignore the rest of yours. :) Franamax (talk) 07:16, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

My content issue is that I don't like to be followed and have my edits reverted en masse for no particular reason (i.e. this, this, or this). Apparently because I made this unforgiveable edit on a page Jsigned watches, I have to be stalked and reverted on every little thing. Well, no deal. I don't like that, nor do I feel like wasting time on dispute resolution, since I don't know what the dispute is either, other than crazy. Like I said, Jsigned is a short-term problem, he's already grown tired of this, I think, and I probably won't even remember his name a week from now. Epeefleche, on the other hand, is a long-term problem who's edited like this for a very long cycle now, so if you agree with me, great! Why doncha help out? All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 07:25, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Reverting edits

Please stop reverting edits on the Zachary Gordon page. If you continue to do so in an unappropriate manner... YOUR EDITING PRIVILEGES WILL BE REVOKED!!! 123.2.142.50 (talk) 08:16, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Do you mean reverting where you ask for an image directly in the article text? Nooo, I think your warning is a little misplaced here, maybe you should put it on your own talk page 123.2. You should be discussing on Talk:Zachary Gordon and asking for images there. Franamax (talk) 08:43, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Andrew Garfield

I think its better to place countries after cities in lead because most people don't know where Surrey exactly is. Thoughts? Ow I also left messages on Talk:Andrew Garfield. Regards AdabowtheSecond (talk) 03:32, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

I don't know, I thought it reads better this way and listing the countries was more ungainly. It already says he's American and British in the sentence right before, and then the exact countries are mentioned in early life, so, to me, it seemed a little much. I could be wrong. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 06:08, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

I see your point AdabowtheSecond (talk) 14:37, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Template: IMDB name leading zeroes

Please stop deleting the leading zeroes in the ID code for this template. The instructions for using the template state: "... keep all the leading zeros (though IMDb currently seems to be able to add them as needed)". Wikipedia has no control over whether IMDB will continue to replace the omitted leading zero in the ID number. Thanks!—D'Ranged 1 <sup>talk</sup> 06:48, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

OK. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 06:53, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

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Sam

All Hallows! I didn't look to see who I was (very productively) editing with! How the hell are you?!

Norfolk's a county? Uh ... D'oh!

Please do fix however is appropriate in a way that explains (perhaps in the footnote) what those other place names are doing there. I'm sure I'm not the only Ugly American misunderstanding it! With regards, --Tenebrae (talk) 22:09, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

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Category:Czech Jews

Hello All Hallow's Wraith. You've recently removed a lot of names from the category Czech Jews. The information is — in most cases — easily verifiable. I've added references to Kája Saudek, Jan Saudek and Miloš Kopecký, please, check. I admit that your edits may be justified (.. and deleting is so easy), but I don't consider this kind of editing very constructive. Why not to look for sources before deleting? --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 06:23, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for the explanation, but there's a lot of others, i. e. Rudolf Wels, who died in Auschwitz with his family. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 06:44, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

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Lucy Stone's mom

This edit of yours to Lucy Stone brought what I think is incorrect information to the article. Do you remember where you saw it? Binksternet (talk) 02:56, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

Sept 2, 9:45 edit - Jennifer oneill edit / deletion of her as a covergirl model spokesman

This article has had her listed (for years now) as a Covergirl model and spokesperson; you deleted this; could you enlighten us as to your reason for deleting this historically correct reference ? As one of the most 400 active editors, changing or deleting for the mere sake of it is not editing, IMHO, especially where the change or deletion is historically incorrect. Thank you. Taninao0126 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.194.226.170 (talk) 13:00, 4 September 2012 (UTC) P.S. I see now that the "Category:American CoverGirl spokesperson" does not exist; please note however that she is specifically listed and discussed in the Category:CoverGirl which should be perhaps in the fourth of fifth line in that last section. Please correct / add if you will. Taninao0126 (talk) 13:17, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

That's right. Red link, as I stated. The category did not exist, so I deleted it. Category:CoverGirl does not exist either. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 02:03, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

