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User:AngusWOOF, perhaps you might like to explain why a bunch of websites (above) with either no author provided, nor any references drawn upon - and in some cases neither - would be good to recommend expanding this article with. Some WP:SECONDARY sources would be preferable. William Harris (talk) 23:50, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
AngusWOOF, it is disappointing that a draft in such a dire state was accepted, do you have access to some sources that provide SIGCOV or are you happy that this be nominated to be redirected somewhere? Cavalryman (talk) 00:15, 17 March 2021 (UTC).[reply]
Cavalryman, the problem is that even the pet harness article is pretty crappy in sourcing, which is why a WP:PERMASTUB article might be where it needs to be. I don't understand why the refideas ones are not reliable. They are coming from RS. I'll try to find more from books and media. There are a bunch of old books on google search that reference dog harnesses. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 00:24, 17 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Respectfully, the antidote to poorly or unsourced articles is not more poorly or non-notable permastubs. Where we are now is the best sources available appear to be about dog pet harnesses, as opposed to the proposed broader topic area, so a re-merger with that page may be in order. Cavalryman (talk) 01:06, 17 March 2021 (UTC).[reply]
Further, the article says: The general function of the dog harness is to replace the collar. It spares the neck and provides free breathing during daily walks. And later: Nowadays, the dog harness is used by most people when walking their dog. This confirms it is just about dog pet harnesses. Cavalryman (talk) 01:36, 17 March 2021 (UTC).[reply]
I removed the replace the collar as that is not true. Dogs can wear both collars and harnesses at the same time. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 20:25, 17 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I plan to supplement this article heavily with my own print sources at my earliest convenience, as I feel strongly that it is incomplete and does not push the article to meet general notability. However, working dog harnesses (NOT pet harnesses) have an abundance of source material to pull from and are notably different enough. None of the working harnesses listed in this article are used for "pets" at all, therefore re-merging with Pet harnesses is entirely inappropriate. I'm very happy to take on the task of supplementing some of this article with secondary and possibly even primary sources.Mcfuggins (talk) 02:03, 18 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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