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Not only dogs wear harnesses.[edit]

I have seen pigs and even cats wear harnesse that were specifically designed for them. This article is all about pet harnesses. I am going to move the title to "Pet harness" and change what it says about harnesses being only for dogs and provide references. There are literally no existing articles about pet harnesses in general; harnesses used on animals other than dogs, but yet dozens of Wikimedia Commons photos of them and articles and that mention them and link here. SaltySemanticSchmuck (talk) 06:34, 5 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Dog training harnesses?[edit]

How are they used for dog training? I fixed the grammar on the section, but it still doesn’t make sense. SaltySemanticSchmuck (talk) 00:36, 21 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Splitting proposal[edit]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
The result of this discussion was to Split AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 23:17, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I propose that sections §§ Sled dog harnesses, Assistance dog harnesses, and Lifting harnesses be split into a separate page called Draft:Dog harness. Dog harnesses are notable enough on their own and these sections together with the content of the said draft are large enough to make their own page. Moreover, the majority of the 34 pages that link to the redirected page titled 'Dog harness' and the majority of the other 24 pages that link to the page titled 'Pet harness' refers to dog harnesses and not pet harnesses in general. This is a major reason for ending the redirection and creating a new Dog harness article. Repassyz (talk) 19:02, 9 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This article is only 9.3kb in size. There is only one half-reliable source - Humanesociety.org and at any stage any editor can come along and cull most of it as unreferenced to reliable sources. I will leave it up to others as to whether it should/could be split or not. William Harris (talk) 08:34, 12 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I could live without this splitting. My original plan was to create Draft:Dog harness but my request was declined because dog harnesses are partly covered in this article. I can edit this article and add more content about dog harnesses but then the focus of this article will move towards dog harnesses and that again would require splitting them. IMHO the encyclopedia would be better off with a good Dog harness article that would leave Pet harness a stub. Repassyz (talk) 11:54, 12 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Given the sled dog harness and assistance dog harness sections have no citations at all I am not sure splitting into several articles is a good idea. That being said, I don’t think they belong in pet harness as neither are pets, perhaps a new section at sled dog and assistance dog would be more appropriate. Cavalryman (talk) 22:45, 12 January 2021 (UTC).[reply]
I added more content to Draft:Dog harness It now contains the substance of the above mentioned sections of this Pet harness article. Do you think that in the absence of any further argument we could restore the original Dog harness article with the content of my draft? Repassyz (talk) 16:05, 4 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Cavalryman, Sled dog harness and assistance dog harness sections can move to Dog harness then, since that does with dogs regardless of whether they are utility/labor or pet. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 18:50, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
AngusWOOF, thank you for the ping. I am happy for the creation of a dog harness article, but the current draft is nowhere near GNG.
  • Only the first six of the fourteen citations should be considered reliable, as has been discussed extensively elsewhere the AKC is only reliable for their own breed standards and activities.
  • Of those six none that I can see provide WP:SIGCOV on the topic of dog harnesses if they discuss it at all.
So, whilst I do not object to notion of such an article, it needs to meet our minimum standards for creation. Cavalryman (talk) 22:22, 16 March 2021 (UTC).[reply]
Cavalryman, I suggest scrapping those sections or commenting them out if they aren't supported by reliable sources. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 22:48, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Cavalryman, let me see what I can do with making it at least stub level. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 22:49, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
SaltySemanticSchmuck, since you were the editor that had the article renamed to pet harness, do you have any thoughts about this split? AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 16:27, 4 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hello AngusW🐶🐶F May I ask for how long will we wait for an answer of an editor who seems to be inactive for almost two months? When can we close this discussion? Also can you help me with Draft:Dog harness for I don't seem to sense how the Choosing section is not neutral. It must be due to the fact that English is not my native language. Can you help me out with that? Still, IMHO the draft now is a better article than this one. Repassyz (talk) 17:08, 24 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that this article should be split with the "Dog harness" article taking up these sections - many dog harnesses used for work, assistance and training are not used for "pets" and thus should not fall under an article regarding and referring specifically to "pet" harnesses. However, we need a more significant number of sources as William Harris noted. I have a number of text sources on sled dog harnesses which I can use to add to Draft:Dog harness but I do not think sled dog harnesses would be, or are, sufficient enough to justify a separate article yet. Mcfuggins (talk) 05:56, 2 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Sled dog and assistance dog variants can be added to the dog harness articles, provided they are reliably sourced. The referencing for the pet harness article is not that good either, so I am removing those sections from the pet one. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 23:16, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Let's continue discussion and updates on Talk:Dog harness. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 23:17, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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