User talk:ZHoover123

October 2009[edit]

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to make constructive contributions to Wikipedia, at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport, did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and read the welcome page to learn more about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Snoozlepet (talk) 04:51, 6 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, you will be blocked from editing. Removing edit warnings is clearly not an acceptable action so you need a stronger warning. Vegaswikian (talk) 05:00, 6 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent edits[edit]

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Please do not add unsourced or original content, as you did to Tucson International Airport. Doing so violates Wikipedia's verifiability policy. If you continue to do so, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. 5 albert square (talk) 01:57, 9 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

FL MKE-PHX[edit]

Please stop adding a start date to Airtran's seasonal MKE-PHX service. Seasonal flights do not need a start date.

I'm aware but the seasonal servce was stopped. It resumes all together on November 19.

--24.131.140.72 (talk) 18:31, 10 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No it did not stop. It operated during the winter last year like it will this year. There were never any plans to stop operating the flight. It may have just been loaded late.

--24.131.140.72 (talk) 05:36, 11 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I apologize --ZH 21:19, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

B6 at BOS[edit]

I reverted your edit at BOS for two reasons. First, officially JetBlue says they do not have any hubs much like Southwest. They have focus cities. While I believe airports like JFK for B6 are basically hubs, if B6 does not call them hubs, then it makes no sense to officially call them a hub. Second, in the case of BOS, even though it's a big airport for B6, it's doubtful there's much connecting going on because of BOS's location in the corner of the country. So overall, there is no reason or proof that BOS is a hub for B6. If you have any arguments for why BOS is a hub for B6, please write them on my talk page.

--24.131.140.72 (talk) 06:21, 8 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

UAX SEA-DEN[edit]

Could you show me the date you are looking at where UAX flies SEA-DEN? I don't see any flights. I know UAX flies DEN-SEA but it does not fly SEA-DEN. Also if UAX does fly SEA-DEN, it does not make sense to make it seasonal as UAX has never flown SEA-DEN. It would need a start date.

--24.131.140.72 (talk) 22:43, 9 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Seattle-Tacoma International Airport. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period. Additionally, users who perform several reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. When in dispute with another editor you should first try to discuss controversial changes to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. Should that prove unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. Please stop the disruption, otherwise you may be blocked from editing. HkCaGu (talk) 19:49, 10 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages by deliberately introducing incorrect information, as you did to Seattle-Tacoma International Airport, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. HkCaGu (talk) 20:09, 11 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This is the last warning you will receive for your disruptive edits. The next time you disrupt Wikipedia, as you did to Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport, you will be blocked from editing. It takes no time at all to verify it's Aeromexico not AeroMexico. You are making too many mistakes and costing too many people too much time checking your edits. If you don't stop this pattern, you'll have to be blocked! HkCaGu (talk) 19:21, 15 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

And also, UA only has departures out the North Satelitte at SEA, the airline only uses the South Satelitte Terminal to process customs and immigration for its international flights. Hence, there is already a note indicating that international arrivals are handled in the South Satelitte Terminal. Snoozlepet (talk) 07:10, 16 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure if you were aware of this, but AirTran's SEA flights actually depart from Concourse A, not the South Satellite as the airport's website suggests. If you take a look at the flight data or have actually flown from Concourse A, as I do every now and then, you will notice that AirTran's flights use gate A14. Logistically, this would make sense, as both Delta and Sun Country moved to the South Satellite from Concourse A. Just wanted to let you know, since there has already been a heated discussion on this very issue and I feel like I've provided more than enough evidence to prove that the airport's website is wrong. Thanks. Wickedlyperfect18 (talk) 04:14, 17 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there! I saw that you mentioned that you had arrived on an AirTran flight that used one of Delta/NW's gates in the South Satellite... may I ask when you took this particular flight? Thanks again! Wickedlyperfect18 (talk) 06:14, 18 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry I haven't checked "my talk" in a while. The AirTran Airways flight arrived from Milwaukee. It was about the end of June/beginning of July 2009. ATController 03:30, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Welcome![edit]

Welcome to Wikipedia, ZHoover123! I am Airplaneman and have been editing Wikipedia for quite some time. I just wanted to say hi and welcome you to Wikipedia! If you have any questions, feel free to leave me a message on my talk page or by typing {{helpme}} at the bottom of this page. I love to help new users, so don't be afraid to leave a message! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Oh yeah, I almost forgot, when you post on talk pages you should sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); that should automatically produce your username and the date after your post. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and ask your question there. Again, welcome!

