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XFD backlog
V	Apr	May	Total
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TfD	0	4	4
MfD	0	2	2
FfD	0	8	8
RfD	4	25	29
AfD	0	21	21

Redirects for discussion (RfD) is the place where potentially problematic redirects are discussed. Items usually stay listed for a week or so, after which they are deleted, kept, or retargeted.

If you want to replace an unprotected redirect with an article, do not list it here. Turning redirects into articles is wholly encouraged. Be bold!
If you want to move a page but a redirect is in the way, do not list it here. For non-controversial cases, place a technical request; if a discussion is required, then start a requested move.
If you think a redirect points to the wrong target article, this is a good place to discuss what should be the proper target.
Redirects should not be deleted just because they have no incoming links. Please do not use this as the only reason to delete a redirect. However, redirects that do have incoming links are sometimes deleted, so that is not a sufficient condition for keeping. (See § When should we delete a redirect? for more information.)

Please do not unilaterally rename or change the target of a redirect while it is under discussion. This adds unnecessary complication to the discussion for participants and closers.

Before listing a redirect for discussion[edit]

Please be aware of these general policies, which apply here as elsewhere:

Wikipedia:Redirect – what redirects are, why they exist, and how they are used.
Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion – which pages can be deleted without discussion; in particular the "General" and "Redirects" sections.
Wikipedia:Deletion policy – how we delete things by consensus.
Wikipedia:Guide to deletion – guidelines on discussion format and shorthand.

The guiding principles of RfD[edit]

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WP:RGUIDE

The purpose of a good redirect is to eliminate the possibility that readers will find themselves staring blankly at "Search results 1–10 out of 378" instead of the article they were looking for. If someone could plausibly enter the redirect's name when searching for the target article, it's a good redirect.
Redirects are cheap. They take up little storage space and use very little bandwidth. It doesn't really hurt things if there are a few of them scattered around. On the flip side, deleting redirects is also cheap because recording the deletion takes up little storage space and uses very little bandwidth. There is no harm in deleting problematic redirects.
If a good-faith RfD nomination proposes to delete a redirect and has no discussion after at least 7 days, the default result is delete.
Redirects nominated in contravention of Wikipedia:Redirect will be speedily kept.
RfD can also serve as a central discussion forum for debates about which page a redirect should target. In cases where retargeting the redirect could be considered controversial, it is advisable to leave a notice on the talk page of the redirect's current target page or the proposed target page to refer readers to the redirect's nomination to allow input and help form consensus for the redirect's target.
Requests for deletion of redirects from one page's talk page to another's do not need to be listed here. Anyone can remove the redirect by blanking the page. The G6 criterion for speedy deletion may be appropriate.
In discussions, always ask yourself whether or not a redirect would be helpful to the reader.

When should we delete a redirect?[edit]

This page is transcluded from Wikipedia:Redirect/Deletion reasons. (edit | history)

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WP:RHARMFUL

The major reasons why deletion of redirects is harmful are:

a redirect may contain non-trivial edit history;
if a redirect is reasonably old (or is the result of moving a page that has been there for quite some time), then it is possible that its deletion will break incoming links (such links coming from older revisions of Wikipedia pages, from edit summaries, from other Wikimedia projects or from elsewhere on the internet, do not show up in "What links here").

Therefore consider the deletion only of either harmful redirects or of recent ones.

Reasons for deleting[edit]

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You might want to delete a redirect if one or more of the following conditions is met (but note also the exceptions listed below this list):

