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Communist Party of China

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I've listed this article for peer review because I would like to prep it for GA status.... As of now, the grammar is not the best, but I'll be working on that. --TIAYN (talk) 21:38, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Lede

• My concern is that this article's lede is so short, particularly given the length of the rest of the article. For instance, it does not mention Mao Zedong (surely an omission) and does not go into any discussion of the ideological background to the CPP. Midnightblueowl (talk) 20:04, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
• We mention the 18th National Congress, but not the date in which it took place, which should be fairly important here. Midnightblueowl (talk) 20:04, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

History

• One of the main sources used here is ""History of the Communist Party of China". Xinhua. 29 April 2011. Retrieved 4 January 2014", which seems to me to be the product of the Chinese state news. We can do better than that, surely ? Let's get some academic historical accounts of the CPP history in here. Midnightblueowl (talk) 20:15, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Other comments

• This page could probably do with more images; for instance, could we use an image of Mao, or Deng, or any of the CPC's founding members ? Midnightblueowl (talk) 20:31, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
  •  Working --TIAYN (talk) 10:56, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
• This article is very long. Most of that is necessary, I appreciate, but when sections such as "Party-to-party relations" are considerably longer than that on "History", then I think that we have some problems on appropriate weight. Branch some of these sections off, creating articles devoted solely to them, and then edit this page down as a result. Midnightblueowl (talk) 20:54, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
  • @Midnightblueowl: First, do you really think "party-to-party relations" is notable enough to have its own article? Secondly, the article is currently missing sections on the Communist Youth League, a separate organization controlled by the CPC (according to the party constitution) and the People's Liberation Army, the armed wing of the CPC... Of course, I'm planning to create an ideology titled Ideology of the Communist Party of China, or Ideology of the party and state of China (which isn't as clear, but the PRC is officially committed to all these ideologies).. And while I know the "History" section is short, many things could be expanded; the "Economics", "Politburo", "Secretariat", "Central Commission for Discipline Inspection" etc etc.. Of course, I understand what you're getting at. --TIAYN (talk) 10:56, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
    • I think that there's certainly enough material to create a fledgling "International party relations of the CPC" page. How many other people would read it is another matter, but it would certainly help clear up problems of weight on this article. Midnightblueowl (talk) 18:55, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
• The page could do with a thorough copy edit from someone more talented at that than I. For instance, where we say "The CPC, as an officially atheist institution, prohibits party members from holding religious beliefs", it would be shorter to state "The CPC is officially atheist, and prohibits its members from holding religious beliefs." Midnightblueowl (talk) 21:02, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
  • I'm working on that, and the article is currently listed on the Guild of Copyeditors (it was nominated in early December)... So, help will come soon. --TIAYN (talk) 10:56, 8 January 2014 (UTC)--TIAYN (talk) 10:56, 8 January 2014 (UTC)