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I can't believe Dragon Ball has been brought back to 260M copies in circulation, despite it being notoriously wrong[edit]

For years now there have been several well-known and important sources that put the manga at over 300M copies in circulation, some even at 350M. Even adding the official sales country by country it easily exceeds 300M, but the number here never changes

The fact that it's still at 260M in particular due to the stubbornness of some users is simply absurd, and does damage to the reliability of an otherwise exemplary wikipedia page which, among other things, is also used as a source by many sites and articles which then spread this error. I can only hope it gets fixed soon 146.241.94.211 (talk) 11:03, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I have added 3 sources that state Dragon Ball total sales are 300 million. I have thus changed the number of total sales to 300 million and rearranged the order in the table. Luka316 (talk) 08:43, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Wonderful, many thanks for the excellent work 146.241.67.11 (talk) 21:36, 17 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
350M figures comes from 2009, and since then many other sources started using at random times, including Wikipedia and have been circular reported WP:CIRCULAR and WP:AGE should use new figures and here is a reliable year by break down of the numbers with multiple reliable sources.

Sales worldwide - 260 million copies

as you can see the gradual increase of the numbers over the years, not random figures. Beastmastah (talk) 16:59, 7 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

All these datas are incorrect.
Dragon Ball sold 350M copies worldwide as stated by Shueisha, Toei Animation and oricon.jp.
link:https://i.gzn.jp/img/2009/03/21/db_kai/db_kai_04_m.jpg
https://www.toei-anim.co.jp/movie/2013_dragonballz/news/30.html
https://www.oricon.co.jp/news/61072/full/
All sources reporting the 260 million are incorrect because they refer to old data that are not up to date. 2A02:B121:8012:18BE:C0F7:5FB5:ECB:555C (talk) 10:10, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
300 Million (2024)
link: Weekly Shonen Jump Numbers Rank Its Top 10 Best-Selling Series of All Time 158.47.227.105 (talk) 01:43, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

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  2. ^ "歴代発行部数ランキング | 漫画全巻ドットコム". www.mangazenkan.com. Retrieved 2020-06-17.
  3. ^ "なぜ黒人男性はドラゴンボールが好きなのか?". GIGAZINE (in Japanese). November 18, 2017. Archived from the original on April 2, 2019. Retrieved January 23, 2019.
  4. ^ Akira Toriyama (November 2, 2018). "DRAGON BALL" jump best scene TOP 10 (Shueisha Mook) (in Japanese). Shueisha. ISBN 9784081022717. Archived from the original on January 25, 2019. Retrieved January 25, 2019. Images from the book stating 250 Million worldwide sales. See [1] Archived February 10, 2019, at the Wayback Machine See [2] Archived February 10, 2019, at the Wayback Machine
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Dragon Ball sold 350M copies worldwide[edit]

Dragon Ball sold 350M copies worldwide as stated by Shueisha, Toei Animation and oricon.jp.

link: https://i.gzn.jp/img/2009/03/21/db_kai/db_kai_04_m.jpg

https://www.toei-anim.co.jp/movie/2013_dragonballz/news/30.html

https://www.oricon.co.jp/news/61072/full/

All sources reporting the 260 million are incorrect because they refer to old data that are not up to date. 2A02:B121:8012:18BE:C0F7:5FB5:ECB:555C (talk) 10:08, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Natalie Comic, Toei Animation, Oricon, and these brand new ones from MaiNichi and Nikkei (I'm sure you can find more), all have Dragon Ball at 260m in circulation. The sources you're posting are over a decade old, and there was never a 260m figure posted prior to the 2008 source you're providing for it to be old data. But I do believe an update to 270m may be coming soon. ManjirouEdits (talk) 02:35, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
300M updated
https://www.cbr.com/shonen-jump-top-best-selling-series-rank/#:~:text=Shonen%20Jump's%20Top%2010%20Manga%20Series%20to%20Date%20(By%20Circulation%20Copies)&text=Unsurprisingly%2C%20the%20top%20three%20best,%2C%20is%20ranked%20at%20%237. 158.47.227.105 (talk) 01:41, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 11 March 2024[edit]

Dragon ball has 350 million copies in circulation according to multiple sources including shueisha and oricon news. The references are there in the dragon ball separate wikipedia page. Pasting the link for oricon below https://www.oricon.co.jp/news/61072/full/ Kazeshini78 (talk) 16:59, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Recent reports (from official sources) state figures lower than that, like this press release from Toei,[7], so I assume that the figure from that 2008 article was just not accurate. Xexerss (talk) 17:23, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah if it was at 350 million in 2008 why would sources published within the last few weeks place it at 260 million? If the 2008 number was correct at the time I would expect it to be more like 400 million now, yet they report far under that. I'm not sure where that number originated, but I think this is probably a case where WP:CONTEXTMATTERS should be taken into account. Link20XX (talk) 18:07, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Not done: as above. Irltoad (talk) 19:18, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Update content[edit]

Hello there. Please update the content of this article. One Piece has now 108 volumes and Detective Conan has 105 volumes, for example. Please reply! Thanks! 181.93.140.3 (talk) 18:43, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Weekly Shonen Jump Numbers Rank Its Top 10 Best-Selling Series of All Time[edit]

Dragon Ball - 300 million (2024)

Source: Shonen Jump's Top 10 Manga Series to Date 158.47.227.105 (talk) 01:45, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The CBR article you linked here also says the source is an unrevified fan account and While the graphic is fan-made, the sales data featured appears to be accurate to what's been publicly shared by Shonen Jump and its publisher, Shueisha, which suggests they did not fact check it at all. This clearly fails WP:RS. Link20XX (talk) 03:56, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unlisted manga[edit]

I've been checking the site linked below and while some manga has lower numbers than listed here (most likely because they're outdated) there were some titles missing from the table:
- Onihei Hankachō (30 million copies)
- Negima is listed but at 20 million copies compared to 26 million copies there.
Sword Art Online (30 million copies), The Irregular at Magic High School (22 million copies) and Slayers (20 million copies) are also listed there but looks like those numbers are from light novel sales.
Source: Mangazenkan's total sales list
85.140.92.101 (talk) 13:20, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ok after some googling I've realised that Negima is listed at 26m there because that also includes UQ HOLDER! sales as a part of the series.
Also as far as I can see this page has That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime, The Apothecary Diaries, A Certain Magical Index, Haruhi Suzumiya which are all originally light novels so there's no reason to not include Sword Art Online, The Irregular at Magic High School and Slayers sales as well after all. 85.140.92.101 (talk) 12:38, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]