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- @Onel5969:, hello, very nice of you coming by and telling me about the article. Yes, I have explained why we need the article "Tokyo English School"; by moving Tokyo_English_School to Draft namespace, I wish to be granted time doing so. My first time to discuss deletion of a page, so any advice is welcome.
- Is that kind of request technically correct? Do I go ahead and move it to Draft namespace, or is it up to Admins? (I will remove the template when I save this comment.)
- Tokyo English School is a keyword you will bump into when you try to study pioneering years of English education as second language in Japan, but since three schools with the same name had existed, jawp has a disambiguation page. The name "Tokyo English School" merely tells you "our school is offering English education in Tokyo". We could say when they were renamed from TES to three unique names, I imagine it was time the educators and politicians involved saw the bigger picture why it was English but not French nor German they needed to master (and it surely had been to myself (; ). Or realized as their mission was expanding/specified, renaming was inevitable or called a language education facility is not inline with their mission (esp with the case of University of Tokyo as you see).
- Well... I see three enwp articles for three schools need to be updated. It is beyond translation I had wished to complete when I had started; I am in history, not particular in history of education, and can pick up info from jawp and add to enwp on this subject. Wishing you could join in to update those three and links to other pages, and bring the disambiguation page back on page namespace in due. Are you not interested in history of education in Japan? --Omotecho (talk) 15:16, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
- Hi. Yes, that's a perfectly valid request, and I've moved it for you, although you could have done it yourself. The term might be a valid dab term, and therefore could be turned into a dab page, but a dab page is nowhere near as detailed as what you created. Each entry on a dab page should be very limited to a single line, so that someone searching can go to the right location. And actually while my main interests lie in other areas, I actually am an educator, and my daughter is currently teaching over in Tokyo, so yes I'll assist in any way I can. I am afraid however, that most sources will be in Japanese, which, unlike my daughter, I am not conversant in. I think the first step is to create articles about the TES which fed into Nihon School. As a secondary school, it is most likely notable. Then I am unclear about the other two schools. Are you saying that Aoyama Gakuin University was originally called the Tokyo School of English and Japanese? And that it was originally named Anglo Japanese University of Tokio and Awoyama, when it was founded by Robert Samuel Maclay? None of that is mentioned in the Aoyama article. If you have a source for that, we can simply insert that into the lead of the article. If we do that, we should also create a history section in that article, and flesh it out a bit. Similarly, the third step would be to create an article for Tokyo Gakko. Let me know what you would like to do.Onel5969 TT me 17:50, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
- Hello, appreciate you have moved the page to draft space. So I need not to cut up the page short enough as a dap, wonderful! I agree with your layout of the course we foresee editing, and yes, I will plan and research for sources in English to support the workflow you have suggested. Could I start the outline in the talk page in draft space, and what a project... Names like Hozumi Nobushige and Tsuda Sen are in the circle of educators connected to Nihon School and Aoyama Gakuin University. Well, that is another story. Your example showed me how I can move pages myself next time. Thank you so much, arigato gozaimasu. Regards, --Omotecho (talk) 19:14, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
- Hi. Yes, that's a perfectly valid request, and I've moved it for you, although you could have done it yourself. The term might be a valid dab term, and therefore could be turned into a dab page, but a dab page is nowhere near as detailed as what you created. Each entry on a dab page should be very limited to a single line, so that someone searching can go to the right location. And actually while my main interests lie in other areas, I actually am an educator, and my daughter is currently teaching over in Tokyo, so yes I'll assist in any way I can. I am afraid however, that most sources will be in Japanese, which, unlike my daughter, I am not conversant in. I think the first step is to create articles about the TES which fed into Nihon School. As a secondary school, it is most likely notable. Then I am unclear about the other two schools. Are you saying that Aoyama Gakuin University was originally called the Tokyo School of English and Japanese? And that it was originally named Anglo Japanese University of Tokio and Awoyama, when it was founded by Robert Samuel Maclay? None of that is mentioned in the Aoyama article. If you have a source for that, we can simply insert that into the lead of the article. If we do that, we should also create a history section in that article, and flesh it out a bit. Similarly, the third step would be to create an article for Tokyo Gakko. Let me know what you would like to do.Onel5969 TT me 17:50, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
Naomi Koshi
Hi there! You did a lot of work on a previous WIR article I translated, Harue Kitamura. I just translated another article about a Japanese mayor, Naomi Koshi, so if you want to jump in and work on that please feel free to! :) Mcampany (talk) 09:05, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
- Congratulation for your hard work! I came back from a long walk, the best Saturday walk in weeks. Can't wait to open Naomi Koshi. Working on Mrs.Kitamura was quite a fun for me :) Cheers, --Omotecho (talk) 13:09, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
Tokyo English School moved to draftspace
Moved as per your request. Onel5969 TT me 17:38, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
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Thank you for coming by, and please advise me: In expanding this article, I referred to GoogleBooks for citation, and C&P the ISBN no.s provided into citation templates. Then the VisualEditor warns me "Parameter error in {{ISBN}}: Invalid ISBN.". How do I correct ? Any bot request available? Cheers, Omotecho (talk) 19:23, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
- Hi Omotecho, thank you for your contributions. I hope Special:Diff/905230305 solves the problem.