Rosie H-W

Well, maybe. I'm not an expert. There's quite a bit already about her antecedents and I think the point is that she is "well connected". The book about the 30 assault unit specifically mentions the relationship between Peter H-W and Rosie.BONNUIT (talk) 10:49, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

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Quinn Lord in The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus

You removed The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus from the filmography of Quinn Lord based on the edit summary "no evidence", yet Lord's name appears in the credits at the film's IMDb page. Admittedly, IMDb is not considered the most reliable source, but since the film's own official website appears to be broken, what better source do we have? WikiDan61<sup>ChatMe!</sup><sub>ReadMe!!</sub> 11:46, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Ugh! I was trying to remove Cyber Seduction: His Secret Life and instead I removed Parnasuss. Good call. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 23:55, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Kathleen/Kathy

Paris's mother and grandmother had the same name, so when she was younger they already called her Kathy. All the family members and books refer to her as Kathy, not Kathleen. Do you think it is still necessary we include that as her maiden name? Spelling Style (talk) 04:09, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

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Thanks

Hey thanks for your input on the Mitt Romney talk page regarding children in the infobox, much appreciated :) Lady Lotus (talk) 23:52, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

Children's names in infobox is a rather irriating recent phenomenon. Thank you for removing them. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 00:20, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

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Birth names

Such as [22], could you only add the field when we have the full middle name? I know some people just have initials, but we should not be insinuating such without a cite, IMO. Thanks. – Connormah (talk) 00:02, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

I too agree. 117Avenue (talk) 05:18, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

Alison Redford

I have reverted your most recent edit to Alison Redford. The Edmonton Journal reference was added by User:Connormah in October 2011, confirmed by myself the same day, and confirmed by you in April 2012. Please remember that a reference does not become invalid when it's website link becomes inactive. Thanks, 117Avenue (talk) 05:18, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

It's true that I added the full name to the infobox, but I just did it because it was already in the article. I didn't look at any sources then, and I didn't see a source there today, which is why I tagged it. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 06:16, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

Yes, it's difficult to reference things like a person's name or birthday, because it doesn't look good, aesthetically, to have a reference in the first sentence or infobox. 117Avenue (talk) 04:00, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

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Birth date yet again

Hi! Since you interested in that field, I was wondering whether you have to archives.com by any change.

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Quvenzhané Wallis

Great job on starting that article, but before you get too far, know that this exists, too: User:Tonylennox/sandbox. Cheers, -- Irn (talk) 18:50, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Whoops

I think we're editing at the same time. You go ahead and make your edit at Stanley Tucci. I'll hold off a few minutes. --Tenebrae (talk) 19:17, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

That poor little edit. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 19:27, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

You are a man of good humor and patience . . .   : )   --Tenebrae (talk) 22:37, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Not so much the second part... at least outside of Wikipedia. :-) All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 03:12, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

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Andrew Garfield

This is can be perceived as personal but I hope you don't take offense. Regardless I think you will enjoy this. An interview with Andrew Garfield; skip to 1:45 until 1;54; I literally could not breathe. I keep replaying its perfection. This is kind of random; it just makes me smile and I thought you would enjoy. Thanks for thanking care of the AG article! Regards —AdabowtheSecond 02:37, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

Cheers! All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 04:06, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

Jessica Chastain

Ok so I didn't see a particular section in the talk page about the name, maybe I missed it, I admit I was skimming because I just saw a lot of talk about her birthday? But there's an article by the Daily Mail that says she was born Jessica Howard and later took Chastain because it's her mother's maiden name, so why is it not being allowed to be in her article as her birth name? Just curious Lady Lotus (talk) 02:58, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Daily Mail reference

"She was born Jessica Howard (Chastain is her mother’s maiden name), one of five children who grew up in a small town in northern California where her mother Geri runs a vegan restaurant and her father Michael is a fireman."

