Wikipedia:Peer review/Shahbag/archive2

Shahbag[edit]

This article has come a long way, and is almost ready for FAC. Please, lend a hand in polishing the article to Wikiepedia's finest standards. Aditya Kabir 16:45, 31 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comments
What about the administration of the area? Municipal wards, thana (which is Shahbag thana, as the article states) etc? I see that the infobox contains such information, but how about creating a section that will state the administration in some more detail, and also address administrative problems or uniqueness, if any? The section can be named "Civic administration" and could include electric supply, telecommunication, sewage, transport etc. I just found that Dhaka does not list Shahbag as a thana, why?

Explanation: The information in the Dhaka artcile must be dated. Number of thanas in Dhaka has incresed twofolds in the last decade. Aditya Kabir 21:20, 31 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Update: I have put a note on Talk: Dhaka asking for a change in that article, but haven't made the required significant change to that FA right away. Aditya Kabir 14:51, 3 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What about geography and climate of the area? (data can be taken from Dhaka, mentioning that the neighbourhood does not have a separate met office and utilises Dhaka met office, if that is the case). In geography also can be mentioned any water bodies, or any other special geo feature (like the garden, if it exists still).
The web references need date of retrieval.

Update: Done. Aditya Kabir 04:24, 7 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 20:44, 31 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

First look
cite the 7th century claim.

Update: Done. Aditya Kabir 04:24, 7 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"with the decline of mughal power"--nothing before this prepares use for this sentence. Atleast one sentence abt when Mughal rule started in Dhaka should precede this.

Update: Done. Aditya Kabir 04:24, 7 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Garden of the Kings" -- though this is introduced in intro, do so again. The intro is meant to be a summary of what in the rest of the article. In fact that whole para is problematic: "lost splendour", we haven't told about any splendor before this point.

Questions: It is written four sentences befor the splendor thing that - ...Shahbag or the Garden of the Kings became a forgotten project - is it falling short on clarification? Aditya Kabir 14:51, 3 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Update: Copyedited to accommodate the issue. Aditya Kabir 04:24, 7 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"first office of Bangladesh Betar" -- is this then a post 1971 event? Date this. "the Bangla Academy during the Language movement. " the bangla academy article says it was establised in 1955, after the lang movement.--ppm 20:52, 31 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Update: Done. Aditya Kabir 04:24, 7 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

More comments

"Urban layout" and "Civic life" are not well organized. The later has stuff that should be in the former. "Urban layout" on the other hand, almost solely focuses on three old mansions, which do not dominate the current urban design. "platform for all political-cultural movements" -- "all" is streatching it. "The Bangla Academy initiated the first Boishakhi Mela ... is also sponsored by major cell-phone and carbonated drink brands. " -- last part quite unnecessary

Request: Can someone lead me to a couple examples of appropriate content of Urban Layout and Civic Life sections? Aditya Kabir 12:59, 3 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Look for similar stuff--ppm 17:53, 1 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Review by Nichalp

Copyedit needed
7th century -- spell the number (same with 1st etc.)
Map should be svg. Is it scaled?
Echo above concerns on urban layout.
collector --> wikify as district collector
- Done by now. --Ragib 20:32, 6 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Mr. Walters --> remove Mr.

Request: Can't locate Walters' full name in any of the sources I am currently using. Can someone with an access to Raj Records help me on this? Aditya Kabir 12:59, 3 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It seems that this Walters is Henry Walters , per this page from censusindia. Added that. --Ragib 20:32, 6 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

double decker buses should be right aligned
- Done by now. --Ragib 20:32, 6 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
khanqah --> meaning needed so that a user does not have to click on the link
14 April --> wikify
- Done by now. --Ragib 20:32, 6 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Neighboring Thanas --> I believe Bangladesh uses British English?
- Done by now. --Ragib 20:28, 6 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
in early 19th ??
- Edited to "in the early 19th" --Ragib 20:28, 6 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
then powerful --> how powerful?
DHAKA UNDER THE EAST INDIA COMPANY --> remove all caps
- Done by now. --Ragib 20:28, 6 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Format all references & notes using standard cite templates
What is Syed Muhammed Taifoor doing under ==See also==
- Removed now. --Ragib 20:28, 6 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

=Nichalp «Talk»= 18:23, 1 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Review by Niaz

I have gone through the whole article and found some of the parts that should be improved. Besides, this article demands some of the points to be added in order to give it a complete touch.

This article started in a nice way but ended up with a messy style. I didn’t found any organized conclusion and I just felt all on a sudden it ends.
Shahbag’s importance related to our liberation war can be arranged with a separate sub heading. It will be more appropriate if we can provide a picture of Banga Bondhu’s 7-e March Speech on Ramna Rasecourse.
I personally felt this article demands two special pictures, 1. A picture of Dhaka University, if it is ‘Aporajeo Bangla’, that will be the best. 2. A picture of Ramna Park.
Ramna Bomb-explosion can also be a sub heading as it was (or is!) one of the burning issues related to this place. We should also mention terrorist’s fate and current undergoing investigation by the law-n-order force with in one or two lines.

Other than those parts, overall article is well written. Niaz bd 05:50, 7 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the comments. I do disagree about giving prominence to the recent incidents per WP:RECENT. The 7th march speech of Sheikh Mujib is still under copyright, and hence we shouldn't use it here. Does Aparajeyo Bangla fall under the Shahbag thana? --Ragib 08:36, 7 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It does (see the map), but is more relevant to Dhaka University. The article has enough images as it is. Aditya Kabir 01:40, 9 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Review by Arman

The article once says that Paribanu was the daughter of Khwaja Salimullah (History Section) and later says she was his sister (Urban Layout Section). I'm not sure which one is correct. Could someone please check and correct it?-Arman Aziz 11:20, 10 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]