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Heleen Mees -[edit]

Please stop deleting your year of birth, place of birth and maiden name from the Heleen Mees article.

I see you've already been told this User_talk:Velocitas#Heleen_Mees as far back as May 2013 but continue to delete anyway. 50.74.152.2 (talk) 18:14, 14 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Heleen[edit]

What is your objection to:

In March 2014, Mees was sentenced to therapy and if she successfully completes one year of probation, the charges against her will be dropped.[10][11]

That sentence is perfectly backed up by

http://online.wsj.com/article/AP35e7f881be7841169dff04a021abd01a.html

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/economist-deal-stalking-case-article-1.1716671

50.74.152.2 (talk) 18:16, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

My objection is that there was no trial, there is no verdict, there is no guilty plea and therefore there is no sentencing. Also, there is no probation. The case is adjourned and will be dismissed automatically. Therefore, all charges against Mees are set for dismissal is the right phrase.

Also, you can not cite the ADA's reply to the motion to dismiss as proof of anything, as the ADA is not neutral by any standard.

Furthermore, all the references used are toxic, pointing to the Buiter accusations that have not been proven and that Mees has denied categorically. More neutral references, like Mees' publishing house are called for.

I know people hate Mees, but Wikipedia is not the place to go after her. (comment by IP 50.75.245.202)

"A Dutch academic charged with stalking a prominent economist is poised to get the New York City misdemeanor case dismissed if she goes to therapy and stays out of trouble for a year." from http://online.wsj.com/article/AP35e7f881be7841169dff04a021abd01a.html

"Mees, 44, took a deal that will result in the stalking charge against her being dropped if she stays away from her married ex, Willem Buiter, undergoes 14 counseling sessions and doesn't get arrested" from http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/economist-deal-stalking-case-article-1.1716671

<-- These two sources say that you were sentenced to therapy and if you complete the therapy and one year of probation, they will drop the charges. That's literally what those two sources say. 50.74.152.2 (talk) 19:01, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You are not a lawyer apparently, but for a sentence you need a guilty verdict. Since there is neither a guilty verdict nor a guilty plea, there is no sentence/punishment. There is no probation, there is an adjournment. (comment by IP 50.75.245.202)

You took a plea. Read those sources. You don't seem to understand English very well.50.74.152.2 (talk) 19:17, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, Mees did not take a guilty plea. She did not plead guilty to any of the charges. Mees denies all the accusations.

By the way, none of your sources mentions 'plea.' That's what you make of it in your dreams.(comment by IP 50.75.245.202)

You took a plea. This source says you did:

http://nypost.com/2014/03/10/stalker-ex-nyu-prof-takes-plea-deal-but-plans-defamation-suit/

‘Stalker’ ex-NYU prof takes plea deal, but plans defamation suit

I know English isn't your first language. 50.74.152.2 (talk) 01:19, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That NY Post article is dead wrong, as I wrote before, and you only found it because I pointed it out to you. WSJ and NY Daily News don't mention a plea, because Mees did not take a plea.

There was no trial, there is no verdict, there is no guilty plea and therefore there is no sentencing and there is no probation.

Why don't you check the court documents as I did?

Anyway, I doubt further talk will solve this issue between us.

Heleen Mees[edit]

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