User talk:ZANI Ezine

Welcome[edit]

Welcome

Hello and welcome to Wikipedia. We appreciate encyclopedic contributions, but some of your recent contributions seem to be advertising or for promotional purposes. Wikipedia does not allow advertising in articles or on talk pages; in addition, adding messages to multiple pages to garner support for your link is generally discouraged. For more information on this, see

For the most part, external links are only added if they directly improve the article. This is no reflection on the quality of your site, simply a reflection of the fact that there are thousands of web sites publishing interviews and information. Wikipedia was never designed to be a directory service, and cannot list every interview published. If you still have questions, there is a new contributor's help page, or you can write {{helpme}} below this message along with a question and someone will be along to answer it shortly. You may also find the following pages useful for a general introduction to Wikipedia.

I hope you enjoy editing Wikipedia! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. Feel free to write a note on the bottom of my talk page if you want to get in touch with me. Again, welcome! Ckatz^chat _spy 20:32, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent edits[edit]

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ZANI Links on Talk Page deleted[edit]

Dear Ckatz, I am the editor of ZANI Ezine. Please view the email below, in reference to my links being deleted. I went through the proper channels, IE putting the link and a covering letter on the talk page. Now that has been deleted, this is madness, and unfair censorship. I am independent online magazine, that present intelligent articles. Now it seems I am blacklisted for putting forward my work, I know Wikipedia is not a list of links , but my interviews have the full support of the subjects. As I work with them, and show them the article prior to going live. They like my style and passion. Many of ZANI’s subjects have put on their articles on their MySpace page, and their official sites. This is surely a strong indication of their belief in ZANI. Therefore if a fan reads their entry in Wikipedia , and then my interview is good for “further research, that is accurate and on-topic “ to quote you, then why isn’t ZANI not seen as a worthy link. Wikipedia never seemed to be like this.

For the record, I have spoken to Irvine Welsh and Dean Cavanagh

Good Arrows [1]

Babylon Heights [2]

(Two pieces of work, that I had exclusivity before the mainstream press)

And they both furious over my treatment and the links being deleted. Moreover, a great deal of ZANI links were not put up by me or members of the ZANI team. I am not looking for an monopoly, but just a chance to be happy and creative, and saw Wikepedia helping to achieve this. Again there is nothing wrong in getting traffic to their sites. I will speak to many of interview subjects, and present proof if need be that want their ZANI interviews on their Wikipedia page. If that isn’t enough to convince you that ZANI is admirable link, then I don’t know.

Again I tried the Talk Page, I was deleted , within five mintues, why ? I have nothing wrong, other then try and produce an Ezine. Sorry about grammar and spelling mistakes, but I wrote this in a hurry

Yours sincerely

Matteo Editor [www.zani.co.uk]

Original Message -----

From: "Wikipedia information team" <info-en@wikimedia.org> To: "Matteo - ZANI" <matteo@zani.co.uk> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 8:01 PM Subject: Re: [Ticket#2008091010038124] My links are getting deleted.

>> Hello >> >> I am the editor of ZANI ezine. ZANI is an Ezine for popular and counter >> culture, which is driven by anything that is or has been a phenomenon or >> a >> creative movement in modern >> society, with an emphasis on music and films. >> >> I have added many of the articles to Wikipedia, i.e. interviews that I >> have >> done and the subject has a Wikipedia entry. I noticed that all the links >> have >> I added, were deleted. First of all, I thought of all it was a jealous >> Ezine. >> I put them back up, and within 5 minutes they were deleted. >> >> Therefore I presume that you view my links as spamming, this is wrong. >> All of >> the subjects I have interviewed, support my website and like the >> interviews I >> have done, to the point that many of them promote the interviews >> themselves >> such as Paul Weller's ex Drummer Steve White, Actress Caroline Munro, >> Irvine >> Welsh, Celebrity Gangster Dave Courtney, The Apollo Theatre in Harlem, >> The >> English Beat Dave Wakeling and many more. If the artists are proud of the >> interviews, and allow me to promote the content of ZANI, then how I am >> spamming, and why are they deleted ? This so wrong, I offer an in depth >> study >> of my subjects, which new and old fans can appreciate , and at times >> ZANI's >> work is better then the mainstream media. >> Wikipedia is a great platform for knowledge, and I believe what ZANI >> offers, >> enhances this. Other links are not deleted, why ZANI's. >> >> Please allow to put my links back on the site, as they are beneficial to >> the >> artists. I can provide written conformation from my interview subjects to >> support my claim, which will show that your act of censorship is not >> supporting their work. >> >> I look forward to your reply. >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Matteo Sedazzari >> Editor >> ZANI >> www.zani.co.uk > > See the conflict of interest rules discussed and linked to at > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/wp:el#ADV>, specifically: "You should avoid > linking to a website that you own, maintain or represent, even if the > guidelines otherwise imply that it should be linked. If the link is to a > relevant and informative site that should otherwise be included, please > consider mentioning it on the talk page and let neutral and independent > Wikipedia editors decide whether to add it." > -- > Jeandré du Toit > -- —Preceding unsigned comment added by ZANI Ezine (talk • contribs) 08:23, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your note. However, what you've written indicates precisely why the links have been removed. First off, as owner of the site, you have a conflict of interest in assessing whether or not a link to your site is needed. You also stated that the subjects of the articles want their interviews on their pages. It is important to realize that those individuals do not control Wikipedia articles about them; in fact, they would be subject to the same "conflict of interest" requirements that you face. As to your point about wanting to drive traffic to these sites, and to produce a webzine - you are commended for your success, but Wikipedia cannot be used to promote other sites.

You've described this removal as "censorship"; I can only say that it is nothing of the sort. Simply put, Wikipedia is not a directory service; it does not exist to list every article, interview, and site related to subjects. Now, if your site is linked, what do we say to the next site owner who wants to place a link? (And the next, and the next, and so on.)

Finally, while site owners are encouraged to post on an article's talk page regarding a link, that is more intended for single-article applications, not as an encouragement to place requests on dozens of pages. While you had only placed two, it seemed reasonable to presume that you would continue to all of the articles where your links used to be. Now, instead of just asking for a link, why not find an actual purpose for the link? That is to say, if you have information in your interview that is unique, or that is not already present in the article, then perhaps your article can be used as a reference. I hope this helps; as with your note, it is rather quick, so please feel free to ask if you have other questions. --Ckatz^chat _spy 08:39, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]