Talk:Martina Big

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Film debut[edit]

Her film debut 2017 is not correct. She starred at least in old adult movie years before. --2A02:8108:1C0:C55C:E0B5:ABAA:8B80:7EBF (talk) 20:45, 12 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have any sources to support those two rather big bouncy claims? (It's ok, you don't need to post excerpts.... us "old adults" will make do with IPornoMDb, etc.) Martinevans123 (talk) 21:23, 12 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Martina Big or Malaika Kubwa[edit]

According to this source^[1] her name is Malaika Kubwa and it is not her birth name. Opinions as to how to proceed?Jim1138 talk 17:20, 14 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'm struggling to see where Metro says that is not her birth name. I wonder could you point that out? I think we can all agree that "Martina Big" was not her birth name? Many thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:00, 14 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I copied the wrong citation for the name change. The ref for the name change is this one:^[2] No mention of her birth name there either, the article originally had her as "Martina Adam" seen here. Kubwa seems unlikely to be a Germanic name. Pinging the article creator - @Procrastinator16:: any source for her birth name? Procrastinator16 hasn't edited for a few months. Jim1138 talk 20:46, 14 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, I see thanks. Well no, as the article plainly says, Kubwa is Swahili. And she's only been called that for some 9 months. I'm guessing that "Martina Adam" may well have been her birth name, as given here. I've adjusted the opening sentence until we can come to a more definite conclusion. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:52, 14 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Obviously, you are a more through reader. I'll be on to other things. I primarily do wp:RCP. Short attention span... Cheers Jim1138 talk 23:56, 14 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Starkey, Adam (June 19, 2017). "Botched season 4: Woman with biggest breast implants in Europe wants a butt to match". Metro. Retrieved February 23, 2018.
^ "Martina Big - My Baptism To The African Woman Malaika Kubwa". allAfrica.com. Retrieved April 14, 2018.

Tina Small[edit]

Remember when you would allow a Tina Small page because all she has a very big boobs,yet you waste space on this utter joke.Sorry,this is just a tabloid as for a kook. Moomblum (talk) 17:02, 1 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You'll find Tina Small mentioned as one of the models in this article. We don't actually have an artilce yet for Tina herself, but we do have something close. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:07, 1 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Transracialism[edit]

Is nobody going to talk about how she professes to be transracial? Has claimed the German government allowed her to change the race on her ID from white to black? I don’t know anything about Wikipedia edits but this sounds fishy to me that it’s not in here when it’s on her personal website. 2601:C2:1000:12B0:0:0:0:C749 (talk) 13:18, 3 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

German ID do not say if you are white or black, so it's impossible for the government to have changed it. 2003:EA:AF1F:DF00:AC5A:3A1:74E:BB7E (talk) 06:59, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Transracialism again[edit]

I've taken out the mentions in Wikivoice of Big's supposed transracialism because the idea that one can voluntarily change races through cosmetic surgery is pretty clearly WP:FRINGE. That's not to say that race is a biological reality, but it isn't generally understood to be voluntary either. Unless we have really solid WP:FRIND sources describing her as having "changed races," I would suggest that re-adding language stating this in Wikivoice constitutes a WP:BLP violation and subject to WP:BLPREMOVE. Generalrelative (talk) 20:05, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Generalrelative: I've reverted it twice already, I can only go one more to not violate 3RR, but this user is very persistent in trying to add it in. Yoshi24517 ^Chat _Online 20:09, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Generalrelative: Can't go anymore due to 3RR, but they are still trying to get it on there. Yoshi24517 ^Chat _Online 20:12, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Technically you can, because it's a BLP issue, but hopefully it won't come to that. Thanks for your help here. I've left them an EW warning, and if they do it again I'll file the report at 3RRN. Note that this appears to be the subject's partner, so a clear COI violation as well. Generalrelative (talk) 20:20, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Michaelbig You need to come here and explain your edits, otherwise you may be blocked from editing. If not, you will be reported to ANEW. Yoshi24517 (mobile) (talk) 20:39, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Starkey, Adam (June 19, 2017). "Botched season 4: Woman with biggest breast implants in Europe wants a butt to match". Metro. Retrieved February 23, 2018.

[2] "Martina Big - My Baptism To The African Woman Malaika Kubwa". allAfrica.com. Retrieved April 14, 2018.

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