Talk:1 (New York City Subway service)/GA1

GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: Dom497 (talk · contribs) 02:50, 20 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

Is it well written?
A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:

B. It complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation:
Is it verifiable with no original research?
A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:

B. All in-line citations are from reliable sources, including those for direct quotations, statistics, published opinion, counter-intuitive or controversial statements that are challenged or likely to be challenged, and contentious material relating to living persons—science-based articles should follow the scientific citation guidelines:

C. It contains no original research:

D. It contains no copyright violations nor plagiarism:
Is it broad in its coverage?
A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic:

B. It stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style):
Is it neutral?
It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:
Is it stable?
It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute:
Is it illustrated, if possible, by images?
A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:

B. Images are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:
Overall:
Pass or Fail:

Will begin review shortly. :) --Dom497 (talk) 02:50, 20 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Lead[edit]

"The 1 operates at all times" - change to "The line currently operates 24-hours a day"

Done

Real question because I don't know: Is "In 1918, the modern IRT "H" system was introduced and the earlier trunk line service was discontinued" related to 1 subway line?

Removed. Not that important

I would like to get Kew Gardens 613's perspective on this. He helped make the IRT Broadway–Seventh Avenue Line article to a good article, and the 1 train runs along the entirety of the line. The modern H system that is being referred to, was what created the Bway-7th Ave Line. However, the 1 train's history is vastly different as it refers to the service pattern that runs over the line. epicgenius (talk) 00:55, 22 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I need to go to bed so I can get to school early to get work done tomorrow. I should have some time to look at this tomorrow. Epicgenius is correct that the history of the 1 is very different from the history of the line. There is a lot more about its history in the 1920s and 1930s that needs to be added to this article.--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 00:57, 22 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I wonder if mentioning something in the lead about how 9/11 disrupted the operation of the 1 line is notable enough to include. Thoughts?

Added a bit. I agree it is notable.

Service History[edit]

There doesn't seem to be much discussion about the construction process of the subway or the planning of it (what were the motivations behind building this subway line?).

If you view any other subway line, the construction process is usually omitted. The motivation was that the line was on the first subway route. It was build for the first generation of the NY subway.

The actual reason is that this is not a subway "line", i.e. actual infrastructure, but a subway "service", i.e. the train which runs over the line. As per New York City Subway nomenclature. I think Kew Gardens 613 may know more about this, but he is not online today. epicgenius (talk) 19:55, 21 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Early service[edit]

"When the first subway opened between 1904 and 1908..." - First subway in the world, US, North America, IRT? Make it clear what "first subway" is referring to.

Done

Could we maybe split the first sentence of the third paragraph into two sentences?

Done

"Late night service was not operated" - There isn't really any context regarding this sentence...or it is just written poorly. Maybe moving this sentence to the end of the paragraph and changing it to "No trains operated for late night service"

Done

Paragraphs 4, 5, and 6 can all be merged into a single paragraph.

Done

"Beginning on May 10, 1946, all 1 Brooklyn trains" - So far the article has used the terms "1 Local", "1 Express", and "1". I understand what local and express mean but what does Brooklyn mean? Is it the equivalent to "1"?
"Previously all 1 trains ran local from 12:30 to 5:30 am..." - Providing the exact operation times seems a little too detailed. I don't think we need them.

Wouldn't removing the times make it not an accurate statement? AmericanAir88^(talk) 11:46, 23 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"On June 12, 1949, 137th Street to South Ferry Sunday locals were discontinued..." - "On June 12, 1949, 137th Street to South Ferry Sunday local trains were discontinued..."

Done

"On March 15, 1954, weekend 137th Street to South Ferry locals were discontinued" - "On March 15, 1954, weekend 137th Street to South Ferry local trains were once again discontinued..."

Done

"...when alternate rush trains ran express between..." - "...when alternate rush hour trains ran express between..."

Done

"This proved unsuccessful..." - Why?
- @Kew Gardens 613: epicgenius (talk) 00:55, 22 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
"...weekday trains were rerouted to Flatbush Avenue and evening 137th Street to South Ferry locals were discontinued." - "...weekday trains were rerouted to Flatbush Avenue and evening 137th Street to South Ferry local trains were discontinued."

Done

Will continue later.--Dom497 (talk) 00:29, 21 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comments[edit]

@Dom497: Thank you for taking this on. AmericanAir88^(talk) 17:32, 21 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@AmericanAir88: Hey. Life's gotten busy for the next few days. I'll get back to this review next week. Sorry.--Dom497 (talk) 10:57, 24 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I'm going to have to back out the review. I won't be able to complete it. I've reset the GAN template on the talk page so the bot should put it the nomination back in the correct location within the backlog.--Dom497 (talk) 20:22, 7 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Dom497: I am sorry to hear that. However, preferably you should have requested for a second opinion instead. This pushes the nomination back into the backlog. It is fine with what you did though. Hope everything is ok. AmericanAir88^(talk) 18:12, 8 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]