Wikipedia:Requests for mediation/Assault rifle

Assault rifle

The filing party (the editor who opened this request) will add the basic details for this dispute below.

Editors involved in this dispute

1. TeeTylerToe (talk · contribs) – filing party
2. Thomas.W (talk · contribs)
3. RAF910 (talk · contribs)
4. Skyring (talk · contribs)

Articles affected by this dispute

1. Assault rifle (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Other attempts at resolving this dispute that you have attempted

• Talk:Assault rifle#False, unsourced claim, and generally the article's a mess of Apocrypha and bias

Issues to be mediated

What is this dispute about? What sections, sentences, or issues in the article(s) can you not agree on? If you are the editor who opened this request, list these issues to be mediated under "Primary issues". If you did not open this request, you can add additional issues to be mediated under "Additional issues". The issues to be mediated would be properly agreed upon later, if this request for mediation is accepted.

Primary issues (added by the filing party)

1. Should the article suppress the narrative that there was any development of assault rifle concepts or intermediate cartridges outside germany before the StG-44 or the german machine carbine program started?

Additional issues (added by other parties)

• Additional issue 1
• Additional issue 2

Parties' agreement to mediation

If you are a named party, please sign below and indicate whether you agree or refuse to participate in mediation. Remember that all editors are obliged to resolve disputes about content through discussion, mediation, or other similar means. If you do not wish to participate in mediation, you must arrange another form of dispute resolution. Comments and questions should be made underneath the numbered list below, to avoid confusion.

1. Agree. TeeTylerToe (talk) 17:26, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
2. Disagree. --Pete (talk) 17:56, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

Comment by Thomas.W

I have no intention of taking part in this ridiculous forum shopping. The disagreement on Assault rifle isn't about "suppressing" any information, it is about TeeTylerToe claiming that the first assault rifle wasn't the StG-44 but a totally unknown American weapon from 1917, "The Burton Balloon Buster", a weapon that doesn't fit the mainstream definition of "assault rifle", was never intended to be an infantry rifle (only to destroy observation balloons, mounted on an aircraft), and never entered service. A view he hasn't gotten any support for on Talk:Assault rifle, just like he didn't get any support for his views, and his claim that the article violates WP:NPOV at the NPOV noticeboard. He is currently also edit-warring to keep a frivolous POV-tag on the article, added because of him not getting his way. A quick look on his talk page also shows that what he's been doing on Assault rifle, i.e. pushing fringe ideas, posting endless walls of text on the talk page to wear people down, and edit-war until he gets his way, is his standard way of doing things, and something he has been blocked for multiple times. Thomas.W ^talk 18:01, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

Decision of the Mediation Committee

This section should only be edited by a mediator. The Mediation Committee's representative will indicate in due course whether the request is accepted (meaning a mediator will be assigned) or rejected (meaning you will have to try a different type of dispute resolution). If the mediator asks you a question in this section, you may edit here.

• Reject. Fails to satisfy prerequisite for mediation #8, "No related dispute resolution proceedings are active in other Wikipedia forums." An active RFC is such a proceeding. Once the RFC has been closed, this or some other form of dispute resolution may be used, but if you do refile here or at dispute resolution noticeboard, please be sure to list all of the editors substantially involved in the discussion; I note at the talk page that at least one and perhaps more have not been listed here. For the Mediation Committee, TransporterMan (TALK) 17:54, 14 July 2016 (UTC)