Talk:Adolf Ziegler

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unsourced apologism[edit]

In the latter part of the article, the following unsourced statement appears: "He also wrote a response to Paul Ortwin Rave's first-hand accounts of the Entartete Kunst exhibition in Munich, arguing with Rave's assertions, but experts like Rave were not ready to analyze his standpoint objectively at that time."

This is an outrageously obvious non-neutral and apologetic statement that would require extremely solid sourcing to even be considered for inclusion - it all but explicitly calls not accepting Ziegler's views (which are not even stated, let alone discussed critically) being unobjective and calls his views a "standpoint", but those of Rave "assertions". This is totally unacceptable for any encyclopedic article, and especially so in the case of this extremely controversial person. I suggest removing the quoted portion altogether, but I'd like to hear other suggestions. 82.176.221.176 (talk) 12:18, 28 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

As no response to the above has been posted after more than three months, I edited this part myself. I removed the "but experts like [...] at that time" phrase, and left the preceding part ("He also wrote [...] with Rave's assertions") intact. It retains all the information of the previous version, but takes out the unsourced POV. 82.176.221.176 (talk) 09:36, 7 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Paintings?[edit]

According to the main text the paintings were the reason for expelling Ziegler after the second world war. This could be true but I think it was even more likely his active position during the thirties, forcing some important German artists into exile or worse made his position impossible. Perhaps some sources from this period could clearify the reason behind his exclusion.