The redirect page makes it unreasonably difficult for users to locate similarly named articles via the search engine. For example, if the user searches for "New Articles", and is redirected to a disambiguation page for "Articles", it would take much longer to get to the newly added articles on Wikipedia.
The redirect might cause confusion. For example, if "Adam B. Smith" was redirected to "Andrew B. Smith", because Andrew was accidentally called Adam in one source, this could cause confusion with the article on Adam Smith, so the redirect should be deleted.
The redirect is offensive or abusive, such as redirecting "Joe Bloggs is a Loser" to "Joe Bloggs" (unless "Joe Bloggs is a Loser" is legitimately discussed in the article), or "Joe Bloggs" to "Loser". (Speedy deletion criterion G10 and G3 may apply.) See also § Neutrality of redirects.
The redirect constitutes self-promotion or spam. (Speedy deletion criterion G11 may apply.)
The redirect makes no sense, such as redirecting "Apple" to "Orange". (Speedy deletion criterion G1 may apply.)
It is a cross-namespace redirect out of article space, such as one pointing into the User or Wikipedia namespace. The major exception to this rule are the pseudo-namespace shortcut redirects, which technically are in the main article space. Some long-standing cross-namespace redirects are also kept because of their long-standing history and potential usefulness. "MOS:" redirects, for example, are an exception to this rule. (Note also the existence of namespace aliases such as WP:. Speedy deletion criterion R2 may apply if the target namespace is something other than Category:, Template:, Wikipedia:, Help:, or Portal:.)
If the redirect is broken, meaning it redirects to an article that does not exist, it can be immediately deleted under speedy deletion criterion G8. You should check that there is not an alternative place it could be appropriately redirected to first and that it has not become broken through vandalism.
If the redirect is a novel or very obscure synonym for an article name that is not mentioned in the target, it is unlikely to be useful. In particular, redirects in a language other than English to a page whose subject is unrelated to that language (or a culture that speaks that language) should generally not be created. (Implausible typos or misnomers are candidates for speedy deletion criterion R3, if recently created.)
If the target article needs to be moved to the redirect title, but the redirect has been edited before and has a history of its own, then the title needs to be freed up to make way for the move. If the move is uncontroversial, tag the redirect for G6 speedy deletion, or alternatively (with the suppressredirect user right; available to page movers and admins), perform a round-robin move. If not, take the article to Requested moves.
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- WP:RETURNTORED
If the redirect could plausibly be expanded into an article, and the target article contains virtually no information on the subject.

Reasons for not deleting[edit]

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However, avoid deleting such redirects if:

They have a potentially useful page history, or an edit history that should be kept to comply with the licensing requirements for a merge (see Wikipedia:Merge and delete). On the other hand, if the redirect was created by renaming a page with that name, and the page history just mentions the renaming, and for one of the reasons above you want to delete the page, copy the page history to the Talk page of the article it redirects to. The act of renaming is useful page history, and even more so if there has been discussion on the page name.
They would aid accidental linking and make the creation of duplicate articles less likely, whether by redirecting a plural to a singular, by redirecting a frequent misspelling to a correct spelling, by redirecting a misnomer to a correct term, by redirecting to a synonym, etc. In other words, redirects with no incoming links are not candidates for deletion on those grounds because they are of benefit to the browsing user. Some extra vigilance by editors will be required to minimize the occurrence of those frequent misspellings in the article texts because the linkified misspellings will not appear as broken links; consider tagging the redirect with the {{R from misspelling}} template to assist editors in monitoring these misspellings.
They aid searches on certain terms. For example, users who might see the "Keystone State" mentioned somewhere but do not know what that refers to will be able to find out at the Pennsylvania (target) article.
Deleting redirects runs the risk of breaking incoming or internal links. For example, redirects resulting from page moves should not normally be deleted without good reason. Links that have existed for a significant length of time, including CamelCase links (e.g. WolVes) and old subpage links, should be left alone in case there are any existing links on external pages pointing to them. See also Wikipedia:Link rot § Link rot on non-Wikimedia sites.
Someone finds them useful. Hint: If someone says they find a redirect useful, they probably do. You might not find it useful—this is not because the other person is being untruthful, but because you browse Wikipedia in different ways. Evidence of usage can be gauged by using the wikishark or pageviews tool on the redirect to see the number of views it gets.
The redirect is to a closely related word form, such as a plural form to a singular form.

Neutrality of redirects[edit]

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WP:RNEUTRAL

Just as article titles using non-neutral language are permitted in some circumstances, so are such redirects. Because redirects are less visible to readers, more latitude is allowed in their names, therefore perceived lack of neutrality in redirect names is not a sufficient reason for their deletion. In most cases, non-neutral but verifiable redirects should point to neutrally titled articles about the subject of the term. Non-neutral redirects may be tagged with {{R from non-neutral name}}.

Non-neutral redirects are commonly created for three reasons:

Articles that are created using non-neutral titles are routinely moved to a new neutral title, which leaves behind the old non-neutral title as a working redirect (e.g. Climategate → Climatic Research Unit email controversy).
Articles created as POV forks may be deleted and replaced by a redirect pointing towards the article from which the fork originated (e.g. Barack Obama Muslim rumor → deleted and now redirected to Barack Obama religion conspiracy theories).
The subject matter of articles may be represented by some sources outside Wikipedia in non-neutral terms. Such terms are generally avoided in Wikipedia article titles, per the words to avoid guidelines and the general neutral point of view policy. For instance the non-neutral expression "Attorneygate" is used to redirect to the neutrally titled Dismissal of U.S. attorneys controversy. The article in question has never used that title, but the redirect was created to provide an alternative means of reaching it because a number of press reports use the term.

