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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list removal nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was kept by User:Alaskan assassin 17:05, 8 July 2008 [1].

List of tallest buildings and structures in London[edit]

Note: Notified are Seaserpent85‎, WikiProject Skyscrapers, WikiProject Architecture, and WikiProject London. -- Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 01:07, 20 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This list currently has only six references, and about 50 buildings listed. On the list, it lacks a catagory for notes, and a timeline of tallest buildings. which is standerd on United States building list. It also has, MoS violations, and lacks a few meters to feet conversions. There is an unclear divide between buildings and structures. In the case of the BT Tower, even though it is listed by emporis and skyscraperpage as a non-building tower, it is listed here as a regular building. The Croydon transmitting station is listed, envn though there is already a List of tallest buildings and structures in Croydon. Also what does "Helter Skelter", "Cheesegrater", and "Walkie Talkie" mean? Alaskan assassin (talk) 02:21, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think these matters are better raised on the talk page of the article. Most of the problems noted are relatively easily fixable; it has probably drifted since its first listing. Croydon is a small part of Greater London - and should probably be subsumed into this list (ie there doesn't seem to be a reason for a separate list for Croydon). Kbthompson (talk) 09:54, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Remove—Pity, they're just not taking it seriously: one little edit since nomination! Worth another ping? I've left another note at the talk page. TONY (talk) 03:37, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'm certainly prepared to give you the benefit of the doubt - I just hope you haven't left it too late. As I noted, I think many of the issues raised can be fixed. Cheers Kbthompson (talk) 22:34, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Me too. I don't have a problem on waiting on this. While issues are being resolved, more people can comment here. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 00:41, 27 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Update: I believe that I am done with the list. The lead still needs some work, but I think I will be able to work on it in the next 24 hours. If there are any issues that still need to be addressed (other than in the lead), please let me know. Thanks. Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 01:44, 30 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Still a little ways to go until it matches current skyscraper FL standards for me. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 06:09, 1 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I have not worked on the lead very much. If you are referring to the lists, can you please explain so I can improve it. Thanks. Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 22:09, 3 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Sure. At List of tallest buildings in Atlanta and every other building list this year, the first table has the following columns:
Rank, name, Height (ft / m), Floors, Year, Notes. This one should do the same, except keeping height (m / ft). The usage could be shifted to Notes or left out completely.
I have changed the table so that it follows this format. Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 22:58, 5 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
==Under construction==, ==Approved== and ==Proposed== in the Atlanta list has Name, Height, Floors, Year, Notes
I have changed these tables so that they follow this format. Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 22:58, 5 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
==Timeline of tallest building== in the Atlanta list has Name, Street address, Years as tallest, Height, Floors, reference
I have changed the table so that it follows this format, with one exception. Instead of using "street address", I am using "location." Some structures do not have addresses listed and (as an American) I do not understand the UK address system. If "location" is too broad/vague, please let me know and I will see what else I can do. Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 22:58, 5 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Also, none of the table headings are shaded #BDBBD7, #000080 font colours, or striped rows for the entries. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 09:25, 5 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I do not see anything wrong with having a colored table. It adds aesthetics to the list and simply makes it look nicer. Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 22:58, 5 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
But looking pretty is rather subjective. No other FLC for tallest buildings has ever said "Make the rows stripey because it looks nicer", and I would have thought that current consensus is to not do this, otherwise there'd be plenty of people asking for it. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 01:03, 6 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
But, WikiProject Skyscrapers has only worked on lists for the tallest buildings in the United States. It is common for UK lists to have coloring. See List of tallest buildings and structures in Manchester, List of tallest buildings and structures in Salford and List of tallest buildings and structures in Croydon. Also several European lists use this format: List of tallest buildings and structures in the Paris region and List of tallest buildings in Europe. As for consensus, there is none to include colors and there is no consensus to exclude the colors as it has never been discussed. Raime, whom I consider to be the head of WikiProject Skyscrapers, even commented on the coloring during the FLC for the Manchester list. See this. --Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 02:54, 6 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
OK then. You made a convincing argument for it. I'd still like to see a reference for "award-winning 30 St Mary Axe." Perhaps it could mention what award it won? Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 06:51, 6 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
So, I assume that the lists themselves are okay. Right? Now I will begin to work more on the lead. Please let me know if I am taking too long to bring this back to featured quality. Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 21:55, 6 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, the lists are fine now. I shouldn't imagine there is that much more to be done to the article, so hopefully this FLRC can be closed soon, although I won't do it because I've commented too much here. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 01:44, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Well, thank you for all your help! Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 02:47, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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