Gotcha, and nice researching, you should be a detective! ;) Happy editing! Lady Lotus (talk) 14:49, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Andrew Garfield article GA-worthy

I would like to bring the AG article to Good article status. Since your the article's top contributor with over 200 edits, I was wondering if you would like to nominate it together. — Robin (talk) 03:06, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

2 new responses on my talk page at User talk:Robin#Andrew Garfield. — Robin (talk) 13:54, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

And now we wait for a reviewer :). — Robin (talk) 20:43, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

It passed!!! Yay! — Robin (talk) 17:58, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Great! Now the FA work begins. :-) All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 20:44, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Hahaha. Happy editing. :) — Robin (talk) 01:35, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

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Your contribution removed

Hello, perhaps it'll be of interest to you that editor Sionk had removed (without any discussion) your contribution to Tom Holland concerned with references to familytreemaker.genealogy.com and ancestry.com because he/she thinks they are unreliable. As a result, a good chunk of the text with all the facts concerned with Tom Holland's birthplace, birthdate and his family are no longer there. I wonder whether you are able to present your arguments - as far as I understand you have used those sources in a number of Wiki articles. As a creator of Tom Holland I am interested in having properly verified basic facts about him in his Wiki article, and at the moment they are not there. Best Regards, AdVal (talk) 13:43, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

Birth names again

Re this edit, as I read the documentation at Template:Infobox person, birth names should only be used if they are different from a stage or business name, such as Reg Dwight for Elton John. Please take a look at the documentation and let me know what you think.--ukexpat (talk) 15:47, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. I favour the Elton John/Reginald Dwight interpretation so I have begun a discussion at Template talk:Infobox person#Birth name parameter. Thanks.--ukexpat (talk) 21:34, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Seth Green

Hey,thanks for pointing it out here,not for acting but he was there for some other purpose,Plz mention it.---zeeyanketu <sup>discutez</sup> 08:40, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

Publicizing info that could help identity thieves

Appreciate your diligence, but in correcting info about public figures and publicizing information such as their mother's maiden names you are providing very useful information to identity thieves which impacts every member of the public figure's family.

Since the value of this info to general readers is minimal -- versus, for instance, facts about their professional careers which are properly public information -- you should weigh the value of publicizing such sensitive information against the potential negative consequences it could lead to. Publicizing this kind of information could have catastrophic consequences for innocent persons, including the person whose profile is on Wikipedia and all of his or her family members. If you wish to contact me privately to discuss, please let me know -- I'm not certain how to set that up via Wikipedia but assume it can be done. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.198.59.52 (talk) 17:56, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)By definition, if so-and-so's mom's maiden name is in Wikipedia, it should be there only if it is already openly published common knowledge. There is no reason to cripple an encyclopedia in the name of a public hysteria about "OMG Identity Theives!". --Orange Mike | Talk 18:04, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

I think the anonymous user is talking about Kevin Kline. This is quite a curious case. Obviously, Kevin Kline is a very famous actor. Kevin Kline's mother's maiden name was "Kirk". This fact is published in obituaries of Kline's mother (i.e. here or here), as well as in reference books about Kevin Kline (i.e. some of these). The anonymous user above has been changing her maiden name to "Delaney" for many years now, in Kline's article. What I find odd is that they haven't been simply deleting "Kirk", but rather specifically replacing it with "Delaney", as if it were an error. So what is up? All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 22:19, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

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Khloe Kardashian's middle name

It was a widely publicized news story when Khloe got married that she dropped her middle name. I did appropriately link to such a source. I am not sure why you readded it to the lead. ToriJana (talk) 23:15, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

"It was a widely publicized news story when Khloe got married that she dropped her middle name." I must have missed it. I don't watch CNN or the nightly news. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 02:37, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Selena Gomez

By my count, you've reverted the removal of "part" from Selena Gomez seven times since the beginning of February.[23][24][25][26][27][28][29] I don't know why it has been removed so many times but perhaps it's because they feel it's redundant. To some extent most people are "part" something and Italian American includes people of part Italian ancestry anyway. --AussieLegend (✉) 10:09, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

