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Hi, I have redirected the article you created, List of highest-grossing Tamil movies, to List of highest-grossing Tamil films because your creation of the article duplicated content already found in the latter article. The "Tamil films" article has existed for several years, and is more suitably named. Thanks. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:52, 4 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

August 2016[edit]

Information icon Please do not add original research to articles as you apparently did to List of highest-grossing Tamil films. Please cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. Diffs: [1][2] Your personal evaluations do not belong in articles. If this content, including the observations you have made, are noteworthy, then you will be able to support them with reliable sources. Also, when content you submit is challenged, the burden is yours to discuss on the talk page and to dig up references. Resubmitting challenged content is not constructive. Thanks. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 06:00, 23 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Re: this, I can't figure out what this edit is, other than disruptive. Without even explaining your change, let alone opening a discussion on the talk page to get some input, you ignored the 130 crore sourced gross for Veeram and replaced it with the 128 crore gross of Kaththi. I'd appreciate if you'd please explain your justification for doing this, since it look like "I like Kaththi better" or "I don't personally believe Veeram made that much". What is this? This is indistinguishable from vandalism to me. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 21:20, 2 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Well, there aren't enough sources to suggest that Veeram had grossed 130 crores while sufficient news sources have proved that Kaththi has grossed 128 crores wordwide. IBT has also removed the link for Veeram, replacing it with Kaththi as the 5th highest grossing at that time of its publication (in July'15). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wadelison (talkcontribs)
How does anyone know how many sources there are if you don't discuss anything? As to the other part of your response, I don't see anything here that I can click on to check your statement about the placement of the film in a list. You should also be aware if you're not already, that the financials for Indian films are largely estimates, there are no "official" values, and thus there are no absolutes. So having more sources say X doesn't mean Y is any less accurate. That said, the actual source, Forbes India, is a bit vague on the gross, indicating "about 130". What these articles actually need as references, rather than sourced gross values, are references to "Top grossing film" lists, so that we can see how the so-called "authorities" place each film over one another. But it's fairly rare that we see those. @Kailash29792: Do you have any input on how this should be treated? Should we pull Veeram off the list since the source is vague? Present both films in the #10 spot? What's smart here? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 21:53, 2 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]


As mentioned above, IBT has positioned Kaththi as the 5th highest grossing movie at that time of the page's publication- July, 2015. (http://www.ibtimes.co.in/photos/all-time-highest-grossing-tamil-films-2881-slide-21711). Veeram is not even listed in the top 10. These are other links which support Kaththi's gross:

http://www.desiretrees.org/kaththi-box-office-collections/

http://www.tamilboxoffice1.com/2015/01/kaththi-world-wide-grossnetshare.html

http://www.indianmoviestats.com/moviedetail.html?movie=35

http://andhraboxoffice.com/info.aspx?id=683&cid=6&fid=872

There is no way Veeram could have grossed 130 crores, as Cyphoidbomb has stated earlier, the Forbes India stat is vague. There are no sources to back its gross. When thought logically, Veeram had a box office clash with Jilla. Both of them gathered similar opening collections. Jilla's lifetime gross was estimated to be around 70 crores. Is it possible for both the movies to do 200 crores in collections in total? The figure is hard to match even for a Hindi film feature back in early 2014. So kindly remove Veeram and replace it with Kaththi.

I think this needs to be discussed on the article's talk page so that more people have a chance to see it. Also, I don't think any of the additional four sources you brought to the discussion would be considered reliable by the Indian cinema task force. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 21:45, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Rounding[edit]

Hi there, re: these, you made some mistakes with rounding that need to be fixed, please. Hum Aapke Hain Koun you have at 127, but the source indicates 127.95, which would round up to 128 if you were rounding to the nearest whole number. If you were rounding to the nearest hundredth (like some of the other numbers are) it should be 129.96 because the next digit in line is a 5 (129.965). Dil To Pagal Hai you have at 71.86, but if we were rounding to the nearest hundredth, the next digit is a 5 (71.865) so we would round UP to 71.87. Please see this primer. Thank you. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 22:13, 14 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Also, you should consider that since you're updating the Highest-grossing films by year column, and none of those references you submitted seem to indicate that each film was the highest-grossing film of that year, the numbers are inherently problematic and may all wind up deleted anyway. It is a significant verifiability problem when all we have in that list are grosses, rather than summaries that say "X film was the highest grossing film of 2012 and it made Rs. NNN.NN crore." Surely we don't require readers to know the grosses of every film in Indian history. So when someone clicks on this reference, how do they confirm that No Entry was in fact the highest-grossing Indian film of 2005? That's what the giant message at the top of the section is about. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 22:19, 14 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with the objection raised above. You are just adding citations which show information about one particular movie not all the movies from the year. In case you haven't checked, the pre-existing data is backed by list for the whole year. The section is titled, 'Highest-grossing films by year', you have to cite the gross by the year not by the movies. Shimlaites (talk) 10:49, 15 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, regarding the following replies above, I agree with the objections raised above. But, you must understand that the gross fgures stated are just domestic collections of the movies. The column title was "Worldwide collections", hence I had updated those figures. Please change the column title to Domestic Collection or remove Box Office India as a reliable source. -Wadelison

