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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was not promoted by The Rambling Man 17:34, 8 February 2013 [1].

Armenian population by country[edit]

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Nominator(s): Երևանցի talk 03:42, 27 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because I believe this article is interesting enough to be featured on the main page. Երևանցի talk 03:42, 27 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment why isn't this included at Armenian diaspora? This list is a clear violation of the 3b criterion for featured lists as far as I can tell. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:11, 27 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I thought it would be better to have a separate list. The term 'Armenian diaspora' usually doesn't include Armenia and Nagorno-Karabakh Republic. Let's see. The Armenian diaspora article can also cover the institutions, the cultural centers, churches, athletic organizations, political parties, etc. operating outside of Armenia (I will be working on that article in future) and adding this huge list there wouldn't be that smart. This is my personal opinion.--Երևանցի talk 19:32, 27 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comments by Arsenikk
  • The lead needs a lot of work and should be much more extensive. It should introduced the topic and give a summary of the list. Take a look at recently passed FLs to examine the expected scope.
doing
  • The language needs tweaking. Words and terms such as "today", "large", "notice that" are not encyclopedic.
done
  • The table needs to conform with WP:ACCESS and WP:DTT. This includes a caption and col/row-spans.
What particularly should be done there?
If you haven't done so yet please read the sections "Overview of basics" and "Correct table captions" at WP:DTT. You will find your list both does not use spans nor has a caption. Arsenikk (talk) 22:28, 31 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
done by User:Bill william compton
  • The table should be in its own section. It should have a brief technical summary which explains any part of the table which is not obvious. For instance, what is the defining aspect of an official data compared to an estimation. Do they vary because of lacking statistic information, or because of differences in defining an Armenian?
done
  • I have problems sorting the "source" and "estimates" columns correctly.
Let's say for the estimations column of the Armenians in the United States, which number should I chose for sorting? It ranges from 800,000 to 1,500,000.
You'll just have to pick one: the lowest, median or highest. At the moment it seems that that column sorts almost at random. You can use the template {{nts}} to help create sortable content. Also make sure the total row doesn't sort (this can be accomplished by using the syntax |-class="sortbottom", see Help:Sorting). Arsenikk (talk) 17:50, 3 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Why does the rank column list counties in a different order than the population?
See above.
  • Remove see also links since they are in a navbox.
done
  • Don't SHOUT in references.
done

Interesting idea for a list. However, there is a lot of work before it would be featured. I am close to opposing because of the lead, but I would much rather see it improved. Arsenikk (talk) 23:00, 30 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

To issues regarding the review page: could you please not use icons, as it slows down the load time of the entire FLC page. Secondly, remember to sign any responses so that it is easy to keep track of both who writes what and when it was written. Arsenikk (talk) 17:50, 3 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Interesting article, but the table needs a total column (with official, lower, and upper estimates) and a much more detailed lead. Nergaal (talk) 19:10, 1 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Closing note: This candidate has been withdrawn, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FLC/ar, and leave the {{featured list candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through.
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