I'm reverting the removal of something that is properly sourced, and that has been removed without explanation (which probably qualifies as vandalism). No, I don't think "part" is redundant at all. To describe Selena Gomez's mother as "Italian American" is grossly misleading; it implies to me something quite different than what is factually accurate: that her mother was adopted, by a couple who is not of Italian descent, and apparently is of partial ethnic Italian ancestry by birth. So her mother is not like Marisa Tomei or Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio, and she is not "Italian American" in the same way that her father is "Mexican American". Wikipedia is specific everywhere else, it should be here. Otherwise, by the same logic of redundnacy, we could simply describe Gomez as "Mexican American" and not even say her mother isn't, and so on. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 10:47, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

I've moved the above back here to keep the discussion all in the one place. The removal doesn't qualify as vandalism. It has been removed by several editors and while edit summaries are encouraged, removal without an edit summary is permitted. The article isn't describing Gomez's mother as "Italian American", it says she's of Italian descent". It's the use of "descent" that makes "part" redundant, as "descent" implies "part". --AussieLegend (✉) 11:05, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

"Descent" implies "part"? I've never heard that before. Then how does one imply "full"? And it's not being removed by different editors, it's being removed by the same editor who keeps creating new accounts. Like I said, if you don't want to be precise, why not just state that Gomez is of Mexican descent? Or just that she is of Italian descent? And so on. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 11:19, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

"Full" is shown simply by omitting "descent"; i.e. "Gomez's mother is Italian". Geelove13 has edited only 2 of the articles edited by Ashleyhudgens,[30] that's not enough evidence to convict either of sockpuppetry. I've been tempted to remove it myself, and another editor seems to agree.[31] --AussieLegend (✉) 12:08, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

The phrase "Gomez's mother is Italian" implies that her mother was born in Italy, is an Italian immigrant, or is an Italian citizen. Americans who are of entirely Italian descent are not described simply as "Italian" on Wikipedia, and if there are some examples where they are, there shouldn't be. That's inaccurate. They're not Italian, they're American. Geelove13 created their account on March 24, and edited the article of the exact same city in California that Ashleyhudgens did. Are you serious when you say they're not the same person? Of course they are. As for Kww's edit, they weren't editing the sentence that we are discussing. So I don't think their edit is relevant to this discussion. In fact, I don't disagree with their edit, since, by that point in the article, we had established that Gomez is "part" Hispanic. Perhaps it's redundant to repeat something that's already been stated, but it isn't redundant to state it for the first time. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 17:09, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

I see Geelove13 (aka Ashleyhudgens) also just deleted ancestry information from Demi Lovato's page, and added Selena Gomez to Italian immigration to Mexico, where her name is clearly relevant. But of course, defend the vandalistic troll, and attack me. Don't worry, though, I know I'm always wrong about everything, which is precisely why I will continue to pursue this. I enjoy being wrong. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 17:59, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

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You beat me! I just can't believe I'm even on this list. Hats off to ya! — MusikAnimal <sup>talk</sup> 20:57, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. I'm #1? I had no idea. I didn't think I edited that much. Rehab it is. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 21:04, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

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Hey man I edited the Jim Halpert page relating to The Office (U.S Tv series) This is because I noticed that under his latest occupation it says CEO of Athlead, when actually the company was bought out at the end of the series and the name changed to Athleap so I switched it. I know this wouldn't bother most people but I'm picky about this kind of stuff thanks man. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wiki2092 (talk • contribs) 04:41, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

Style change of changed birth names in Buzz Aldrin article

I notice you changed the word "on" to a semicolon in the lead sentence of Buzz Aldrin. What style guide are you using? According to WP:BIRTHNAME, it's perfectly good to say "(born birthname on birthdate)"; see the example given for Bill Clinton. But when I look at Bill Clinton, I see someone has changed it there as well. Was there a consensus discussion for the change? Does WP:Manual of Style/Biographies need to be changed? JustinTime55 (talk) 16:21, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

