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Airbus A380

This article has gradually and consistantly improving, and is now comprehensive and well written. All facts are referenced and every image used is free use from Commons. This article has had a peer review, and the only faults, style inconsistencies, have been fixed. I now believe it is interesting, comprehensive and stable enough to become an FA. smurrayinchester^{(User), (Talk)} 10:05, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

• Object – 1. Choppy prose and long winding sentences that call for a copyedit. eg: The unconfirmed story brought outrage and embarrassed the European Trade Commissioner. 2. Too many subsections. Needs to be reduced. 3. Why is =History= lower down the order? 3. Medellín, Colombia --> Medellin in Colombia; Iqaluit, Nunavut --> Iqaluit, Nunavut in Canada. =Nichalp «Talk»= 13:18, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
  • I've tried to address your objections; are there any other issues which could do with fixing? smurrayinchester^{(User), (Talk)} 13:54, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

    It needs a copyedit. There are too many winding sentences eg the lead contains: However, the Antonov An-225 retains the record of being the world's largest commercial aircraft, although its passenger capacity is only about 80, and only one flying aircraft currently exists. Why describe another plane in the lead? 2. Both knew the risk of splitting a niche market; unspoken consensus (tacit understanding?) 3. two versions or two models? 4. Convert the comma to in: Toulouse, France; Bangalore, India to Toulouse in France etc. 4. Official list price stands at US$ 295 million per unit. Carriers often receive large discounts for volume or early purchases. Official list price? --> As of [date], each plane costs [cost]. (bulk bookings are valid for all products, not only planes -- implied) 6. The Wall Street Journal needs to be italicised. =Nichalp «Talk»= 14:31, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

• Object. Lead must be longer, the lead must summarize the entire article in 2-3 paragraphs for an article of this length. — Wackymacs 15:42, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
• Object as per Nichalp and Wackymacs. I took a little look at random sentences throughout, and found things such as: "the microprocessors produced by TTTech for the A380 is severely flawed". There's inconsistency in terminology, e.g., "Qantas" and then shortly after, "Qantas Airways". Some assertions require referencing, e.g., "Airbus expects that this requirement will be waived prior to the entry of the A380 into service."—says who? Tony 15:46, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
  • I've tried to address all your concerns at once; I've fixed all the grammar and terminology errors you've pointed out, and similar ones, and it now has a slightly better lead. I couldn't find any reference for the "Airbus expects these requirements to be waived". Plus, it does seem like a rather flippiant attitude for a major aircraft company, so I've removed it without citation. smurrayinchester^{(User), (Talk)} 18:03, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
• Object Article has short lead-section. Anonymous_Anonymous 12:58, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Neutral leaning to Support article is a little unstable. ( Target of vandalism ) Anonymous_Anonymous 13:00, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
• Support Comprehensive article, good visuals. M.K. 15:34, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
• Support Very informative, relies on texts not websites as reference, inline citations, very nice pictures, very nice structural composition, just plainly amazing. (Wikimachine 01:26, 16 June 2006 (UTC))
• Support Quite informative and filled with lots of detail. Lots of nicely detailed pictures with alot of good links.- Anonymous —Preceding unsigned comment added by A380 Fan (talk • contribs)
• Further comment—We shouldn't be able to find substandard prose by now, but it's easy. My eyes first fell on:

"Airbus operates 16 manufacturing sites all in Europe except for some wing component manufacture by IPTN, an Indonesian aircraft manufacturer. The European manufacturer will produce most of parts for the new A380 airliner.

First, the front and rear sections of the fuselage are loaded on ..."

• • At least one, and probably two commas required in the first sentence. I'd like more precision: do you mean that 15 are in Europe and one in Indonesia? What do you mean by "some"? A FA might pride itself on giving our readers up-to-date, high-quality information, rather than just "most of parts". Do you mean "the parts"? Then a new paragraph launches into the subject of the stages of the construction process, without orienting our poor readers to this theme.

Not good enough. Is the rest of it better? Tony 07:35, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

I've removed that paragraph; I think it must be a recent addition, and it is rather confusing. smurrayinchester^{(User), (Talk)} 08:01, 18 June 2006 (UTC)