The exceptions to this rule would be redirects that are not established terms and are unlikely to be useful, and therefore may be nominated for deletion, perhaps under deletion reason #3. However, if a redirect represents an established term that is used in multiple mainstream reliable sources, it should be kept even if non-neutral, as it will facilitate searches on such terms. Please keep in mind that RfD is not the place to resolve most editorial disputes.

Closing notes[edit]

Details at Administrator instructions for RfD

Nominations should remain open, per policy, about a week before they are closed, unless they meet the general criteria for speedy deletion, the criteria for speedy deletion of a redirect, or are not valid redirect discussion requests (e.g. are actually move requests).

How to list a redirect for discussion[edit]

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WP:RFDHOWTO

STEP I.

Tag the redirect(s).

Enter {{subst:rfd|content= at the very beginning of the redirect page you are listing for discussion and enter }} at the very end of the page.

Does this look too complicated?
Try this semi-automated process instead: (note only confirmed users can use this)

Enable Twinkle in the Gadgets tab of your preferences.
Go back to the redirect page, and choose "XFD" from the new Twinkle menu.
Fill in the form and submit it.

Please do not mark the edit as minor (m).
Please include in the edit summary the phrase:
Nominated for RfD: see [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion]].
Save the page ("Publish changes").
If you are unable to edit the redirect page because of protection, this step can be omitted, and after step 2 is completed, a request to add the RFD template can be put on the redirect's talk page.
If the redirect you are nominating is in template namespace, consider adding |showontransclusion=1 to the RfD tag so that people using the template redirect are aware of the nomination.
If you are nominating multiple redirects as a group, repeat all the above steps for each redirect being nominated.

STEP II.

List the entry on RfD.

Click here to edit the section of RfD for today's entries.

Enter this text below the date heading:

{{subst:Rfd2|redirect=RedirectName|target=TargetArticle|text=The action you would like to occur (deletion, re-targeting, etc.) and the rationale for that action.}}

~~~~

For this template:
- Put the redirect's name in place of RedirectName, put the target article's name in place of TargetArticle, and include a reason after text=.
- Note that, for this step, the "target article" is the current target of the redirect (if you have a suggestion for a better target, include this in the text that you insert after text=).
Please use an edit summary such as:
Nominating [[RedirectName]]
(replacing RedirectName with the name of the redirect you are nominating).
To list multiple related redirects for discussion, use the following syntax. Repeat line 2 for N number of redirects:

{{subst:Rfd2|redirect=RedirectName1|target=TargetArticle1}}

{{subst:Rfd2|multi=yes|redirect=RedirectName2|target=TargetArticle2}}

{{subst:Rfd2|multi=yes|redirect=RedirectNameN|target=TargetArticleN|text=The actions you would like to occur (deletion, re-targeting, etc.) and the rationale for those actions.}}

~~~~

If the redirect has had previous RfDs, you can add {{Oldrfdlist|previous RfD without brackets|result of previous RfD}} directly after the rfd2 template.

STEP III.

Notify users.

It is generally considered good practice to notify the creator and main contributors of the redirect(s) that you nominate.

To find the main contributors, look in the page history of the respective redirect(s). For convenience, the template

{{subst:Rfd notice|RedirectName}} ~~~~

may be placed on the creator/main contributors' user talk page to provide notice of the discussion. Please replace RedirectName with the name of the respective creator/main contributors' redirect and use an edit summary such as:
Notice of redirect discussion at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion]]

Notices about the RfD discussion may also be left on relevant talk pages.

Please consider using What links here to locate other redirects that may be related to the one you are nominating. After going to the redirect target page and selecting "What links here" in the toolbox on the left side of your computer screen, select both "Hide transclusions" and "Hide links" filters to display the redirects to the redirect target page.

If this page has been recently modified, it may not reflect the most recent changes.
Please purge this page to view the most recent changes.