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Hi there, re: these changes, please quickly familiarise yourself with our community guidelines on reliable sources. You've been given several opportunities to get up to speed on this, as I notice on your talk page several links to the guidelines. Blastingnews is not a sufficient reference. We only care what reliable published sources with established reputations for fact-checking and accuracy have to say. Unless you're prepared to argue that you know who runs the site and what journalistic credentials they have, you should stick to known mainstream news sites. See WP:ICTF#Guidelines on sources for some examples of good and bad sources. You should also avoid any primary source (actors, directors, distributors, producers) for controversial claims about their financial achievements, as these people have vested interests to exaggerate. Many of the figures reported for The Great Father have come from the producers. There is obviously a long-standing competition between Mohanlal and Mammootty and we aren't here to fuel it by blindly republishing exaggerated claims. So again, we need independent verification from established sources. Thank you. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 13:36, 3 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Why did you remove Chennai Express in the timeline of the highest grossing movies. Many reputed newspapers from your "published sources with established reputations for fact-checking and accuracy" have said that Chennai Express was the highest grossing movie at the time of its release, until its records were broken by Dhoom 3 a few months later-Wadelison

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- I think I did cite a reliable source. Please check before editing- Wadelison

@Wadelison, what u were edited for yash, ur provided source was all awards belongs to Kirik party film, I don't find any single awards for SSF. So kindly check before citing the source and not even only yash page your all edits are abnormal, which doesn't have any regards to particular page n info, if u continue same u will be blocked from editing. Tevar shaa —Preceding undated comment added 10:08, 8 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Highest grossing Tamil films[edit]

Please add sources every time you say a film became the highest grossing in some aspect. Kailash29792 (talk) 09:47, 20 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Also, here, you wrote Innocent won an award. Who is Innocent? I couldn't understand as the link takes me to an unrelated topic. Kindly look into it. Further, here you have added two links, both of them are incorrect links. One link takes me to the genre page and the other one links to a disambiguation page. Please help by correct them also. Thank you Vivek Ray (talk) 04:57, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
After a week with no reply, I've decided to go ahead and start removing these edits, because they are not sourced, are not very useful, include redlinks, and are generally non sequiturs where they are placed. They are simply not improvements. Wadelison, if you would like to add this information in a more constructive fashion (with citations), please feel free. Jessicapierce (talk) 02:49, 16 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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You're currently adding the same boilerplate text to tonnes of articles using Wikipedia as a source. We don't do that. Find a proper source please.

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July 2019[edit]

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Please stop adding all this rubbish to cricket biographies of being in a random XI side. Thanks. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 18:33, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

These aren't any random XI. These are selected by the cricket governing board. Please look them up before commenting anything related to cricket. If you do not know anything, please leave the edits to someone else well-versed in cricket.

I agree with @Lugnuts:. The way you're doing this is causing a range of difficulties and WP:IINFO certainly applies. There are enough problems with biographies in general becoming "and then she did this ... and then this happened to her ..." etc... That's not the way that we should be writing a biography really, so if someone's been in many of these teams it strikes me as more appropriate to be writing "Smith (was/has been) voted one of the leading T10 players (in 2024/on several occasions/each year between 1845 and 1876) by the TCCB" or similar. It would also be nice to see that you've a) learned how to reference (it really isn't that hard if you look) and b) can adapt your referencing style where necessary to the page in question. Blue Square Thing (talk) 13:35, 18 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I have no issue with it being the ICC's XI of the Cricket World Cup, but all the rest isn't needed. Esp. when you've started to recently add Cricbuzz's XI Test side of X year! Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 13:38, 18 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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July 2019[edit]

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Information icon Hello. This is a message to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions did not appear constructive and has been reverted. Please take some time to familiarise yourself with our policies and guidelines. You can find information about these at our welcome page which also provides further information about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. If you only meant to make test edits, please use the sandbox for that. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you may leave a message on my talk page. You been asked a number of times to stop adding non-notable achievements to cricketer's pages. Please stop doing so. Blue Square Thing (talk) 14:46, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Be careful about editing when not logged in as well. I found three edits from an IP address rather than your account. I'm sure this was simply an accident, but it's worth being careful - it can appear as if you're trying to avoid scrutiny. Blue Square Thing (talk) 15:21, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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