The manual of style doesn't really address the issue, does it? It gives an example that uses "on", but the example is about something else (birth names and where to use them). So the use of "on" seems incidental. I'm not sure if there is a guideline on "on" vs semi-colon. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 06:15, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

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Hi, I'd like to know why you reverted the changes I did to the article, considering the fact that I provided two reliable sources.. Thanks, Shalom11111 (talk) 04:55, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

The sources you put up were all the same source - comedy writer Joel Stein. I don't know if he is a reliable source. The version of his article that ran in the Chicago Tribune (here), states that Peter Chernin's father was Jewish, and that Chernin was raised Unitarian. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 07:19, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Good point. I would've written that Peter, "whose father is Jewish, was raised Unitarian", had I known of this article before. I think it's fair to add this information now, since Joel Stein is a trusted source and because it's another interesting fact which people want to know. Shalom11111 (talk) 04:58, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

Do with the article as you wish. As for Joel Stein, he is as trusted as a camel's back hump. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 05:01, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

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I am not "established" to edit protected pages, but since you frequent the Clint Eastwood article, take notice of this recent edit where Joekiddlouischama knowingly and intentionally removed extensively sourced facts, rewrote neutral sentences with heavy opinion incorporated into them, and deliberately inserted lies. Mystiques00 (talk) 04:22, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Your input would be appreciated

I would like input regarding This edit. I have had a lengthy discussion with the editor, who has been very civil with me but we have yet to reach an agreement

• The US.com article where Dina Eastwood exclusively announced her marital separation states: Married since March 31, 1996, Dina and the Million Dollar Baby director have one daughter together, 16-year-old Morgan. Eastwood is also dad to seven other kids, though he has only been married once before.

• The Los Angeles Times states that Eastwood has 8 children: Clint has one child with Dina: 16-year-old Morgan. The "Gran Torino" director and actor has seven other children from various relationships

• USA Today also confirms that Eastwood has 8 children: The couple have one daughter, Morgan, 16. Eastwood has seven other children.

• As does EXTRA.com: The couple has one daughter together, 16-year-old Morgan. Eastwood, 83, has seven other children from various relationships

• Alison Eastwood stated "My dad has eight children by six women" in an August 2011 interview with The Sunday Times.

These are all very reliable sources. The third is especially concrete — his own daughter confirms that he has eight kids by six women. The quote should be restored, because all evidence indicates that it's the truth. There are no legitimate news reports stating who the mystery 8th child is, but that should not prevent the statement and the quote stating how many children he has from being present in the article. 02:16, 30 August 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mystiques00 (talk • contribs)

User:Mystiques00 is guilty of canvassing even after he had been warned not to. I have asked him to remove his non-neutral canvassing posts to you and other editors. As for the arguments he posits for an unsubstantiated rumor, they've already been addressed and debunked at Talk:Clint Eastwood. --Tenebrae (talk) 17:32, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

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In one episode of The Critic, Lovitz's character Jay Sherman comments on the actual Jon Lovitz's "Sephardic good looks." I was confused about this too, as it appears that Lovitz's ancestry is entirely Ashkenazi (Hungarian, etc.). My guess is that it was just a deliberate in-joke based on Lovitz's complexion, or the show's writers did not do the research on Lovitz for a show starring Lovitz, and Lovitz himself didn't complain. BenStein69 (talk) 23:11, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

Yes, it was probably a joke. I've seen many such errors/jokes about other people. There is a very solid account of Jon Lovitz's ancestry here. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 00:19, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

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You added back in that Natasha Lyonne is a stage name. It is not. It has not been sourced in any way as a stage name since she was a child. It was her name in public records that notified the press of her legal issues in her youth.

