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All over the world, graduates of any one of the seven elite IIT campuses are among the most successful and highly regarded professionals in their chosen career, and have greatly contributed to the current impression of India: that the most valuable products the world can import from India are "really smart people". —This unsigned comment was added by A i s h2000 (talk • contribs) .

  • Pictures of one or more of the campuses would be nice. Raul654 05:14, 24 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Also, I folded the motto/logo and data table together. However, the mottos are incomplete - for some schools, it has only the english; for one, it has only (what I presume is) Hindi; and for two it has none. It would be nice if this section were filled out completely. Raul654 06:22, 24 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Strong object based on following reasons:
  1. List format for inter sports is silly.
  2. You have fact checks that need to be adressed.
  3. You really need more references
  4. I find it curious that you jump from history to admissions to reservation to alumni. Sure feels like you are missing out on probably the most important part - curriculum, faculty, student life, etc.
  5. I am sure their are some criticisms of IIT. What about how IIT is generally weak in its graduate programs? Lack of serious criticisms, especially with the excessive praise, makes this a big POV.
  6. Ahh too many things missing. If you address the things I have raised till now, I will look for more. This really seems like it should be up for review and not nomination.(Blacksun 05:56, 24 March 2006 (UTC))[reply]
Oppose for now. The article needs a thorough copyedit and a rephrasing of several sentences:
There are at least six single-sentence paragraphs, and several other short paragraphs making the text look untidy.
The sentence "In modern age no other institution in India has had such an immense influence on Indian mind, as does IIT." needs rephrasing and a source to show that the influence is indeed immense.
The citations should follow a single format. There is one citation listed at the bottom, and two linked within the text.
There are several quotations of people talking about IIT's but no exact sources are indicated. How is anyone to know whether these comments are accurate?
The entire section on Reservations needs to be rewritten as two or three concise paragraphs.
There is section on Notable alumni which could do with a couple of sentences at least about some of the notable alumni.
The table comparing the several IIT's should have one column eliminated - keep either the Name column or the Location column because it is simply repeating the names (e.g. IIT Calcutta is obviously in or around Calcutta)
Also, the discussion page suggests a peer review was requested but it is a redlink. Did the peer review take place? Green Giant 06:03, 24 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Object: There appears to be no flow to the article; there's a whole host of dangling 1-2 sentence paragraphs. There seems to be a distinct lack of references and citiations — I'm guessing that's because this is currently a pretty low-on-content article. In the "a range of views exist" part — I don't really see a "range" per se, all I see is a series of quotes that portray the ITTs in positive light. Please move this article to WP:PR. The problems with this article are to many to summarize here. AreJay 14:48, 24 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Object -- Needs to go to peer review. History short, no pictures (I can source one on IITB), POV, no inline refs, choppy prose, map seems to have a suspect licence, nothing on courses, Mood Indigo, later sections contain mostly trivia. =Nichalp «Talk»= 15:29, 24 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Object --Needs copyediting. Several red links need to be taken care of. --Andy123(talk) 17:48, 26 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • In modern age no other institution in India has had such an immense influence on Indian mind, as does IIT. Echhh...ever hear of neutral? Osbus 02:26, 27 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think we need to close this FA review. The article is yet to get a Peer Review, that I started yesterday. It will be atleast a month before we should think of it as a FA candidate. -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 04:31, 27 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Responses to the objections:
    • A i s h2000: She has given a very non-neutral comment.
    • Raul654: A lot of pictures have been added. The mottos aren't incomplete as I have checked from their respective websites that IIT Delhi and IIT Roorkee don't have a motto. IIT Guwahati's motto is in English only, so nothing can be done about it. A few missing info in the table has been added. However I admit that student details in IIT Roorkee is missing.
    • Blacksun: List format has been fixed. A lot of references have been added. Scope exists for more. I have started Peer Review to speed up this process. Wherever fact check is necessary (based on the exactness of our knowledge), the parts have been never added or removed if present. If you find any more suspected candidates need for fact check, do mention them. Sections on Academics has been added. Will be adding student life soon. Actually I didn't add it as it was objected and removed from one of the IIT's Article (IIT Kharagpur's), and the cleanup required moving it to Student Life in IIT Kharagpur. A lot of criticisms have been added. Please have a look at them for POVs. Over the past few days I have myself made 50 edits to the page, so many possible missing things are now available.
    • Green Giant: POV sentence has been removed. There are different columns for IIT Name and Location as the names of cities have changed, but the name of IITs haven't. For example IIT Bombay and IIT Madras. There is no IIT Calcutta. I have added citations wherever there are relevant sentences. I am still not sure what consistancy is been talked about, so I encourage you to be bold and show me/us the correct way. The quotations have been moved out of the page to Wikiquote (see external links). I will improve them as soon as possible. The section on notable alumni has been made subsection of Alumni with a paragraph and picture added.
    • AreJay: Quotes have been moved out of the page to Wikiquote(see external links). I know there are too many problems, that's why I suggested Peer Review. FA review shouldn't have started so early.
    • Nichalp: Even I support peer review first. A lot of photographs have been added. Anyone is free to add more. Map has been replaced by a self made one. Most of the trivia was about IITs in the Media, and hence have been clubbed under that.
    • Andy123: I understand that it need copy editing. That's why I suggested Peer Review first. FA review was started by anonymous IP. I need volunteers for removing red-links as most of them are about people/books I have no clue about.
    • Osbus: POV removed.
Please remember that this response in no way endorses my willingness to go ahead with FA review. A Peer Review is utmost necessary for giong ahead with FA review. -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 05:08, 27 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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