Talk:Bolek Polívka

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copy-edit[edit]

Hi Antonin - best check this one. I removed one sentence, as it's sense seemed to be contained further up. I've also transposed his birthplace up a few paras. Yours, H. Haploidavey (talk) 23:54, 26 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Controversy section[edit]

Hello. I followed the "Did you know?" link here and have a few suggestions on ways to improve this article slightly. I don't wish to offend any of the original authors, so this is merely a suggestion. The controversy section is somewhat confusing. Perhaps it can be expanded slightly to differentiate between Polívka crowning himself King Boleslaw of the Kingdom of Wallachia in a TV sketch in 1993 and the later invention of a Wallachian Kingdom by Harabiš in 1997? It was only after the second incarnation that the two became associates. As it is currently written, the time difference isn't at all clear, nor the separate references which later evolved into the partnership of the two men. The separate invention by the two men of the fictitious kingdom and the difference in years seems to be a large part of the dispute between them now. I'd also recommend that the mention of the Wallachian Kingdom be changed to link to the existing Wikipedia page Kingdom of Wallachia rather than to the Wikipedia page for the very real historical region of Moravian Wallachia. 24.174.64.160 (talk) 07:22, 4 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Your courtesy is much appreciated but previous editing by Vejvan (post-edit: that's Antonin by another name, as addressed in my first post) and myself don't constitute claims of "ownership". My role in editing the article has been limited to style-edits of V's English. You seem to have a clear grasp on several issues regarding content, including links. Please go ahead with any changes you think would improve the article. Regards. Haploidavey (talk) 11:24, 4 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you 24.174.64.160 and HD. The main purpose of my DYK nominations is exactly this. A lot of users/readers/editors can fix my mistakes or find unnoticed problems. I usually write basic informative articles containing many links and sources for possible expansion. Be bold 24.174.64.160, create an account and feel free to edit the article. I'm not the owner, as Davey said. I'll try to improve that section in the next days - thanks for your suggestions. Btw, I'm one of the editors of the fictional Kingdom of Wallachia, but I didn't find it here and I thought it was deleted... ...my mistake. --Vejvančický (talk) 12:21, 4 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
My profound apologies for failing to notice that I wasn't logged in when making the above suggestions. I usually just patrol recent changes. I'm not at all comfortable yet making substantial changes to existing pages. I do hope, however, that my suggestions are useful. The article caught my eye because I am fond of medieval history, especially that of Central and Eastern Europe. My curiosity led me to this page and I found it intriguing. Keep up the great work and thanks! Age Happens (talk) 13:08, 4 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The changes made to the controversy section make it much easier to understand. Thanks! Age Happens (talk) 19:18, 5 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hm, the section was almost identical - helpful editor fixed link to Kingdom of Wallachia, but that was all. I've added few sentences, can you check it? Is it clearer now? --Vejvančický (talk) 22:12, 5 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps AH's second reading was informed by his own researches? What you've added looks useful, V. I'll just run through it. Haploidavey (talk) 23:13, 5 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Just checked the BBC page and re-read AH's first post. I think the problem lay with the use of "kingdom", "Wallachian Kingdom" and "Kingdom of Wallachia". I've changed the text so it's consistent with terms used at the BBC site. Regards! Haploidavey (talk) 23:47, 5 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

(unindented) Actually, we've a bit of a problem with terminology. The BBC uses "Wallachian Kingdom" but we're internally linked in the article text to "Kingdom of Wallachia" - evidently the same thing, but having the link where it is implies that Polívka was directly involved in setting up the registered Kingdom. As far as I can tell (which isn't much, I admit!) he wasn't. Perhaps we should either change the linked header title (to match the BBC term) or simply move the linkage. Haploidavey (talk) 23:57, 5 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Have moved links - now sorted, more or less. Haploidavey (talk) 00:21, 6 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Davey. Everything is clear, I think, and readers can click on refs and find out more. I don't want to deal with "controversies", but this case is very important and was covered in the world media, therefore it was necessary to mention it. I like Polívka rather as the jester in "The Jester and the Queen", one of the most beautiful theatre plays I've ever seen. I almost died of laugh :)) Young Polívka was real genius. --Vejvančický (talk) 17:06, 6 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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