Talk:Archibald Douglas, 4th Earl of Douglas

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As this article is rated B-class by several other projects, and technically meets the word of all the B-class criteria for WPMILHIST, I have no problem assigning it that ranking. However, I do believe the article could be significantly improved by some simple format changes. Firstly, the image of the seal at the top left corner pushes the entire intro paragraph and table of contents into the center, which is awkward. Second, there are way too many sub-headings, and the text would look meatier, denser, more comprehensive if many of those were removed. I think. LordAmeth 18:20, 28 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

“Loser”?[edit]

Uhm. What does the term “loser” — introduced in lead by Brendandh in the edit at 2007-03-13T22:14:02 — mean in this context? --Xover 14:26, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's what Tyneman means see here. Angus McLellan (Talk) 14:53, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm. An unfortunate thing to put in the lead on a biographical article. Sufficiently so that it sent me on a vandal hunt when I saw it. I also don't see this covered in the main body of the article. Perhaps an alternate way to communicate this information might be preferable? --Xover 15:16, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

'tyneman' is indeed an old word meaning loser. To describe the word as being 'Scots' is however misleading. True it appears in the Dictionary of the Older Scots Tongue, but 'tyne' etc is acknowledged both there and in the OED as being 'Middle English'. Cassandra.

Killed or 'being the death of?[edit]

Paul Barlow's amendment, changing 'being the death of Edmund Stafford, 5th Earl of Stafford' to 'killed' changes the meaning. Did Archibald kill Edmund - or cause his death? Shipsview (talk) 21:08, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Lieutenant-general??[edit]

'Douglas was given the post of 'Lieutenant-General in the waging of war through all the Kingdom of France.' Surely this title Lieutenant General of France in the middle ages signified a rank comparing to head of the army rather than the modern army rank of a lieutenant-general. Suggest pipe link be removed. --Bill Reid | (talk) 13:37, 9 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

See here: [1]. Think rather the article on Lieutenant General needs to be improved! Various of the Douglases and others were also "Lieutenant" of the Kingdom of Scots, a considerably higher rank than the contemporary military usage. Brendandh (talk) 15:15, 9 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Daughters[edit]

The recently added Marjory should be Mary, I think. Mary Douglas (b c1390) "elder legitimate daughter"? m. (1406-7) Sir Simon Glendonwyn of Glendonwyn (b c1378, d 1437) ('Stirnet' & 'thepeerage') Shipsview (talk) 15:12, 15 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]