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You added back in that Natasha Lyonne is a stage name. It is not. It has not been sourced in any way as a stage name since she was a child. It was her name in public records that notified the press of her legal issues in her youth. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jodisc (talk • contribs) 14:46, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

The field says "birth name", so only her name at birth is relevant to that particular section. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 22:23, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

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It probably refers to the IMDB source (not external link) - number 7? Apparently, IMDB is not considered a "reliable source" @ Wikipedia. =//= Johnny Squeaky 19:32, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

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Regarding your recent edit to the Debra Winger page; could you be a bit more specific about the reason for deleting "The Being Experience"? The edit summary listed as the reason "not on imdb". Did you mean that the credit was not listed on her imdb entry, or that an imdb reference is not sufficient for inclusion? It does appear here: [32] at the top of her list of acting credits. The reference to the upcoming project is also listed in several other sources: (search results) [33], (source 1) [34], (source 2) [35], (source 3) [36], and (source 4) [37]. If you don't have any continuing objections, would you mind restoring the information? Best regards. OliverTwisted <sup>(Talk)</sup>(Stuff) 09:16, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

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Hi there. I saw that you were involved in this conversation. I made this revert but it is reverted as possible vandalism. However, I would not make any edit-war 'cause I'm not involved much here, so let you decide for any further edits. BR.--C3r4 ((ask me)) 19:24, 12 January 2014 (UTC)--C3r4 ((ask me)) 19:24, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

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has eli wallach retired? i know he hasnt done a film since 2010 and dont think he will be in any more — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.97.141.85 (talk) 16:58, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

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So, if you wouldn't mind looking at a table I created to show the different movies that the actors that work a lot with Judd Apatow, (Seth Rogan, James Franco, Paul Rudd, Jonah Hill, etc), and thought it might be beneficial for users to look at. I created a draft for it here, I was originally going to do more people that collaborate a lot together but realized that would take me forever so now it's just the table. What do you think? Let me know, thanks :) LADY LOTUS • TALK 17:37, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

Thank you :) Do you think it needs work, or anything added/changed, or should I add to it a few of their pages and see how it goes? Also, should it be a template that can be edited so that all of them will be edited instead of just a couple when there will be more projects? LADY LOTUS • TALK 14:13, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

Or how about this ? LADY LOTUS • TALK 15:11, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

Simon Kunz

Why did you edit my post on regards to SImon kunz surname Kunz is a German last name but feel free to prove me otherwise. Also I used a reliable site which uses real life documents and etc.

The source didn't mention Simon Kunz, so it's original research (WP:NOR) and speculation. You could add a statement about someone's last name to every article in a similar manner. It isn't generally notable unless it's about the specific person. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 04:22, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

I should be able to add his last name is German at least.

For the record, the farthest back I can work out his ancestry (here and here) is Kunz's great-grandfather, William Kunz, who was born in England, to Henry Kunz and Dorathea, who are also listed as born in England. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 04:31, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

You forgot the name Kunz is virtually non existant in England and is a name originating in Germany so I dont see your point. Also Ralph Fiennes had his name mentioned as Norman how distant can you get eh.I would also like to add my last name is English and German this is because many anglo saxons were from Germany but in the case of Kunz this is not a case of same name in different countries.

Oh, just add what you want... I'm sure he's not of Jewish heritage, so you should at least leave that out. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 04:46, 5 May 2014 (UTC)Thank you, but I wouldnt be so dissmissive about the jewish part but nvm that. Hes probablyy mostly British anyway because his last name only belonged to one man in the male line. Much like Tolkien.

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On ROBERT CULP page add "Killjoy" aka "Who Murdered Joy Morgan" 1981 made for TV. May have been Kim Basinger's first movie. It's not on her page either. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.158.150.214 (talk) 14:44, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

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Re. [38] — I didn't see any objections to the updated proposal at WT:EGRS#Defining after the off-topic subsection? --Francis Schonken (talk) 08:46, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

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Please do not insert refs that are bare URL's or incomplete refs- I can't take malformatted refs at the Katy Perry article right now as it is in the middle of an FAC. You are welcome to leave comments there, but please don't insert incomplete refs. As for her ancestry, I was advised to get official biographies when possible, so that's why only the Kimberly Dillon Summers book is used. Yes, she does give her ancestral background in the book. No, additional refs are not needed. Sorry for any misunderstandings, just thought I should explain. Snuggums (talk / edits) 04:45, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

