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Twitter[edit]

This edit removed the link to Arda's twitter. Why was this done? Please restore it. Arda is the first person at TheScoreTvTalent and his Twitter is listed right there, so it is official.

If anyone agrees with me, we outvote the remover 2 to 1 and I think should restore it by reverting that portion of the edit. Ranze (talk) 04:50, 17 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Moving Article to Real Name[edit]

It would be better to move this article back to his real name. Regardless of how long he worked for them. He isn't well known enough under this name to warrant the article being kept under the alias "Kyle Edwards." I am just putting it up for discussion. Mr. C.C.^{Hey yo!}_{I didn't do it!} 06:04, 10 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding his real name: I just hosted Arda on a podcast and he personally wishes that he would not be primarily known as Kyle Edwards. His stint with WWE was not very long and he is known throughout sports media by his real name, Arda Öcal. Please consider amending his page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tmoney2628 (talk • contribs) 15:40, 3 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 10 January 2019[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: moved as requested per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 06:37, 18 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Kyle Edwards → Arda Ocal – Kyle Edwards was a stage name given to Arda Ocal at WWE and used for a duration of two years. Between his work at ESPN, NBC Sports, TRT World The Score Televiosn Network / Aftermath and more, all under the name Arda Ocal, Kyle Edwards is a misleading header for this entry. While it should be noted in it's use during his time in WWE, Arda Ocal is the more prominent name used publicly in his career. Ardaocal (talk) 19:45, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Support move, it's the likely WP:COMMONNAME from a quick google search. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 09:58, 11 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Notability[edit]

While I consider it likely that Ocal would be considered notable, the article lacks the sort of references that would establish this notability. We can't use a now-dead link, a bunch of links to his interviews and a blogpost for purposes of notability. Better sources are necessary. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 07:21, 14 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The sourcing on this article is bad, but a dead-link doesn't mean that it no longer contributes to GNG. However, a few reasonably decent refs [1], [2], [3] Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 09:55, 11 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Also, notability is not proven by what sources are in the article, but what sources exist in general. MPJ-DK (talk) 12:20, 11 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]