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Proposed Merger of WWI Memorial Pages

It seems there is a consensus of three in the discussion of merging National World War I Museum and Memorial and National World War I Memorial. The near identical names alone are good enough for me. But I think the merge should go the other direction since the title of the former includes both the museum and the memorial. I've sketched out a plan to begin merging, but wanted to see if you would rather have this on your to-do list. I am new to Wiki editing but I'm sure I can do it. However, I am more than willing to continue discussions with you or anyone else before jumping right into it.

Also, I almost feel like the Memorial page should redirect to Liberty Memorial and not vice-versa as it currently is, thus solving the near-identical article names, and leave a smaller article on the memorial as its own page. There definitely are redundancies on the Memorial and M&M pages that could be eliminated on one or the other. What are your thoughts? RM2KX (talk) 21:12, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

Disregard second comment. We now have a consensus of four to proceed with the merge, but I'm still prepping it for going the other direction. RM2KX (talk) 04:54, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

Okay... (I'm behind the curve here, reading my own page a day late.) - