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The list was not promoted by Dabomb87 22:35, 25 May 2010 [1].

List of awards and nominations received by T.I.[edit]

List of awards and nominations received by T.I. (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

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Nominator(s): WikiGuy86 (talk) & Georgia Peachez (talk) 17:17, 3 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because Georgia Peachez has put a lot of work into the article which seems to now be up to FL standards as it closely resembles other lists of its kind which are currently considered FL class. All feedback is appreciated. WikiGuy86 (talk) 17:17, 3 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 19:44, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - on the first two or three paragraphs.
  • Hopefully you'll make sure that Georgia Bird is added as a co-nom since he's made such a contribution to the list?
  • Did you link T.I. at any point in the opening sentence or two?
  • Caption in the infobox needs no period.
  • I'd link Grammy Award.
  • " He was discovered and signed when he was a teenager by record executive..." nope. He wasn't "discovered ... when he was a teenager", at least not in a encyclopedia.
  • Please check the manual of style for use of apostrophes etc for 'songs' etc.
  • "In 2003, he won his first award for 'Best Collaboration' for "Never Scared" at the Source Awards, in 2004, he has received 2 wins out of a total of 6 nominations, including 'Best Street Anthem' for "Rubberband Man" at the Vibe Awards, and in 2005, he received a total of 1 win of 13 nominations, including 'Best Street Anthem' for "U Don't Know Me" for the second year in a row at the Vibe awards." is one sentence and is grammatically out of sorts. It also needs to consider the MOS with "2 wins .."->"two wins ..."
  • Make sure you follow WP:MOSNUM so that most of your instances of numbers below 10 should be written in text.

The Rambling Man (talk) 20:00, 3 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thanks for the input. I tried to follow your guidelines to fix some of the problems with the lead section, although I personally think it might run a little long myself. Hope this works better. WikiGuy86 (talk) 07:20, 4 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge that opening one-liner into the main lead.
  • Surely he won a collaboration award "with" not "for"?
  • "..T.I.'s first award." perhaps start the sentence with "He won his first award..."
  • "two wins out of six nominations" two wins from six noms
  • "one win out of 13 total nominations" -> one award from 13 nominations.
  • Don't like the repetition of the opening sentence for each para "In 200x, T.I. won..."
  • No need for phrases like "a total of"
  • "T.I. has won 2 awards" -> two awards.
  • Check other numbers below 10.
  • Say what BET is before just using the abbreviation.
  • Tables should be in chronological order.

That's enough to be going on with. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:19, 5 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Fixed all noted problems. Hopefully lead section is less repetitive and more fluid now. WikiGuy86 (talk) 19:06, 5 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Go back and check "2 awards->two awards" throughout. Check WP:MOSNUM for further details.
  • And check "wins out of x noms" vs "wins from x noms" throughout.

The Rambling Man (talk)


Support Oppose. References are not formated properly. Each reference should have title, author, publisher and date of publication and other fields if appropriate. Currently many of them are just bare web links. Ruslik_Zero 15:50, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • I don't know why I hadn't done that already. I noticed they weren't all done but thought I could get away with it. LOL, so much for that. Fixed. WikiGuy86 (talk) 05:55, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Can you also change all spaced hyphens to spaced endashes (or unspaced mdashes if you prefer) in the reflist? Ruslik_Zero 19:40, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oh, come on, that's too much! Just kidding. Done. WikiGuy86 (talk) 22:01, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  1. He won his first two Grammys at the 49th Annual Grammy Awards The year should be specified here.
  2. In 2008, T.I. received 11 nominations and in 2009 he received 11 wins from 31 nominations How many wins did he received in 2008?

Ruslik_Zero 17:22, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comments
  • I don't see the necessity to link artist in 'hip hop artist' in the first sentence, or is their a reason?
  • "his second win in a row " --> "his second consecutive win"
  • "In 2005, he received one award from 13 nominations, his second win in a row for Best Street Anthem, this time for the song "U Don't Know Me" at the Vibe Awards." -> "In 2005, he received one award from 13 nominations, that being his second consecutive Best Street Anthem award, this time for the song "U Don't Know Me"."
  • "T.I. earned his first Grammy nomination for Best Rap Solo Performance for "U Don't Know Me" at the 48th Annual Grammy Awards. He received 15 wins from 37 nominations in 2006," - the latter sentence should be first, since it explains his overall nominations for the year in which the 48th Grammy's took place.
  • The lead seems really biased towards the Grammys: yes they are one of the supreme awarding bodies, but they shouldn't be treated as if they outline his career. Ie. stating them first before the other ones.
  • "second year straight" - needs rewording.
  • "Currently" --> "Overall"
  • Is there a way to collapse the infobox, mainly the awards?
  • "T.I. has won two awards from his eight nominations." -- no need for "his" [for all others as well]
  • Is there a way to state "T.I." as "self"? or something related? In addition, no need to link his name when this article is about him.
  • "The Billboard Music Awards are sponsored by Billboard magazine and is held annually in December." link to the magazine
  • "He won every rap award possible at the 2006 Billboard awards" (reword that sentence to <-- that)
  • Link to About.com and MTV in the publishers.--Truco 503 22:44, 23 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose – Several sections of awards and nominations lack references (MTV Japan, Spike Guys' Choice Awards, and the last two). Also, what makes the following reliable sources?

One things most of these have in common is that they are being used to cite awards and nominations. Again, why are official award websites not being used for these? If they don't have information on past awards, why not try to find the information on sites of better reliability? Sorry, but I don't believe this will be ready for FL until these sourcing issues are addressed. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 23:24, 23 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]


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