User talk:Dentren/Archive 8

Getting involved with WikiProject: Food and Drink

Hi! My name is Emma and I am a new Wikipedia user, taking at class at my university about Wikipedia. I'd like to get involved with the WikiProject: Food and Drink and saw that you were an active member. I would love to get some advice from you about editing food/drink articles or suggestions for editing articles in general. Thanks! Emmakknight (talk) 20:11, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

Academic journal articles

Hi, thanks for creating articles on academic journals, such as Geomorphology (journal). Some helpful tips on how to make these stubs a bit more "meaty" can be found at WP:JWG. Happy editing! --Randykitty (talk) 15:46, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

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Infobox

Hello Dentren,

I would like to know your opinion about this proposal. --Keysanger (talk) 22:47, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Galápagos Microplate

Hi Dentren. I reverted something you did. ;) Last September, you moved that article to North Galápagos Microplate, but that's a different plate that had it's own article, too (see North Galapagos Microplate). Yes, the two articles look very similar... I moved it back to its own place, but now I can't move the North Galapagos Microplate to North Galápagos Microplate (the redirect is already fixed), because I'd need admin rights to move it over that redirect, as it has more than one revision. ;) If you happen to be an admin or know one, could you please have them move it? Otherwise it just stays without the proper á. Best regards, --Thogo 00:16, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for reverting my presumed error. I will check the procedure to move. Dentren | ^Talk 18:12, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

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Notice of Edit warring noticeboard discussion

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Nope its not edit warrying, its holding your intransigent non-consensual changes back until a consensus is reached. Want to do changes? Then discuss in the talk page of Economic history of Chile. Dentren | ^Talk 21:13, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

Edit warring at Economic history of Chile

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War of the Triple Alliance / Paraguayan War

I have proposed an alternative formulation, you may wish to comment. WCM_email 20:26, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Peneplain

I've modified your recent edit to peneplain. The article is about the subject and not just the term. I've moved the quote to the bottom under the new section: History of the term. The reference you had provided was incomplete (Chorley, 1973) so I changed to: Chorley, 1973, The History and Study of Landforms or The Development of Geomorphology, Volume Two: The Life and Work of William Moris Davis, Methuen, 1973. If that is incorrect, let me know or fix it. Thanks, Vsmith (talk) 14:29, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion of Estudios Sociológicos

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Notice of Edit warring noticeboard discussion 2

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Hello Dentren. Please see my plan for closing this which I expressed at the AN3 report. You may respond there if you wish. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 21:51, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

It is still hard to understand what this disagreement is about. Maybe you could find a good way to explain it to outsiders who know little about South America. If it were only about credibility of authors, WP:RSN might handle it, but it seems to be something more. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 22:07, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

The report about Economic history of Chile is now closed per the terms I originally described. Be aware that either of you can be blocked if you do *any* reverts of the article, prior to a talk page agreement. See my suggestions in the report for how to make progress. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 17:15, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

The original dispute is about how to portray the origin of the War of the Pacific in the Economic history of Chile article. A spin-off dispute started by Keysanger is that he questions the use of Gabriel Salazars works for the origin of the war, calling his explanations "fringe". Apparently Keysanger thinks or suspects that Salazar is a "Marxist" and would therefore not be a good source. Dentren | ^Talk 23:05, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

Consider making a section at Talk:Economic history of Chile that lists what several historians think is the origin of the war, and how the war was related to the economies of the various countries. You could also indicate what the major questions are on which you and Keysanger disagree. If there is great diversity of opinion among historians, Wikipedia can sometimes give a brief account that doesn't try to explain the causes. We can then link the reader to the references and ask them to make up their own minds. EdJohnston (talk) 23:47, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

The problem is that there is only two people in this dispute. Two persons with different approaches and views are unlikely to reach any consensus. I have seen how intransigent Keysanger can be in pushing his views by exploring the archive of talk:War of the Pacific, so I don't have high expectations. Dentren | ^Talk 09:11, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for mediation/Description of the causes of a war

Hallo Dentren,

I posted a request for mediation. I hope you participate: Wikipedia:Requests for mediation/Description of the causes of a war.

--Keysanger (talk) 14:24, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

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Message for you

Hi, I wrote in Wikipedia talk:Requests for mediation/Description of the causes of a war a message for TM and you. Let's me know your answer, if any, there. --Keysanger (talk) 12:09, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

Mediation rejected

Hi Dentren,

I refused the mediation of Steven after he deleted my contribution. --Keysanger (talk) 12:42, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Certainly your contribution was lest to say a step backward in the content dispute. The thing for you is that you will have it hard to find a mediator that avails snowballing of disputes. Dentren | ^Talk 12:53, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

With step backward you mean surely that: A quick look into the archives of talk:War of the Pacific reveal the real inferno that nationalistic issues can bring on. But it was written by you, not me. Regards, --Keysanger (talk) 08:56, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Vindicative attitudes leads nowere. I suggest you think about it. Dentren | ^Talk 11:24, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

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Translation

Hello, A user named MarshalN20 directed me to you when I asked about translating an article from the Spanish wikipedia, in this case the Guerra del Pacifico article, which I saw on a Latin America-related portal needed translation. I'm wondering what sort of protocol I should follow for translating articles as well as whether or not it would still be helpful to put time aside to do it. Thanks. 70.173.216.115 (talk) 20:39, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

The current article on the War of the Pacific is quite complete and referenced. So a complete translation from the es:Guerra del Pacifico would not be good idea. The War of the Pacific article do have problems. I suggest you compare similar sections in the Spanish and English articles and complement War of the Pacific with material from Guerra del Pacifico whenever you feel its an improvement and additions are properly sourced. Dentren | ^Talk 12:31, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

3O

Hallo Dentren,

I requested a 3rd Opinion in the case Causes of the War: Wikipedia:Third_opinion#Active_disagreements. --Keysanger (talk) 12:58, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

3O (2.attempt)

Hallo Dentren,

I requested, again, a 3rd Opinion in the case Causes of the War: Wikipedia:Third_opinion#Active_disagreements. --Keysanger (talk) 08:57, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

WotP

I would like to know your opinion in this case. --Keysanger (talk) 11:59, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

Tags on War of the Pacific

Please stop applying tags to sections of War of the Pacific unless you are willing to state exactly what parts of the article you think contain synthesis amounting to original research and otherwise what the issues are. Robert McClenon (talk) 00:29, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

I have stated it, before and have stated once again today, this time more concisely at your request. Dentren | ^Talk 07:29, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

Dentren, you are right and I understand what you indicate. Articles should not be written with the opinion of single author taking precedence over everything.--MarshalN20 ^Talk 13:37, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

MarshalN20, yes, and there are more concerns on the War of the Pacific to rise albeit it would be disruptive to raise them now. Dentren | ^Talk 09:52, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

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Arid diagonal

Last spring you added the Arid Diagonal article. The first sentence under the Cause and origin section begins: "The Arid Diagonal is a result of the locking of the South Pacific High..." I don't have access to the reference used, but the wording is confusing, specifically what does locking mean there. Another user has asked on my talk and we would appreciate a bit of clarification. Thanks, Vsmith (talk) 20:36, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

OK, I've found a pdf of the ref and modified the wording of the article a bit. Vsmith (talk) 21:33, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

Vsmith, yes my writing might be a bit confusing, but that is because I do not want to distort the sources. I appreciate your involvement in the article. Dentren | ^Talk 07:58, 16 November 2015 (UTC)