Current list[edit]

May 27[edit]

Baak (Telugu Film)[edit]

Baak (Telugu Film) → Aranmanai 4 (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Indian films sometimes do this thing were they reshoot 10% or less of the film in another language. Either way, there is absolutely no need for this redirect when Baak (film) exists. only 10% or less of people interest seeing Aranmanai 4 will likely opt to see this version due to low key release. DareshMohan (talk) 05:39, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Delete: No point of existence. Kailash29792 (talk) 05:59, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Delete: I think this is the same film as Baakghost. It looks like there is no point for this. Cleo Cooper (talk) 06:30, 25 April 2024 (UTC) (Striking account globally locked as an LTA ‍—‍a smart kitten_[meow] 16:04, 11 May 2024 (UTC))

Keep: This is obviously linked with the Afd of Baakghost. Here too, I suggest to Keep the redirect (and then rename. Baak (Telugu film) if needed, and maybe ask for page protection. Like that, history can be kept and further work on the article is easier. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 13:33, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
Move to Baak (film) without redirect as the title has incorrect capitalization which is arguably an RDAB error. Crouch, Swale (talk) 19:27, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Delete per nom. Okmrman (talk) 04:23, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Delete Baak (film) already exists, no point in moving stuff around. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 18:32, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

Move without redirect to Baak (film) to keep the page history. Baak (film) was created by nom 5 minutes before the nomination. With regards to the target, follow the outcome of the lowercase f RfD WP:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 May 1#Baak (Telugu film). Jay 💬 12:58, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris ^talk! 07:15, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Move to Baak (film) without redirect to keep editing history. Hzh (talk) 14:49, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting together with the other similar RfD below.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris ^talk! 00:46, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

Baak film redirects[edit]

Baak (Telugu film) → Aranmanai 4 (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Baakghost → Aranmanai 4 (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Both of these redirects have no point. Both these redirects (Baakghost and Baak (Telugu film)) along with Baak (Telugu Film) were initially created by SenthilGugan as Articles for the Telugu dubbed version of Aranmanai 4. After seeing no need for another article, when there's already a primary article and an Afd the pages were turned to redirects. But, there is no need these many redirects, as not even the Google recognizes these names. I only included two redirects because, the other one has already been Rfded. 𝓥𝓮𝓼𝓽𝓻𝓲𝓪𝓷24𝓑𝓲𝓸 (ᴛᴀʟᴋ) 11:16, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

Vestrian24Bio, what's the reason for nominating this redirect for deletion? I could be missing a potential problem with it; but, from what I can see, this title is mentioned at the target under Aranmanai 4#Release. All the best, ‍—‍a smart kitten_[meow] 11:21, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
I am typing it; please wait for me to post it. 𝓥𝓮𝓼𝓽𝓻𝓲𝓪𝓷24𝓑𝓲𝓸 (ᴛᴀʟᴋ) 11:22, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
Ah, sorry - I was confused as to why the redirect was nominated without a rationale, but that makes sense. All the best, ‍—‍a smart kitten_[meow] 11:24, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
That's fine 𝓥𝓮𝓼𝓽𝓻𝓲𝓪𝓷24𝓑𝓲𝓸 (ᴛᴀʟᴋ) 11:33, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

Delete: It's Baak. See this. Kailash29792 (talk) 11:24, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
Noting that the above !vote was made underneath the entry for Baakghost, before the two nominations had been combined - see [1]. Best, ‍—‍a smart kitten_[meow] 12:38, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
Keep but make the target more precise to a section in the article: Aranmanai_4#Theatrical The title in the target section of this Telugu version of the film IS Baak. The second R was Redirected after an Afd and the first BLARed as ATD, so that the pages history and credits could be kept, which is always good. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 09:09, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
Agree with the first one, but the second R: A Google search of that name would give the results for Baak (Assamese folklore), so how much of an accurate redirect that would be? 𝓥𝓮𝓼𝓽𝓻𝓲𝓪𝓷24𝓑𝓲𝓸 (ᴛᴀʟᴋ) 14:48, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
Fair enough. Then, in order to preserve history and credits for both, rename the second (but then the double redirect needs to be fixed) OR change target so that it redirects to the Assamese folklore page (which will preserve the history, only upon a different topic). A DISAMB page can also be considered. Thanks. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 17:57, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
I say we retarget to Baak (Assamese folklore) and move Baakghost to Baak ghost without leaving a redirect. You agree Mushy Yank? Kailash29792 (talk) 10:19, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
Sure! Thanks. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 10:55, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
Comment: Summarizing the above discussion, Keep and Re-target Baak (Telugu film) to Aranmanai 4#Theatrical while, Move Baakghost to Baak ghost without leaving a redirect and Re-target to Baak (Assamese folklore). Is that correct Kailash29792 and Mushy Yank? 𝓥𝓮𝓼𝓽𝓻𝓲𝓪𝓷24𝓑𝓲𝓸 (ᴛᴀʟᴋ) 04:07, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
Yes you are right. Kailash29792 (talk) 04:30, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

