Talk:The American Outlaws

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November 2009[edit]

This page should not be deleted. We're one of the supporters groups for the US National Team and are currently developing our wikipedia page. We're working on adding sources and other reliable third party information.

Please review WP:ORG, Wikipedia's "notability" guideline concerning organizations. (Notability is how we refer to the criteria by which we determine whether an organization qualifies for an article on Wikipedia.) Have the American Outlaws been the subject of media coverage? If so, be sure to add that to the article. Good luck. — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 00:47, 22 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The American Outlaws definitely meet the notability guidelines. There are many US based supporter's groups with pages on wikipedia. Sam's Army is another US supporter's group and they as well have a page on wikipedia. Franharrington (talk) 03:07, 22 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe they are notable, but you have to provide evidence of that. The only sources cited are blogs (probably self-published, so not reliable sources or indications of notability) and the group's own website; independent sources are needed. There is a page on the Lincoln Journal Star's website[1] which suggests they may be notable, but more sources are needed. Whether other groups have articles is not relevant, supporters groups are not inherently notable (the Sam's Army article was nominated for speedy deletion, which was declined by one editor, but there hasn't been any discussion of whether it is notable enough for an article). snigbrook (talk) 11:08, 22 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ok. I added one reference to ESPN, which is a highly regarded 3rd party. Franharrington (talk) 17:40, 23 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Supporters groups are very notable in the developing world of American soccer, particularly to those who are actively involved in supporting the domestic side of the sport. Supporters groups like The American Outlaws are an integral part of culture of American soccer because of their fraternal like nature in bringing fans together in a supportive and social way around the US National Team.

The group has been featured in The Seattle Times [2], A Greenville, NC magazine - The G-Vegas Magazine - , [3], Douglas Zimmerman a San Francisco based photojournalist, [4], The Washington Post, [5], ESPN, [6], Ives Galarcep, a member of the North American Soccer Reporters, [7], United States Soccer Federation, [8] Garrett3000 (talk) 21:09, 22 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I wanted to include a link from the Boston Examiner site but it is blacklisted as spam for some reason.

Any update on this page? Garrett3000 (talk) 19:45, 23 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Do we really need the notability and 3rd party reference tags still? We have ESPN and multiple newspapers as sources now.Franharrington (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 06:26, 6 January 2010 (UTC).[reply]

Numbers next to chapters?[edit]

Is there any explanation for the numbers that are written next to the various cities? There doesn't appear to be any reason listed explaining it. Is it a membership count? The order in which the chapters were formed? I am not sure why either bit of information would be relevant here, but especially not when it is unexplained. 155.188.183.83 (talk) 16:45, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]