Talk:On Meaning
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Notability[edit]
Hello Ofir michael I recently noticed this article and saw that it lacks much coverage in WP:RELIABLE and independent secondary sources. I’m not sure whether the subject really passes WP:GNG and was wondering whether you were aware of more sources (possibly in non-English sources) that discuss the podcast in more depth. The www.20il.co.il and www.inn.co.il sources are better than nothing, but it’s pretty limited coverage and I can’t tell how reliable the sources are (one doesn’t appear much better than a WP:BLOG). If you can’t find more sources I intend to pursue WP:PROD and then WP:AFD. TipsyElephant (talk) 19:41, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
- I added some sources.Ofir michael (talk) 11:09, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
- @Ofir michael: I'm still unconvinced of the show's notability. Lists of articles written by the show's host do not contribute to the show's notability. Similarly, the BuzzSprout sources only demonstrate that WP:ITEXISTS. And articles like the republished content from Israel 365 News only mention the podcast in passing rather than providing in depth coverage that would help in writing the article with WP:NOR. The Hebrew News article is entirely WP:INTERVIEW content, which means it's a primary source not a secondary source. The host possibly passes WP:BIO or WP:GNG, but the show does not WP:INHERIT notability from its hosts or guests. Would you be open to renaming the article Tamir Dortal? Even then I'm not entirely sure the host is notable. TipsyElephant (talk) 12:07, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
- I don't think that the article should be about Tamir Dortal. By Isreali standard, this show is notable with a great deal of downloads. It is scarcely funded. Take a look at the partial list for guests which is consist of government ministers and officials, parliament members from both sides, religious leaders, academy professors, journalists and activists. He has recently interviewed Ben Shapiro and Dennis Prager.Ofir michael (talk) 12:35, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
- @Ofir michael: as I said before, the show does not WP:INHERIT notability from its hosts or guests. To demonstrate that the show is independently notable reliable secondary sources with in depth coverage of the show itself (not the host or guests) need to be presented. WP:GNG also suggests that more than one reliable secondary source with in depth coverage is generally expected. TipsyElephant (talk) 13:13, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
- I don't think that the article should be about Tamir Dortal. By Isreali standard, this show is notable with a great deal of downloads. It is scarcely funded. Take a look at the partial list for guests which is consist of government ministers and officials, parliament members from both sides, religious leaders, academy professors, journalists and activists. He has recently interviewed Ben Shapiro and Dennis Prager.Ofir michael (talk) 12:35, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
- @Ofir michael: I'm still unconvinced of the show's notability. Lists of articles written by the show's host do not contribute to the show's notability. Similarly, the BuzzSprout sources only demonstrate that WP:ITEXISTS. And articles like the republished content from Israel 365 News only mention the podcast in passing rather than providing in depth coverage that would help in writing the article with WP:NOR. The Hebrew News article is entirely WP:INTERVIEW content, which means it's a primary source not a secondary source. The host possibly passes WP:BIO or WP:GNG, but the show does not WP:INHERIT notability from its hosts or guests. Would you be open to renaming the article Tamir Dortal? Even then I'm not entirely sure the host is notable. TipsyElephant (talk) 12:07, 1 September 2021 (UTC)