As far as I’m concerned, yes, I think that’s a good solution. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 21:16, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, _signed,Rosguill ^talk 16:53, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Any further thoughts?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris ^talk! 00:33, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

Cedar Ridge Middle School[edit]

Cedar Ridge Middle School → Decatur City Schools (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Delete for no mention at the target, and therefore confusing. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 18:04, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

This is a former article that was WP:BLARed in 2014 per WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES. The mention in the target article was removed in 2019 and it's no longer listed on the school district's website, because it was renamed. A mention could be added back to the target article, and the school is mentioned at Austin High School (Alabama). A different school of the same name is mentioned Oregon Trail School District, but I don't know if that's enough to justify disambiguation. - Eureka Lott 19:58, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
The school is listed at the target article in the listing of middle schools. That's enough for the redirect. 4.37.252.50 (talk) 01:45, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
Added the previous name mention at the target. Jay 💬 09:10, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, _signed,Rosguill ^talk 17:37, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

Disambiguate: to Decatur City Schools and Oregon Trail School District as neither appears to be the PTOPIC. voorts (talk/contributions) 00:50, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Further thoughts on dabifying?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris ^talk! 00:27, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

Hyperstar[edit]

Hyperstar → Metallicity#Stars (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Hyperstars → Stellar population#Population III stars (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Not mentioned at target. For the former, note that Iran Hyper Star also appears to be written without a space on the logo. 1234qwer 1234qwer 4 15:13, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Delete per nom for now. Seems to be a camera accessory and also a name for a series of hypermarkets according to GSearch. --Lenticel ^(talk) 01:59, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
Delete Only mention in published research as a type of star is this, which is not even about metallicity but about a pathway for black hole formation. And the article it cites doesn't actually use this term. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 19:56, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
Retarget Hyperstar to Carrefour, Delete the plural. Jay 💬 15:20, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, _signed,Rosguill ^talk 17:37, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

Weak retarget to hypergiant, as hypergiant stars are a thing. {{R from incorrect name}}.-- 65.92.244.237 (talk) 05:12, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris ^talk! 00:24, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

Unlabeled[edit]

Unlabeled → Draft:Unlabeled (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

per wp:SRD --MikutoH ^talk! 23:13, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Retarget to wikt:unlabeled again. --MikutoH ^talk! 23:13, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Comment: dabifying is also possible as Unlabeled coloring, Unlabeled sexuality, Unlabeled - The Demos also exist --MikutoH ^talk! 23:15, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

I don't object. It seems like I incorrectly assumed your article was spam. My apologies. EdmHopLover1995 (talk) 23:16, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Comment: I went ahead and restored the soft redirect, though I think this discussion should remain open since dabifying is also being considered as an option. CycloneYoris ^talk! 00:49, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
Delete per Template:Wiktionary redirect. Wikipedia is not a dictionary and we don't need Wiktionary redirects for common words. A disambiguation page wouldn't be appropriate, because all of the potential entries are WP:PTMs. - Eureka Lott 13:44, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
@Eureka Lott: As WP:PTM describes, some partial title matches do belong on disambiguation pages. I think title-subtitle is one of the more obvious cases for that. jlwoodwa (talk) 04:02, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
I suppose that could apply to Unlabeled - The Demos. Are there other good candidates for a potential disambiguation page? - Eureka Lott 18:37, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
Dabify per MikutoH's last comment, plausible search term with several relevant entries. A Wiktionary link could be present on the dab if necessary. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 18:26, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, _signed,Rosguill ^talk 16:51, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

Disambiguate: per the several pages listed by MikutoH with the term "unlabeled" in them. voorts (talk/contributions) 01:01, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
Retarget to Unlabeled - The Demos as the only page with this title (see All pages with titles containing unlabeled). Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 20:20, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
While it is the only full page with this title, it is not necessarily the primary topic, and redirects to sections like Sexual identity#Unlabeled sexuality might be as likely to be searched for, if not more likely. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 11:42, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Retarget or disambiguate?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris ^talk! 00:23, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