Airplaneman ^talk 01:46, 18 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It appears to me that you're not fully proficient in basic skills of editing Wikipedia by (1) reading others' edit summary, (2) reading your talk page, (3) using talk pages and signing appropriately. As a result you appear to be engaging in disruptive behavior. Please see the help links above this message. Otherwise you'll have to be reported. HkCaGu (talk) 20:57, 20 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oooh, those look like those Midwest Express cookies!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by B767-500 (talk • contribs) 06:57, 20 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Aeroméxico[edit]

This is the last warning you will receive for your disruptive edits. The next time you disrupt Wikipedia, as you did to Aeroméxico, you will be blocked from editing. How many times do you have to be told it is not AeroMéxico? HkCaGu (talk) 17:26, 22 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have NEVER been told it wasn't AeroMéxico! So thanks for your smart ass attitude! ATController 03:30, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Linking of Airline Names[edit]

There is a discussion started at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Airports#Linking_of_airline_names. You may add your thoughts to that page. Thanks! Snoozlepet (talk) 07:11, 24 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

US Airways Cargo[edit]

US Airways should not be listed as a cargo operation at PHX because they do not have dedicated cargo operations. If we are going to list airlines that carry cargo in PHX we'd have to list ALL the airlines because they all do. It only makes sense to list airlines who only carry cargo or have dedicated cargo operations. Thanks

--Dklep7 (talk) 20:41, 26 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent edits[edit]

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That's what I do but afterwards it automatically proceeds unsigned? I don't know why. ATController 03:34, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Air Nippon Cargo @ PHX[edit]

Unless you have a source, Air Nippon Cargo has never served PHX in the past nor it does not plan to in the near future. Regards! Snoozlepet (talk) 06:15, 13 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hawaiian SEA-OGG + PDX-OGG[edit]

You stated that Hawaiian's flights from Seattle and Portland to Kahului, Maui are seasonal and, as a source, you cited the Hawaiian Airlines route map. I've looked at this route map and the page twice over, and there is no mention of seasonal routes, let alone the word "seasonal" in the page or in the code that makes up the page. I presume that you assumed that the thinner pink lines originating from Kahului represented "seasonal" routes, as I can find no source to suggest any other possible explanation.

While OAK-OGG (not on map yet) and SAN-OGG are indeed seasonal (see - [1]), by your assumption, every flight originating from OGG is seasonal, even the interisland flights, which are definitely not seasonal. I didn't see you or any other editors editing the wiki pages for the Lihue, Honolulu, or Kona airport pages to say that flights from OGG to those airports are seasonal too, which isn't consistent according to what I presume is your logic regarding the OGG routes. Try booking SEA and PDX to OGG on Hawaiian's website - you'll see that there is one nonstop flight every day for the forseeable future. However, that's beside the point. Unless you can find a recent source that states that HA 29/30 (SEA-OGG) and HA 39/40 (PDX-OGG) that states that these flights are indeed seasonal (in writing, I should add), then may I suggest not adding the seasonal designation? Thanks! Wickedlyperfect18 (talk) 09:01, 20 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Portland International Airport[edit]

You appear to be in an edit war over minor details in Portland International Airport. Please discuss and seek consensus on the talk page before editing again. —EncMstr (talk) 20:00, 20 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

F9 at MKE[edit]

Go to Frontiers website and buy a ticket PHX-MKE. I understand what you're saying but the reason it was listed as Midwest operated by Frontier was because the flights did not have a Frontier flight number. Now they do, so it is a regular Frontier Airlines flight.

