Talk:Graham Pulkingham

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Request for deletion[edit]

Wow, that was fast, a speedy request for speedy deletion! I've only just started creating this article and hopefully will soon be able to demonstrate that Graham Pulkingham is notable enough for a Wikipedia article. I have already added a reference to a source about him, and will add at least one more before extending the article.--Chris Jefferies 08:51, 1 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The book isn't even influential. I did a quick Google search, and all it came up with was Amazon.com "Buy This Book" entries. Delete this please. - Pandacomics 09:15, 1 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It depends what you mean by influential, the book deeply affected a great number of people at the time. However, I've already added further (independent) references and I hope the speedy delete won't be decided on the basis of this one. The book is actually a self-reference, it will be useful to anyone wanting to know more, but it cannot be used to justify keeping the article so please take a look at the others.--Chris Jefferies 10:05, 1 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Certainly he was notable, and published in multiple countries. The 'notability' criterion seems to be misused sometimes. Surely the idea is to ensure Wikipedia doesn't fill up with vanity pages; not to censor material about published authors, who appealed to one section of the community. Roger Pearse 11:34, 1 October 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Roger Pearse (talk • contribs)

Actually I came here to read a bit about him after this book (http://www.amazon.com/Days-Fire-Glory-Charismatic-Community/dp/0979027977/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1252797850&sr=8-1) being recommended to me. If anything the article misses the controversy associated with the man (homosexual at a time before the Episcopalians accepted it and pedophilia). If he has a published biography this shouldn't be deleted. Nickjost (talk) 20:24, 16 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I certainly hope this article is not deleted, as Graham Pulkingham was a major player in the UK scene. For a while he was based in Coventry, and in the early 1970s was the main speaker at the Diocesan Conference. As a result of his ministry people like myself came forward into Ministy - Dr Michael Foster, Rector Chase Benefice, Dorset UK. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.7.7.213 (talk) 14:27, 20 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

References[edit]

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Rev. Graham Pulkingham was an important figure in a significant movement within the Episcopal Church, and typical in many ways of the leaders of that time. Anyone wishing to understand the Evangelical and Charismatic movements within mainline Christianity in the 1970's and 1980's will find a handful of preachers and authors whose voices were central to the development of the movements. The development of the evangelical and charismatic movements in the Episcopal church contributed to the polarization now seen as the Epsicopal Church struggles with other issues, including sexuality and the secession of some parishes. Without understanding how the church came to its current state of diversity, news stories about the church in the current media have no context. Graham Pulkingham's significance and claim to space in Wikipedia is based on his place in modern church history, a specialized subject, but no less important than many other subjects of narrow interest that are covered in the Wikipedia. - I know this to be true from personal experience. I never met Rev. Pulkingham, but his work and his wife's affected churches that I attended in Alabama, in South Carolina, and in France. Bonnie205 (talk) 03:24, 27 February 2008 (UTC)Bonnie205[reply]

Request for uprate from stub[edit]

Hi. I've been to the article to assess an uprating request. Addressing the first major problem, I have inserted an approximate year of birth, worked out from two references, one of which I have used for verification in the article. Preferably, someone will be able to source an exact date of birth at some point.

However, the article is honestly scarce of in-depth information on the man (and his wife), whilst saying much about his works. The internet references quoted almost exclusively need subscription, sometimes paid, to access full versions of the articles being cited, although some basic verification is possible from the synopses. As you may know, sources which require registration should not be used in Wikipedia, and certainly not by paid subscription, so they are dubious.

For those reasons, I am not willing to uprate the article. I post this as an attempt to get someone to address the issues stated, in order that the article might hopefully be expanded, further referenced, and upgraded, in the future. Thanks. Ref ^(chew)(do) 16:04, 27 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have read the article and find that it does not have much detail. Also, the article for the Community of Celebration has no sources and does not establish notability. To no longer be a stub I think more information is needed as to why this man and the community he established is important.Ltwin (talk) 05:58, 28 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Needs to have more about Pulkingham[edit]

I'm browsing through Julia Duin's materials, and she seems to regard Pulkingham as a highly significant person in the Charismatic Movement and the Jesus movement. Her recently published book Days of Fire and Glory [1] tells a lot about Pulkingham that our article currently leaves out.

Since he's dead there's no BLP problem with telling about his homosexuality and "inner torment". Clerical abuse is not limited to the Catholic Church. --Uncle Ed (talk) 19:40, 3 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment comment[edit]

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Graham Pulkingham/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

Rated as a Stub class article for the purposes of Wikipedia:WikiProject Charismatic Christianity/Assessment Wikiproject Charismatic Christianity. The article is brief and fails to cover the childhood, education, family, and early career of Graham Pulkingham. It deals only briefly with his ministry, impact on the Charismatic movement, and retirement. The article needs extending to cover all these aspects, at least briefly, and contain a suitable image in order to reach Start class.--Chris Jefferies 22:03, 1 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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