Box 850[edit]

Box 850 → MI6 (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Not mentioned in target, nor anywhere else on Wikipedia for that matter. 2001:999:68C:AC40:8038:7BCB:6859:B02D (talk) 15:49, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

Keep: Valid {{R from alternate name}}. "Box 850" is a nickname for MI6. See, e.g., [2]: "The United Kingdom's Security Service, MI5, for example, is colloquially known as Box 500 after its official wartime address of PO Box 500 and similarly MI6, the UK's external intelligence agency, is colloquially known as Box 850." voorts (talk/contributions) 01:09, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
Right, but this information should be available on the target page. 2001:999:68C:AC40:95AB:EBFF:5287:8BF0 (talk) 14:42, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris ^talk! 00:23, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

May 26[edit]

Guzzle (Transformers)[edit]

Guzzle (Transformers) → Autobot (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Minor character in the franchise, not mentioned in target Rusalkii (talk) 21:51, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Unless otherwise posted[edit]

Unless otherwise posted → Speed limits in the United States (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Not mentioned in target. Phrase does seem to be primarily used about speed limits in the United States and may make sense in the article, but is confusing with the article as is. Rusalkii (talk) 21:41, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

If redirected to speed limit in general, would that be better? Thanks WhyIsThisSoHard575483838 (talk) 01:33, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

@WhyIsThisSoHard575483838 If "speed limit" actually talks about the phrase or concept, sure. The point is to not confuse readers who don't know what the phrase means. Rusalkii (talk) 03:06, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

Dezarae Kristina Charles[edit]

Dezarae Kristina Charles → Adriana Chechik (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Not mentioned in target. I think this is in fact her legal name, but The Daily Star is the only source I can find that mentions it at all, and she's clearly not notable under it. Rusalkii (talk) 21:28, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Delete, basically WP:OR. BD2412 T 22:20, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
Delete. Sourcing is limited to tabloid journalism, inadequate for WP:BLPNAME purposes. —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 22:23, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
Delete. This redirect is part of a BLP violation, as the creator added the poorly-sourced name to the target article just after creating the redirect. The supporting WP:DAILYSTAR source for the addition was junk, and so the edit was reverted. • Gene93k (talk) 01:27, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

Parineeti Chadha[edit]

Parineeti Chadha → Parineeti Chopra (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Another married actress who did not take her husband's name after marriage. This redirect should not exist. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 19:44, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Delete: It is not compulsory for an Indian woman to adopt her husband's surname. Kailash29792 (talk) 03:00, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

Katrina Kaushal[edit]

Katrina Kaushal → Katrina Kaif (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Another married actress who did not take her husband's name after marriage. This redirect should not exist. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 19:41, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Kiara Malhotra[edit]

Kiara Malhotra → Kiara Advani (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Another married actress who did not take her husband's name after marriage. This redirect should not exist. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 19:36, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Anushka Sharma Kohli[edit]

Anushka Sharma Kohli → Anushka Sharma (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Another married actress who never took her husband's name after marriage. This redirect should not exist. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 19:20, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Rani Mukerji Chopra[edit]

Rani Mukerji Chopra → Rani Mukerji (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Another married actress who never took her husband's name after marriage. This redirect should not exist. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 19:19, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Comment Doesn't matter whether she took her husband's name or not. The name gives results on Getty Images, The Economic Times, Google, etc. Redirects are meant to be alternative names and not necessarily accurate (ex. Jennifer Pitt, Nicole Cruise). Keivan.f^Talk 19:24, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

None of those call her by that name. Also, WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 19:27, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

I'm sorry but they do. For example this one from NDTV: In the letter, signed Rani Mukerji Chopra, the 38-year-old actress writes of her hopes and fears for her baby daughter, of the anxiety and the joy that motherhood brings. Keivan.f^Talk 19:31, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

One passing instance of that name in over a decade of her marriage does not mean she's known by that name. But fine, this redirect can still be understandable because she's self-signed the letter. But for the other actresses, not so much. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 19:38, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Saskatoon berry pie[edit]