--Dklep7 (talk) 22:43, 22 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, I see what you're saying now. ATController 22:54, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Edit war block[edit]

You have been blocked from editing for a short time for your disruption caused by edit warring and violation of the three-revert rule at 24 hours. During a dispute, you should first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus. If that proves unsuccessful you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. If you believe this block is unjustified, you may contest the block by adding the text {{unblock|Your reason here}} below, but you should read our guide to appealing blocks first.

December 2009[edit]

Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages by deliberately introducing incorrect information, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. HkCaGu (talk) 03:43, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It was agreed a while ago that we will not add minor subsidiaries/regional carriers etc to the hub list in airport articles. It was also agreed that hubs, bases and focus cities mean different things, and the entries must accurately reflect what an airport served as for each airline. I see you have been adding hub information to several articles, with each addition being reverted by a number of editors. Please familiarise yourself with the project guidelines before continuing to make similar edits. Thanks, Jasepl (talk) 05:10, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This is the last warning you will receive for your disruptive edits. The next time you disrupt Wikipedia, as you did to Los Angeles International Airport, you will be blocked from editing. Are you making me count the number of times again? You've been told last night a focus city is not a hub, and we don't list regionals or subsidiary. When will you learn? HkCaGu (talk) 02:15, 30 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Three people have explained it five times why Mesa should not be listed in PHX. Twice here and three times in PHX's edit summaries. Please stop! HkCaGu (talk) 03:07, 30 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In every article and even talk page, there is a tab called "history". Click on it and you'll see a lot more information. HkCaGu (talk) 03:29, 30 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you ATController 03:48, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

How is it to clean up something when you turn an official name (corrrect) into a name format of your liking (incorrect)? And adding focus cities as hubs? You have done too many edits without observing how people react and how they explain the community consensus and reasoning. After more than one instances of someone reverting your AeroMexico you still did it again. You need to learn to read the edit summaries and read your talk page. You need to learn the project standards and why things are what they are, and in time you'll better distinguish which are overlooked mistakes and which ones aren't, and be able to contribute constructively. And please learn to sign by using four "~"s. HkCaGu (talk) 15:28, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Your recent edits[edit]

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PHX accidents page.[edit]

ZHoover, please stop reverting my edits to your sentences. I am not trying to be annoying but the sentence makes more sense the way I had it written. You had already written about how the plane had to turn around and land back in PHX. It doesn't need to be mentioned twice. Also if there were no injuries, obviously there were no fatalities. Please read the edit summaries as well so people don't have to write on your talk page every time you revert an edit.

--Dklep7 (talk) 23:38, 3 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If the plane had ended up crashing, obviously more would have been written and there would have been injuries. I don't think a crash could be considered a landing either. It would say it attempted to land but then crashed.

--Dklep7 (talk) 01:39, 4 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

C'mon ZHoover. You have been engaged in two edit wars at Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport. Both were over silly stuff. Stop reverting and use the talk page. Cptnono (talk) 02:51, 5 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe I jumped to conclusions from the history page and the stuff up above. There is a whole lot of reverting going on and I shouldn't be assigning blame. That much back and forth is a huge red flag so watch out for it.Cptnono (talk) 06:01, 5 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent edits[edit]

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Phoenix Airport[edit]

Please stop adding the same information to this article, despite repeated removal by a number of other users. The reasons have been explained several times and failure to stop may result in yet another ban. Thanks, Jasepl (talk) 04:10, 11 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I am moving your comment from my talk page since it is a response to a discussion that was started here. That's the logical way of using talk pages.

