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Zorro etc.

Does anyone know why there's an acute accent on Eléna ? Paul Magnussen (talk) 05:29, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Paul Magnussen it could be a Hypercorrection by the film's producers (another common one is the use of Isabella as a Hispanic name, when it is Isabel). It doesn't feature on any of the cited references (The NYT ref doesn't even name the character). IMDB are usually very rigid with names from credits. Their page about the character doesn't use accents in the title, but several sub-pages do. This trivial matter is indeed very confusing Anarcho-authoritarian (talk) 13:19, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

As English-language references usually omit all accent marks, the one true reference would be the film's credits, which I cannot access. Anarcho-authoritarian (talk) 13:24, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Suspect a well-meaning added accent to show syllable emphasis for English speakers, completely superfluous in Spanish as that is where it would lie under normal rules. In English the name in its various forms (Ellen, Eleanor, Helen, Helena etc) tends to stress the first syllable. Introduced by a person anonymous and occasionally copied. That's my OR for the day. Davidships (talk) 18:43, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Name

It would be helpful to identify when CZJ added the hyphen (looks like early 2000s from a cursory scan of references) and whether this is just a stage name or was a real change to her surname at the time. Davidships (talk) 11:09, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

The reliable sources do not clarify the point, from what I remember. - SchroCat (talk) 11:19, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Same here. I think it used to appear in the article. The note is sourced to that Daily Telegraph article. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:20, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

The D Tel article just says "The hyphen arrived later and was the first of many self-reinventions", so not much help in dating the change. - SchroCat (talk) 11:28, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

This source suggests at least from 1999. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:24, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. DTel doesn't say much, does it: the hyphen arrived later.... than her birth! Seems like something that emerged in late-1990s, looking at some of the original film posters (hyphen-less on The Phantom (1996 film) and, as you note, with one in 1998 for The Mask of Zorro). The Stage is online for that period, but could find nothing specific. A RS will probably only arrive in an eventual proper biography. Davidships (talk) 12:56, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Date of Birth

For years, the world who knows her has noticed that she is aging backwards. Latest newspaper and magazine articles clock her age at 48, when in fact she's early 50s. Googling her dob doesn't work, as it's all rigged. So listen to those of us who knew her as a youngster, and know that she is NOT 48 in 2017, she's 52-54. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bee Ready (talk • contribs) 04:11, 27 October 2017 (UTC)

The England & Wales Civil Registration Birth Index can't be rigged, and it shows Catherine Zeta Jones (no hyphen) was born in the last quarter of 1969 in Swansea, West Glamorgan. Mother's maiden name was Fair. Source: General Register Office; United Kingdom; Birth Register Indexes; Reference: Volume 8b, Page 4595. She may have fibbed about her age in the past, but she will turn 49 at the end of 2018. Theheartof (talk) 21:27, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Quite agree. England & Wales Civil Registration Birth Index can't be rigged. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:37, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

You clearly didn't know her - if you did you wouldn't be giving a 2 year range for her real age. I did, she was in the school year below mine. Born 1969. She has never claimed any different. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aredbeardeddwarf (talk • contribs) 21:52, 2 June 2021 (UTC)