Saskatoon berry pie → Saskatoon berry pie (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Want to delete this page because a draft for Saskatoon berry pie exists and needs to be published as a new article. NotactuallyaDJ (talk) 19:02, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

IRC +10414[edit]

IRC +10414 → IRC −10414 (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Procedural listing; a previous RfD was closed with a consensus to retarget, but InTheAstronomy32 has reverted this. SevenSpheres (talk) 18:44, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Keep as a misspelling. I changed the redirect target because i believe that 'IRC +10414' is a misspelling of IRC -10414 and is the better redirect target so far. An article about this star likely will be never created due to notability issues. InTheAstronomy32 (talk) 18:48, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Retarget to Two-Micron Sky Survey per previous RFD. IRC +10414 refers to this star, not IRC -10414, which is this star. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 18:48, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
Delete This was never an article, and it isn't mentioned at either target. No pageviews in the last month. I really don't see how this redirect is helpful. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 00:18, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

Alia Bhatt Kapoor[edit]

Alia Bhatt Kapoor → Alia Bhatt (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Subject is not known by the name "Alia Bhatt Kapoor". A redirect such as this should not exist for married women who haven't changed/added their husband's name after marriage. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 18:28, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Comment I have no strong feelings about this, but when it comes to redirects it doesn't matter what the person is commonly known as. This is not the article's title. As long as some sources refer to her as such the redirect can serve a valid purpose when it comes to looking for the subject. Examples include this one which refers to the Newlywed Alia Bhatt Kapoor in the text. The name also yields results on Google. In short, redirects are cheap and they don't need to be 100% accurate; that's why we have ones such as Jennifer Pitt. Keivan.f^Talk 19:19, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

The question isn't what they are "commonly" known as. We should not assume that a married women should take her husband's last name, and that extends to poorly researched sources that call her by that name simply because she's married. It's highly misogynistic, unless ya'll create the same redirects for Ranbir Kapoor Bhatt or Virat Kohli Sharma. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 19:23, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

It's not for me to assume whether a woman or man has taken up her/his spouse's last name. When sources write something down we simply follow, and redirects are meant to ease the navigation process. Unfortunately, "Ranbir Kapoor Bhatt" doesn't yield any results anywhere, but "Alia Bhatt Kapoor" does and if someone decides to look that name up here after coming across it somewhere else, the redirect will take them to the actual article. Keivan.f^Talk 19:28, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Sources can call an actor many things. In this source, Kareena Kapoor Khan is called KKK, as do other sources such as this and this. Does that mean KKK should redirect to her article? Krimuk2.0 (talk) 19:31, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Of course not, because obviously Ku Klux Klan is the primary topic. However, if the name they are using for the person is inherently unique, then I don't see why it can't serve a purpose as a redirect. Keivan.f^Talk 19:37, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Why does it have to be unique? KKK (actress) is unique enough for a redirect. All I'm saying is that there are many ways to call a celebrity, doesn't mean they should all be redirects, especially when it comes to giving women identities that's not theirs, which is exactly what's problematic in the case of "Alia Bhatt Kapoor". Krimuk2.0 (talk) 19:40, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Functional derivative(physics)[edit]

Functional derivative(physics) → Functional derivative (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

I could nominate this for CSD per WP:X3 but the page history might be a bit too significant. It looks like a minor edit war happened where someone tried to create a page for something that already has a page. Delete as always. 104.7.152.180 (talk) 05:10, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Delete per WP:RDAB: this is still an implausible search term even if it doesn’t qualify for WP:X3. InterstellarGamer12321 (talk | contribs) 13:02, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Delete per above; the attempted article has nothing salvageable anyways. Ca ^{talk to me!} 14:07, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Delete it was an article in total for less than a day and as noted it doesn't appear to have any content work keeping. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:15, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Moon of the Spider(novel)[edit]

Moon of the Spider(novel) → List of Diablo novels#Moon of the Spider (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Can't be speedily deleted due to significant edit history, though I doubt the consensus would be any different here. 104.7.152.180 (talk) 03:49, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Delete per WP:RDAB: this is still an implausible search term even if it doesn’t qualify for WP:X3. InterstellarGamer12321 (talk | contribs) 13:02, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
Delete it was an article for several months in 2009/2010 but doesn't appear to contain any content not in Moon of the Spider. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:17, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

24th Mixed Brigade(Imperial Japanese Army)[edit]