SorryATController 04:23, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

I worked very hard on getting those gate assignments correct and you just go and delete them. The least you can do is let me post correct information. I live in Phoenix, and travel through Sky Harbor quite frequently, I think I would know. ATController 04:13, 11 January 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by ZHoover123 (talk • contribs)

No one has said anything about the gate assignments or whatever it is that you keep adding. They haven't been declared false (or true). The issue is with the validity of your edits, and their noteworthiness. And it would help if you left an edit summary or an explanation, instead of embarking on one edit-warring rampage after another. It would also help if you decide which user you are. Jasepl (talk) 04:20, 11 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well I put it back to the way I had it with 2 sources for each terminal. Can we please leave?ATController 04:24, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

This is the last warning you will receive for your disruptive edits, such as those you made to Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport. If you vandalize Wikipedia again, you will be blocked from editing. You've been blocked for violating 3RR before. You've been informed to use edit summaries. If you don't even bother to understand why others revert your edits and insists on your version, it is simply disruptive and vandalism. HkCaGu (talk) 11:31, 11 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to Wikipedia. However, please know that editors do not own articles and should respect the work of their fellow contributors. If you create or edit an article, know that others are free to change its content. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. HkCaGu (talk) 11:31, 11 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

January 2010[edit]

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 3 days for repeated abuse of editing privileges. Please stop. You are welcome to make useful contributions after the block expires. If you believe this block is unjustified you may contest this block by adding the text {{unblock|Your reason here}} below. —EncMstr (talk) 20:15, 11 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

ZHoover123 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

This is stpuid! You dumb ass webmasters think you can just do everything your way! I used edit summaries AND had TWO sources of information for each of Sky Harbor's Terminals and you guys just go and delete them and block me from editing?! GET A FRICKEN LIFE AND STOP CONTROLLING OTHER PEOPLE!!!

Decline reason:

We do not unblock people making personal attacks. Calm down and act rational, please. —Jeremy ^{(v^_^v Boribori!)} 05:44, 12 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

ATController 00:52, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

ZHoover123 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

You're telling me to calm down and act rational? Take a look at my talk page and read some of the stuff HkCaGu has said to me. ATController 13:07, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

Decline reason:

I am declining your request for unblock because it does not address the reason for your block, or because it is inadequate for other reasons. To be unblocked, you must convince the reviewing administrator(s) that

the block is not necessary to prevent damage or disruption to Wikipedia, or
the block is no longer necessary because you
- understand what you have been blocked for,
- will not continue to cause damage or disruption, and
- will make useful contributions instead.

Please read our guide to appealing blocks for more information. Sandstein 20:07, 12 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

Stop tlx'ing your unblock requests. Also, if one acts like a complete asshole to you, that does not give you a right to act the same way. An eye for an eye and the world goes blind. —Jeremy ^{(v^_^v Boribori!)} 19:51, 12 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ok then what am I supposed to do? Just sit here and let people talk to me like that? And For the decline my uncblock request above, how does it not prove anything to the administrators when I had TWO sources of information for EACH terminal!? ATController 00:37, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

We have fora upon fora upon fora where one can bring up an editor's misbehavior. Also, arguing to content does not help you get unblocked; you need to make arguments to the effect that you understand why you were blocked and that it *should* not happen again (in practice, especially when things get heated, it often does). —Jeremy ^{(v^_^v Boribori!)} 04:19, 13 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not trying to start a fight...if you were on my end of the stick, you would be doing the same thing. I'm aware arguing isn't going to get me anywhere, however it is frustrating when I post something with sources, then someone else goes and deletes it and posts something completely different with no sources what-so-ever. Maybe if whoever it was had cited more than one source, we wouldn't have had to start an argument.ATController 04:33, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

ZHoover123: You are blocked for general disruption. These include:

Your signature does not link to your user page or talk page. See WP:SIG.
You edits to Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport were repeatedly reverted and you did not engage in discussion to resolve this. See WP:BRD.
Of your last 250 edits, only 3 have an edit summary. See WP:EDITSUMMARY.
You have many recent edits to other articles which do not have consensus. For example:

Continental Airlines: Your eight consecutive edits were reverted with Undid edits by ZHoover123...I have no clue where you got those numbers from because the source listed does not have those numbers
General Mitchell International Airport: three of your older edits were reverted Charters shouldn't be listed with scheduled service. Tons of airlines do charters. For example, AirTran has been flying MKE-ZIH/PUJ/CUN/PVR this winter as charters.
Seattle-Tacoma International Airport: Your January 1 edit was mostly undone with F9/YX does not fly SEA-MKE

While everyone gets reverted from time to time, especially as a new editor, there comes a time to ask questions and seek guidance. Wikipedia thrives on collaboration. By each of us contributing a little, it inspires and encourages other editors to expand, clarify, and polish our contributions. However, revert after revert is unproductive, annoying, and discouraging. Worse, conflicts and poor attitude discourage valuable volunteers from continuing to contribute.

