User talk:Zorba1968

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re: Baraboo High School[edit]

No one's interest is served by starting multiple threads on the same subject, either on the article talk page or on user talk pages. Again, I'm telling you I've violated no policies anywhere on this topic. Please focus on the content, and confine your comments to one thread (this is only one subject after all) on the article talk page. If you have a problem with my behavior, by all means take that to the appropriate forum. The article talk page is not that. Focus on the edits please. There is no need for you to post on my talk page any further, except as required by policy. Thank you. John from Idegon (talk) 04:22, 14 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

"No one's interest is served by starting multiple threads on the same subject, either on the article talk page or on user talk pages." -- So then you remove a discussion off your page and bring it here? Rather impolite. But since I'm for open debate instead of deleting other people's contributions like you do, I'll simply respond to you here:

I disagree that you didn't violate any policies and it looks like I'm not the only one, John. You were the one who single-handedly removed, without initiating proper talk discussion let alone look for consensus, the contributions from several other users trying to improve the page. You added nothing in return. Worse, right after that, you asked an administrator for full protection of the page with a false argument that others were adding "completely off topic content" —which is factually untrue. By doing so, you have de facto censored the page. Also, you have in fact expressed political opinions on this subject by arguing about the legality of school boys bringing a Nazi-salute, by bringing up the Constitution and personally interpreting it, and pretending that this supposed legality makes the Nazi salute section irrelevant, and arguing that the incident would be irrelevant to the school. Which news reports also prove to be factually untrue. You also expressed a political view by calling 50 schoolboys doing a Nazi salute for a prom photo "a little thing" and "In the bigger picture, this is trivial", which runs contrary to international news reports and responses from organizations and authorities and to several other editors of the page. Your one-sided actions prevent proper application of the Wikipedia policies and guidelines as I and several others have pointed out to you. Please try and be cooperative instead of authoritarian.

As another user called it, "bit disappointed about the undiscussed complete deletion of a section that multiple editors have been working and discussing on to ensure verifiability and understandability of the material. " and "sledgehammer approach". That should give you a clue about how your reckless editing behaviour is unhelpful to Wikipedia as a whole. So far you've also dodged the debate with the person most involved with the edits you single-handedly reverted without proper discussion. You also gave misleading information to an administrator about "completely off-topic content". You have ignored evidence presented to you that go directly against many of your (initial) arguments. Your own actions are the reason why the debate about content is centering on your behaviour: you effectively single-handedly censored the content.

It's also worth noting that so far, nobody on the talk page seems to support your actions. Zorba1968 (talk) 05:09, 14 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]