24th Mixed Brigade(Imperial Japanese Army) → 24th Mixed Brigade (Imperial Japanese Army) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Can't be speedily deleted due to significant edit history, but it still falls under WP:X3 so I am nominating this here. 104.7.152.180 (talk) 03:49, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Delete per WP:RDAB: this is still an implausible search term even if it doesn’t qualify for WP:X3. InterstellarGamer12321 (talk | contribs) 13:01, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
Delete it was an article for a few days in 2007 and doesn't appear to contain any content not in the target. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:19, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

365(number)[edit]

365(number) → 365 (number) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Can't be speedily deleted due to significant edit history, but it still falls under WP:X3 so I am nominating this here. 104.7.152.180 (talk) 03:49, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Delete per WP:RDAB: this is still an implausible search term even if it doesn’t qualify for WP:X3. InterstellarGamer12321 (talk | contribs) 13:00, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
Delete it was an article for a few hours in 2005 and doesn't appear to contain any useful content. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:21, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

LGBT rights in Zealand[edit]

LGBT rights in Zealand → LGBT rights in Denmark (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Zealand not mentioned in article. Rusalkii (talk) 03:06, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

This is the sort of redirect where one would assume there's some grand complex history that explains how the redirect for "LGBT Rights in Zealand" got redirected to a page about a different nation on the other side of the planet. Nnnnnope. It was just... created that way, and the target page at the time had zero mention of--

wait

this isn't New Zealand

Keep Oh OH OKAY THAT MAKES SENSE NOW. Zealand is the name of the large island that makes up about half of the country of Denmark. While it's not directly mentioned in the article itself, it does repeatedly reference Copenhagen, which... is on the island of Zealand.

While it does possibly generate WP:SURPRISE for anyone who decides to abbreviate New Zealand to simply Zealand (which is wrong but hey, until a few minutes ago I didn't know where 'old' Zealand was), a hatnote at the beginning of the current target article would suffice, such as:

This is about LGBT rights in Denmark, the country that incorporates the island of Zealand. For LGBT rights in New Zealand, see LGBT rights in New Zealand.

~~...which... huh. That's a red link. ...Could drive someone to make the article in question I suppose?~~ Fixed link at 04:30, 26 May 2024 (UTC) 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 04:11, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Keep Redirects are cheap. Denmark is not a federal country, so there's no reason to assume that LGBT rights in Zealand differ from the rest of Denmark. I like Lunamann's suggestion for a hatnote. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 13:55, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Wich[edit]

Wich → -wich town (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Having created Wich (disambiguation), I doubt that there is a primary topic of the term, and propose to move the disambiguation page over this redirect. BD2412 T 00:02, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

Keep: Judging by the relative unnotability compared to the common -wich suffix, the existing page being a redirect to -wich town and keeping the existing hatnote on that page is fine. Just add a note at the top of wich (disambiguation) stating the primary topic. Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 07:35, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

The -wich suffix is still just a suffix, not the sort of thing someone would normally look for under the title without the leading hyphen. BD2412 T 14:48, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Support. Great job BD. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 20:23, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
Retarget to the new Wich (disambiguation). -wich can remain targeted at -wich town, but that's because the hyphen matters a lot. Without the hyphen it's entirely plausible that the searcher is looking for something else, and that there is no primary topic. (With the hyphen it's less ambiguous, and there is definitely a primary target in that case) Fieari (talk) 23:47, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
Support per Fieari - without the hyphen, this should point to the (new) DAB page. Walsh90210 (talk) 02:53, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris ^talk! 02:26, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Move as per nom. It's a bit silly imo for the primary page to be a redirect to a "Topic (disambiguation)" page. Instead of targeting Wich to Wich (disambiguation) as per Fieari and Walsh, instead move the contents of Wich (disambiguation) to Wich, leaving behind a redirect from the disambig page to the 'primary' page. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 04:18, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

NAAAP Pride Award[edit]

NAAAP Pride Award → NAACP#Awards (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Not mentioned in target. Rusalkii (talk) 02:08, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Delete as implausible typo. The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People is not the National Association of Asian American Professionals. mwwv ^converse∫_edits 20:03, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Progressive political values[edit]

Progressive political values → Progressivism in the United States#In the 21st century (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Progressiveness is not an inherently US concept. Rusalkii (talk) 02:06, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Seems like no-brainer retarget to Progressivism to me. Ca ^{talk to me!} 14:09, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Older[edit]

Old business[edit]