You have approximately a day and a half remaining until your block expires. While that is in place, I recommend you read Wikipedia's core principles and the major topics linked there. Once your editing aligns with the project's goals, you'll find that other editors will defend your edits—and build on them.

When you are able to edit again—if you still feel you were treated unfairly—you can report me for inappropriate administrative actions at WP:ANI. —EncMstr (talk) 08:07, 13 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not going to report you. If anything, you've done nothing but help me, even though it may not seem like that. I'll be sure to change my signature so it links to my user page and so on and so forth.ZHoover123 (talk) 01:19, 14 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Aeromexico PHX-GDL[edit]

Your source is wrong because Aeromexico does not fly PHX-GDL anymore. They used to but they do not any longer. Almost all the route maps on that site are old. The best reliable place to check flights is the airline websites themselves and you will find on Aeromexico's site that they no longer fly from Phoenix to Guadalajara. --Dklep7 (talk) 05:13, 17 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ok yeah because I've looked on that website before and the info does seem to be old...but I just thought I'd take a stab at it. Uh have you found an actual "route map" on Aeromexico's site because I've looked and looked but can only find a map that has destinations labeled but there are no actual routes. ZHoover123 05:15, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

That is not how it works. Check the airline schedule, and you will find that AM have a single flight out of Phoenix: AM 465 that does PHX-HMO-MEX. That's it. A source is NOT a source if it is wrong. Please familarise yourself with editing guidelines and rules. This was suggested to you several times, especially whilst you were blocked; evidently you haven't bothered.
And also please start signing your comments. You have been asked to do that as well several times already. Thanks, Jasepl (talk) 05:14, 17 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wait what do you mean "familarise myself?" ZHoover123 05:20, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

It means read up on the basic editing rules and guidelines as well as those governing the aviation project. Also see that they are understood, and then applied to your contributions. Also please sign your posts (using one user name). Is that clear now? Or do we need English language lessons as well? Jasepl (talk) 05:54, 17 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent edits[edit]

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Focus city[edit]

I won't actively remove it but I would expect other editors to not accept it as verifiable.Cptnono (talk) 06:09, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don't understand? ZHoover123 06:23, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Ending dates[edit]

ZHoover,

While there's no written rule on when destinations should be taken out the destinations table, it's generally accepted that they should not be taken off until the day before the service ends or begins. Otherwise people may begin to take content out weeks early.

--Dklep7 (talk) 04:01, 9 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

AirTran infobox[edit]

As I've also warned Insideairtran (talk · contribs), you're also coming up against the three-revert rule with the infobox at AirTran Airways. I'm sure you're aware of this, so this is one part courtesy reminder and one part heading off a why'd-you-warn-me-and-not-him from Insideairtran. Feel free to ask on my talk page if you have questions. —C.Fred (talk) 01:47, 14 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If you could be so kind, could you start a discussion about this change at Talk:AirTran Airways? Even if there's project-wide consensus on other US airline articles, the discussion probably needs to be had for AirTran. —C.Fred (talk) 01:58, 14 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

AirTran Airways[edit]

Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages by deliberately introducing incorrect information, as you did to AirTran Airways, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. insideairtran

As noted above, this appears to be a legitimate edit war of good-faith edits between Insideairtran and ZHoover; I have not seen any errors introduced into the article by either party. —C.Fred (talk) 01:54, 14 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hubs and focus cities[edit]