Also, using the name of a field in both "work" and "publisher" at same time is not proper formatting. Snuggums (talk / edits) 04:48, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

If for example one uses MTV in a ref twice, like this:

<ref>{{cite web|url=*insert link*|title=*insert title*|work=MTV|publisher=MTV|date=*insert date*|accessdate=*insert accessdate*|author=*insert author*}}</ref>

It will make MTV appear once in italics and once without italics. The work and publisher are two separate fields. The publisher is the owner of the work. For example, MTV's publisher/owner is Viacom, ABC News is owned by The Walt Disney Company, and AllMusic is owned by All Media Network.

Regarding Summers, her list of references at the end of the book does not at any point cite Wikipedia itself. Many internet refs, yes, but not Wikipedia. There are also other biographers such as Noam Friedlander and Alice Hudson who have books on her. Some biographers are more accurate than others, like for example these three are all more accurate than Chloe Govan's book. As for ancestry, the book talks about her mother's heritage but nothing on her father's. Not sure what is "absurd" or "ridiculous" about saying she has Portuguese or German background. Keep in mind that surnames often suggest certain heritages but do not always indicate one's ancestry. The link you provided doesn't give any information on father's heritage either. In any case, my gut tells me that biographers would be preferred. I'm not saying your ref is bad, but I'm not too sure if FAC would accept it. Snuggums (talk / edits) 05:17, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

Stop, stop. It's obviously a good reference and one that has actually looked at her ancestry. Anyway, if there's nothing else I'm not sure what else is there to say. The reference is formatted now, which you could have done also if that was such an issue. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 05:19, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

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Let me know if you were saying what I think you were in your reverts of NemesisFY's edits. Snuggums (talk / edits) 21:02, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

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Can I ask for your source saying Frbruary isn't correct? As well, your hidden messages are confusing. "February 9 1982 please do not change", then you also put "February isn't correct". I don't particularly find Cinemablend and Ovguide reliable. As well, the Huffington Post has him as "37", as well as a recent magazine of GQ. Rusted AutoParts 21:57, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

My message wasn't confusing, someone changed it afterwards. My message just said that he wasn't born in 1982 nor in February. If you go to Birthdatabase and search for Boseman's name, you'll see the only Chadwick A. Boseman was born November 29, 1976. That fits with some of the sources you cite that say he's 37. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 21:59, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

Here's GQ: "You graduate college and then, eleven years later, at 35, you land your first starring role"[39]. Rusted AutoParts 22:01, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

Yes, that's right. He was born on November 29, 1976. I was the one who changed the date to 1976. Others edited it afterwards to 1982. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 22:01, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

Which I now realize. Would you be against me adding November 29 in? Rusted AutoParts 22:03, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

I would definitely like that. It's just annoying because someone will likely change it shortly thereafter. At least there are two of us now. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 22:04, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

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Just want to relay that Cumberbatch and Hunter have been seeing each other since late 2013 contrary to "early 2014" which the Daily Mail and other rags are reporting and is currently indicated in his personal life section.

• It's indicated in his profile for Elle UK here: http://www.elleuk.com/wedding/benedict-cumberbatch-engaged-sophie-hunter-november-2014-confirmed

• It's also indicated in his latest profile for People magazine. Scans of print interview are here as there are no digital copy available: http://cumberbum.tumblr.com/post/103576341571/69shadesofyou-okay-i-did-some-scans-at-work

NOTE: I know the Daily Mail is not reliable source that's the very reason why the info should be amended because that "until early 2014" was actually information from them. The scans are from People magazine where it says they got together late last year and have been together for a year now before getting engaged. He was even featured on the cover in this week's issue: http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2014/news/141208/cosby-cover-768.jpg. One can always reference a print article here and in this case scans of the interview are available to prove it. That's already two non-tabloid publications referencing the "late 2013" timeline.