~ ToBeFree (talk) 19:58, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
- @ToBeFree:, wow you are so fast! Now I learnt a solution and it feels so great :) Enjoy your weekend, Cheers, error: {{nihongo}}: Japanese or romaji text required (help) --Omotecho (talk) 21:01, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
Happy to help, have a nice day!- When I wrote this, I suddenly had to think of World Order's impressive music video performances. :) ~ ToBeFree (talk) 00:54, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
- @ToBeFree:, wow you are so fast! Now I learnt a solution and it feels so great :) Enjoy your weekend, Cheers, error: {{nihongo}}: Japanese or romaji text required (help) --Omotecho (talk) 21:01, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
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--Rosiestep (talk) 22:59, 29 October 2019 (UTC) via MassMessaging
Hello
I noticed your edit to this page; I reverted it, as it is a non-standard presentation, and offends MOS:LEAD.
However you raise an interesting point; your edit summary suggests a problem that could affect the majority of long articles here.
If the way we currently arrange articles is making things difficult for people to read using mobile phones then we need to address it; can I suggest it be raised at some forum or other; Village pump, maybe, or the MOS talk page. Regards, Xyl 54 (talk) 21:05, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
- @Xyl 54:, hi, thank you to point out MOS:LEAD, and suggesting the issue to discuss with the community. I share your view that we'd better turn up a discussion somewhere. I mainly translate from enwp to my homewiki jawp, and try out how articles are readable on mobile Wikipedia app/mobile website on iPhone 6sPlus in Japanese fonts. Do you care to adapt the issue so that it will get more attention on suitable page? Cheers, --Omotecho (talk) 21:23, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
- OK, I'll give it a go. I'll have a look to see if this has been discussed already somewhere; I'm sure this isn't the first time this problem has arisen. Is that OK? I'll keep you posted... Xyl 54 (talk)
- Sounds great to me. Guess some discussion before maybe on mediawiki: not necessarily of your interest, but as they are talking about to give more attention towards newly participating readers, it would affect writing style someday. I remember reading that largest segment of new readers are on mobile phones (no wonder). --Omotecho (talk) 22:36, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
- OK, I'll give it a go. I'll have a look to see if this has been discussed already somewhere; I'm sure this isn't the first time this problem has arisen. Is that OK? I'll keep you posted... Xyl 54 (talk)
Hello again
I thought there might be a working party on WP looking at problems with mobile phone access, but I haven't found one. On the other hand there is a group on mediawiki at mw:Reading/Web/Mobile; I don't think it's the same as the one you found. They seem to take a broad view. Also, the Village Pump (technical) team (here) deal with specific tech problems, such as the one you described (I'm not technically-minded enough understand it, sorry): Give them a try... Xyl 54 (talk) 23:32, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
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Yoyoka Soma
Hi, it looks like when you made this edit, it broke something in the infobox. I'm not quite sure why it didn't work. For now, I've undone your edit as it wasn't appearing in the infobox, anyway. If you know how to fix it and keep your edit, feel free. Jauerbackdude?/dude. 20:55, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you forthe reminder, and yes, I found the template error and fixed it. Appreciating your thoughtful message. Cheers, --Omotecho (talk) 11:55, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
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I noticed on the Women in Red page that you indicated proficiency with Japanese. I have just finished an article on the Russian/Japanese ballerina Olga Sapphire. I had GRuban review the Russian documents to make sure I had made no errors in translating / interpreting the Russian. I am hopeful that you might be willing to do the same with the Japanese sources. If you are unable to help, I understand. Thanks for your consideration. SusunW (talk) 19:57, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
- @SusunW:, hi, what an interesting article you have created (y) Before I read the details, a jump start reply. Very interesting Olga taught Matsuyama, and I guess that suggests Olga had set stones to bring up those big names today. I noticed you might have a challenge writing this piece, as Matsuyama Ballet Troupe does not have an article on enwp, or its jawp article is scarcely cited, without “See also”. Matsuyama-Yoko Morishita heritage shines the brightest to me who went to see ballet four times only...
- Maybe we replace section title “external links” to “further readings”, as those two items Don’t show websites but isbn. You have url to Matsuyama Ballet Troupe on its jawp page, titled “The Japan Ballet/Matsuyama Ballet Troupe/Matsuyama Ballet Schools”.
- Do you want me to put author names in Romaji as I hope such names will serve as key words to encourage citation to other articles on stage artists in Japan? I will MatchWorldCat with CiNii.
For biblio research, I am happy to look through CiNii and WorldCat. Would you mind pointing me to other ballet sources in Japanese languages you have in mind?