Please stop! You've been told to abide by project standards and if you disagree, bring it up there. Hubs and FCs should be listed for airports, not cities. And we don't need a bullet when there's only one item. If you're still not reading edit summaries and talk pages, you will be blocked again! HkCaGu (talk) 16:55, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well it's so nice to hear from my mother #2 again. Blocking people isn't going to solve anything! How do you know I'm not just making other accounts? This may and/or may not be my only one :) And I had a very nice discussion with someone about this and we agreed it looks way better and easier to read when the cities are listed. Just because YOU don't like doesn't mean it's wrong! And if I disagree with you or likewise, blocking isn't going to help, that will just piss people off and make it even harder to have civilized conversations w/ other editors. So if you'd like to approach this in a different, more respectful manner, be my guest, if not I won't tell you to but it will certainly show your maturity level. ZHoover123 03:02, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Looks like you still haven't learned Wikipedia and is threatening everyone with your refusal. (1) You talked to someone in "private" doesn't mean you can change things. There are WP:AIRLINES, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Airlines, Template:Infobox airline where you get a consensus, and not act on (two of) your own. (2) You still haven't learned to sign properly. (3) You are threatening to make another account, that's evasion and sock puppetry. HkCaGu (talk) 16:18, 23 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ok first of all, did I threaten to make another account no, I simply said this may and/or may not be my only one...THAT'S NOT THREATENING MY FRIEND! Learn your vocabulary. And second, I didn't talk to anyone "in private" I said I just simply talked to someone about it...it's on Wikipedia somewhere, and since you don't seem to leave me alone, I'm sure you'll find it. And I never said because I talked to someone about it, I was going to change everything. This is another one of your problems, you are putting words in my mouth and jumping to conclusions, maybe you should read my last comment again...then try back later :) And I put four of these things: ~ after everytime I write something so why it proceeds unsigned is beyond me. ZHoover123 01:36, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Basically, HkCaGu is good editor. I thinking of nominating him for admin, due to he know some rules quite well. But sometimes, we needs to get comfortable his actions and dealt with communication. --B767-500 (talk) 05:09, 24 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You're absolutely right, I do think HkCaGu is a good editor, however I think there are different ways of handling situations rather than going straight to blocking people. ZHoover123 13:01, 24 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Kahului Airport[edit]

I have reverted your changes to Kahului Airport. You removed the references for upcoming destinations, which per WP:AIRPORT-CONTENT should be provided. You appeared to replace {{okina}} with a curly single quote; they are not the same thing. -- Hawaiian717 (talk) 22:45, 13 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

PHX Edits[edit]

Hey. Some unknown ip did a bunch of random edits to the airport you might want to look through. They did a bunch of random stuff to the city page also that i just got done fixing. Thanks Cygnusloop99 (talk) 07:25, 12 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delta Connection @ PHX[edit]

First off, please stop acting as if this is a personal matter because really it is not. I would love to believe you if what you are saying was true. The fact of the matter though is that you are wrong. Just because Compass operated PHX-MEM last winter does not mean it is going to operate this upcoming winter. So far, Delta has not loaded any Compass flights for the winter. Things can certainly change, but as of right now, there is no reason to believe that Compass will be flying PHX-MEM this upcoming winter.

--Dklep7 (talk) 23:12, 14 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Also, here is Aeromexico's timetable:

http://www.aeromexico.com/en_us/Images/file597tcm_23_7138.pdf

There is only one flight out of PHX. It operates PHX-Hermosillo-Mexico City using a 737 which is mainline Aeromexico service and NOT Aeromexico Connect.

--Dklep7 (talk) 23:16, 14 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have been looking all over the internet to try and figure out if the Aeromexico flight out of PHX is actually a Connect flight or not. I am finding conflicting information with no definite sources. It's interesting because it uses a mainline flight number which makes it seem like it should be a mainline flight but multiple sources have it listed as an ERJ while others have it listed as a 737. The picture I have linked at the bottom of this paragraph is possibly the best evidence I can find that it is a mainline flight as it shows an AM 737 in PHX on June 3rd. I doubt there have been schedule changes since then but I could be wrong.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jwm1049/4685680152/

--Dklep7 (talk) 03:27, 15 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting discussion you guys are having. May I suggest using FlightAware to verify what type of equipment actually flew the route in the past days or month? HkCaGu (talk) 05:48, 15 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

CO at SEA[edit]

I wish I had a good answer for you but I guess it was just a weird day in SEA on the day the picture was taken. I only see CO using concourse B today but if you ever see CO using the South satellite consistently let me know.

