Talk:Tanya Reinhart

Does Tanya Reinhart self-identify as a post-zionist?

In the Post-Zionism article someone has listed Tanya Reinhart as a post-Zionist. There was no source listed. There is now a category for post zionists here Category:Post-Zionists. If someone finds a source for this, can you please add the category and describe him as such in the body of the article? Thanks. --Deodar 14:40, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Please add an interwiki to the Dutch Wikipedia [nl: Tanya Reinhart] (By the way, according to the Hebrew Wikipedia, TR was born 1944) 80.126.224.211 17:55, 19 March 2007 (UTC) I remembered, she defined herself as anti-Zionist.User:Lamerkhav

How to add link to her page when it is protected

How do you add something to this page? I wanted to put a link to an interview with her from http://www.alternativenews.org/podcasts/podcasts/news-from-within-podcast-elections-occupation-and-solidarity---an-interview-withtanya-reinhart-20070206.html Rifters 20:44, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

done ابو علي (Abu Ali) 20:50, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Please edit the link to "Al-Jazeera"

The link to the article, "Palestinian Organizations Mourn..." is from Al-Jazeerah, not Al-Jazeera. There is a difference! Can someone please make the change?

Why did Reinhart leave Israel?

The Hebrew article cites a different reason. It says that since Reinhart signed the petition to boycott Israeli academia, the university started harassing her, and after three years of horrible treatment, she decided to leave across the sea. While the English version states a less personal, more political reason for leaving Israel. Both are sourced, but both cannot be true. Ideas? Personally, I tend to believe the Hebrew source. Not only because the Democracy Now source is secondhand (Goodman is the one who says she leaves for political reason, while in the Academia-Monitor source it's Reinhart herself who explains her reasons for leaving), but also since it makes less sense. Nothing in particular happened in 2006/7 in re: to Israeli treatment of Palestinians that would warrant her suddenly leaving her job and country. --Telecart 13:27, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

The two explanations are not contradictory so could both be correct. ابو علي (Abu Ali) 22:09, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

It's only unlikely. Since I knew her a bit, I personally find Goodman's view suspect. If anyone could find perhaps an additional source for this that would be great --Telecart 22:43, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

It is interesting that none of the elements of that Hebrew article are mentioned in the English-language biography. I wonder who is the editor who erased my contribution trying to protect. Without understanding Tanya Reinharts critics, we can't understand what really happened to her--rafvrab 03:23, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Steven Plaut controversy

See here: [1] [2]

Anyway, it's apparently a controversy where Steven Plaut may have said some harsh words about Reinhart after she passed away. Do you think it's relevant for the article?

Basically, the story is that Plaut apparently sent emails to the whole university , where he claimed that this person, Reinhart, who is now dead and it's not WP:BLP, WAS A WITCH. This was written in the format of a song. This SEEMS A LEGITIMATE PARODY. We have no evidence that he wrote it though, but he was blamed for it. Maybe it should be inserted to the article. See the link above for details. Amoruso (talk) 00:40, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

The attack on Reinhart was sent anonymously to subscribers to the Israeli Academic Left (Alef) mailing list. Although many believe Plaut to be responsible, this has never been established. Since similar allegations about Plaut were removed from the article about him following an OTRS request[3], it is highly irresponsible to attempt to reinsert the allegation elsewhere. It seems particularly odd coming from someone far more sympathetic to Plaut than I am.

The same day as the circulation of this attack to the Alef list, a virtually identical attack was added to the article about Shimon Tzabar, by a vandal subsequently blocked as a sockpuppet of Runtshit. Subsequently, the same attack was recycled as an attack on Baruch Kimmerling following his death. The repeated addition of this scurrilous material seems an attempt to misuse Wikipedia in order to smear critics of Israeli policy. It is certainly not encyclopaedic, and has no place in the articles about the victims of such attacks. RolandR (talk) 08:58, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Why do you think that I'm sympathetic toward Plaut more than you? Far more? Are you editing articles according to your WP:POV? I am not PRO or CON Steven Plaut. I thought this might be interesting material and relevant for the article. You say "many Believe Plaut to be responsible" - this shows it's a significant prominent event. Googling it this appears too in quite detail and seems formal complaints were made about the "Ding Dong the witch is dead!" song. [4] Did plaut also sent the song about Shimon Tzabar or Kimmerling? If not, I don't see how the fact that a user used the same song, if that user is not a famous person like Plaut, any interesting. I checked the diff now and saw the OTRS. I didn't know about OTRS before. This means I guess that proof was provided that it's not Plaut? Then I agree, it shouldn't be in the article. Amoruso (talk) 09:07, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

It is next-to-impossible to prove a negative. It would be more accurate to say that no proof was provided that Plaut was involved. In any case, if the material cannot be cited in the article about the alleged perpetrator of this smear, where it might be relevant, it should certainly not be included in articles about the victims. RolandR (talk) 10:24, 25 April 2008 (UTC)