- Off topic here, and I just a chat subject: Matsuyama herself does not have an article on jawp (unbelievable!), but if you can apply any navbox type “genealogy table” for Olga’s footnote, including principals and other star Japanese ballet performers like Morishita and Mimoza Kokike (Monte Carlo Ballet principal), that will give us a landscape of how ballet has become popular in Japan: Am I going to far? FYI, Both Matsuyama and Koike are requested on jawp Art+Feminism asarticle to create. --Omotecho (talk) 12:53, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
- Omotecho, you make me smile and I thank you for your willingness to help. I am thinking many of these things are way above my skill level. I am simply a writer and researcher. The technical part of WP far exceeds anything I know how to do. I typically write about dead women, who were immigrants or operated internationally (The field of work, always varies, so like on this one, I know little about dance, but learned a lot writing the article). I find it fascinating at how global our world has always been. But, because this is who I write about, I must find people who speak the languages of my subjects to make sure I have not misinterpreted anything. It's also helpful because unless it is a country I write about often, I rarely know what articles link in from either the various language WPs or en.WP (I had a really hard time finding a link to the Purge of Japanese businessmen/politicians.)
- I agree further reading is better. I rarely transliterate names, but am often asked to do it, so if your experience tells you that is helpful, please do. What I really need is for you to look at the sources I have cited and confirm that the information in the article accurately represents the source (I typically use 3 translation machines and then synthesize their translations before writing it in my own words. Kind of a tedious process, but I love learning things and don't think that the fact that I don't speak a language should be a barrier.) Then of course, if I have missed, or used the wrong links to other articles, either on ja.wp or en.wp, please either fix them or advise.
- A navbox (I have no earthly idea how to create one) would certainly help, as I had difficulty in finding the prominent figures mentioned in the sources for Sapphire. Perhaps a "history" section could be written on Contemporary dance in Japan and then a box created allowing links to prominent figures. I think that would be really helpful. But, selfishly, after we work on Sapphire . SusunW (talk) 13:21, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
- It occurs to me that it might be helpful for you to see the conversation about the Russian sources with [GRuban]. SusunW (talk) 13:41, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
- @SusunW: I have a huge grin on my face ear to ear, reading through your article. Still need to go through archives and bibliography, and meanwhile, I will suggest an external link on article talkpage but in Japanese language only. You gave me a hint to search for non-Japanese people who helped ballet flourish in Japan.
- It occurs to me that it might be helpful for you to see the conversation about the Russian sources with [GRuban]. SusunW (talk) 13:41, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
- Right, successor template or those you apply for presidents and union leaders, could wait. I guess we will see a handful of such “schools of ballet” or sectors, then quite easily gain red links to those pupils or pioneer Japanese ballet dancers and any profession theatrical. GRuban’s talk page led me to go to read novel page Kawabata’s novel with a ballerina heroin.
- Talking about having hard time to find jawp:Purge: if you meant you did not find jawp page for Purge with ease, it links to d:Q7261217 > w:en:Purge (occupied Japan). Do you see wikidata link in parentheses just under the big page title? Sorry, don’t recall how I added that trick, maybe some :Jss? Or Preference that you add and show wikidata link? Crossing fingers you’ve been using that,
- --Omotecho (talk) 02:03, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
- It's actually quite nice that we are operating on opposite sides of the globe, as we do not trip over each other in editing. I meant that in general wp search engines are not intuitive to me. I look for what I think something should be called and then literally get out of wp and search Google. Usually, then and only then do I find the wp link I want. (I said I am not technical and it is true ). It's frustrating. SusunW (talk) 15:21, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
- @SusunW: Display the code of Wikidata in the title, a kind of tool you find on wikidata, Enhance user interface does the trick, and it shows wikidataID link on Wikipedia page just below the page title. Chances are much higher now that wikidata stores what you wish to hit, e.g. in case of :w:en:Purge, shows (Q7261217), click, jumps to wikidata:Purge; you scroll down to _Wikipedia_ field/box, then it shows :w:ja:*Purge_(occupied_Japan)* depending on display language you select at page top. Guess guys on WiR has magic to show you how. Of course, web surfing with any term(s) will be much more creative, as you will find other idea sources that way: I do it often as a translator, as my word_bank often shuts its lids and I mourn over basic vocabulary ackquired at 8th grade... (; My Wifi has been very slow since last night, so I shifted wiki-hours when people are still sleeping ! We enter a holiday 29 April - 6 May, anyhow everybody is advised to tuck in and stay apart: no compact, no company, no congestion. Wish you good luck web surfing ! --Omotecho (talk) 20:12, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
- It's actually quite nice that we are operating on opposite sides of the globe, as we do not trip over each other in editing. I meant that in general wp search engines are not intuitive to me. I look for what I think something should be called and then literally get out of wp and search Google. Usually, then and only then do I find the wp link I want. (I said I am not technical and it is true
- Right, successor template or those you apply for presidents and union leaders, could wait. I guess we will see a handful of such “schools of ballet” or sectors, then quite easily gain red links to those pupils or pioneer Japanese ballet dancers and any profession theatrical. GRuban’s talk page led me to go to read novel page Kawabata’s novel with a ballerina heroin.