--Dklep7 (talk) 23:59, 23 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

BTW, it appears that you are right about UAX not ending SFO-SEA/PHX on August 23. But please stop using exclamation points as if I was lying. The schedules did show those routes ending when I first checked. It appears that they changed the schedules recently.

--Dklep7 (talk) 00:10, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That's what I figured. They don't normally use S.

--Dklep7 (talk) 17:04, 25 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Midwest Airlines[edit]

Listen, I was banned because I'm like you worked here with no standards. We have standards how makes and editing pages, so maybe will you also following that? If we have redirecting for any pages, it's not mean so write what we want. If some user make redirect for Milwaukee airport, so like that Milwaukee General Mitchell International Airport, Milwaukee County, Wisconsin, United States (it's very long-theme redirect), you will also write that in template? Read that WP:AIRPORTS, very interesting theme :) EGroup (talk) 16:01, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

city/county/state - it's for example. EGroup (talk) 17:09, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

can u show me this talk with administrators? because I also have talk about that with some administrator, and he tell me I'm right. EGroup (talk) 17:47, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Seatac's statistics page[edit]

Hey there.... I was the IP that supported you on Southwest's MCI issue. I just wanted to say that we should be using the 2009 statisitcs, as when you put the past 12 months, that will have to be updated everymonth, which is pretty cumbersome, not to mention, data should match the pax numbers recorded in 2009. --Tespia (talk) 01:18, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

So you would have no problem with me changing it back to Jan-Dec 2009 data? I didn't revert the data back after you changed it, since I didn't want to start one of those 'edit wars' --Tespia (talk) 19:34, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! I look forward to working with you and others on maintaining SEA's page. --Tespia (talk) 22:16, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

US PHL-ANC[edit]

The flight is summer seasonal.....began June 1, 2010 and resuming Summer 2010. Here's the link: http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=196799&p=irol-newsArticle_print&ID=1432792&highlight= also, PHL-ANC is bookable next summer. Snoozlepet (talk) 04:11, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Southwest MCI-SEA[edit]

As the one who originally changed it to ending in January, per the latest Southwest schedules, which begin in May, SEA-MCI goes from 0>1, making it seasonal, like BWI and BNA, which also restart.--Tespia (talk) 03:47, 15 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Seattle-Tacoma International Airport[edit]

Hi there, well I fixed the data and got rid of Aeromexico, which no longer flies into SEA, also got rid of LAX as a QX destination, as it is not flown from Seattle. I think everything is fixed..... but I am not sure all those cargo airlines fly there - ABX? Evergreen? Not sure. --Tespia (talk) 17:30, 23 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Inserting pictures[edit]

I haven't done it in a long while, but here's what I can tell:

1. On the "toolbox" menu on the left, click on the link "Upload file" and follow the instructions.

2. Then in the article, find a section with a picture, and go into "edit" mode and copy the code and change the file name and description etc.

Hope this helps. HkCaGu (talk) 15:54, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Aeromexico at PHX[edit]

Didn't we settle this years ago? Why did you add MEX back in July? It's clearly demonstrated that your "source" is not "reliable". An airline cannot fly in a B738 everyday and nothing else, then fly out an ERJ and nothing else. Nothing has changed all these years. AM 464, a mainline B738, flies MEX-HMO and back as AM 465. AM Connect 464, an ERJ, flies HMO-PHX and back as AM Connect 465. AM 464 touches down before AM Connect takes off, and AM Connect 465 touches down before AM 465 takes off. Therefore, the only qualified listing for PHX is Aeromexico Connect to HMO. HkCaGu (talk) 06:01, 14 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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