Thank you for improving both Hunter's and Cumberbatch's profiles! 31.223.159.213 (talk) 22:35, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

Here's a clearer iPad version. If the timeline is confusing it's safe to just indicate that they got engaged after a year of dating like indicated: http://38.media.tumblr.com/3baaf9e7fc0b0fab74807254f444a343/tumblr_nfmwiszdhL1ql37t2o5_1280.jpg 37.208.166.122 (talk) 08:38, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

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Taylor Negron

Just saw your edit of Negron's name at the Taylor Negron article. While I'm glad to have a middle name for him at the article, it's my understanding that we shouldn't really be using the California Birth Index as a reference. It's pretty unreliable and frequently the information contained there is incorrect (my own grandfather's name and his mother's name at the CBI are both misspelled and his date of birth is wrong, for one example). It's actually a raw records dump rather than an official record. I'm only bringing this up because the reference and associated content might end up being removed at some point. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 06:19, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

The record I just added for his middle name isn't a California Birth Record. Rather, it's a public record of residence. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 06:27, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

My sincere apologies. Yes, you are correct. The CBI reference was already there. Thanks for being kind in your reply and not telling me to get lost. lol -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 06:45, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

We have conflicting sources. One that I provided a while ago stated his middle name was Taylor, not Stephen. Rather than discussing, you chose to revert the sourced content I added out and you removed referenced content about Negron's Jewish heritage. This really should be discussed rather than edit warred over. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 01:43, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

Do we have to debate his middle name out of custom? His California Birth Record says it starts with an "S" and public records say "Stephen". There really is nothing left to say. As for being Jewish, he often said his father was Jewish, but once said his mother was. And all of Negron's grandparents were Puerto Rican. I doubt any of them were Jewish. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 04:45, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

The CBI is a raw records dump and is not a reliable source (already noted this above last night). The public record website you provided is frequently wrong. Why not just wait until the obituary comes out and we can add a middle name and/or initial then? As far as his heritage being partly Jewish, it's reliably sourced, so it should stay regardless of your personal assessment of whether he could or could not have been Jewish. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 04:52, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

It isn't a "raw records" dump. There might be a typo or whatnot, but the same is true for any set of records/documents. I've been in what must have been several thousand of this type of argument over birth names, dates, and ancestries. What I was arguing for is now displayed on Wikipedia in just about every one of those times - and Wikipedia is more accurate for it (for example, tonight's Golden Globes winner Matt Bomer's birthplace; which I knew was wrong and was finally corrected in 2014). If I've been wrong, and I'm not sure I have been, it would have been once or twice. Frankly, I just don't care enough in this case, so go ahead and make him a half-Jew named "Brad Taylor Negron". You're just wasting your time. But the name is "Stephen" and you're going to have to pick which incorrect version of his ancestry you want to record - was it his father who was Jewish, or his mother who was Jewish, and don't forget to add that he was part Italian and Iranian, which has also been stated in "reliable sources". All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 05:02, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

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All Hallow's Wraith, please fix your aforementioned errors, and don't remove a maintenance template whose issues have not been resolved. Lapadite (talk) 06:40, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

The maintenance template shouldn't be there if most of the article is already sourced, and if most of what's not sourced is individually tagged with "fact", which it is. Between the 125 citations and the "fact" tags added, the template at the top isn't needed. As for formatting my citations, there's no such onus on me. You could've formatted at least one, or probably more, of them in the time you spent writing to me. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 06:57, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

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Your actions are being regretted. It's always nice to hear the other side. Shenme (talk) 04:48, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

My actions are usually being regretted, yes. I don't mind this, though, as long as the term somehow links to the film, which it didn't before. Perhaps the movie will gross $600 million and trump any opposing arguments. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 06:38, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

Elsewhere someone was fixing up a pair of pages and wondering if a disambiguation page was needed. I did a hatnote like you did and they were happy. Eventually it works out. :-) Shenme (talk) 03:45, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

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Can you add Hugh's religion to his page for me, please? http://parade.com/426939/dotsonrader/the-hugh-you-never-knew/2/

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.29.29.78 (talk) 21:03, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Done. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 00:54, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

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Jackson Nicoll

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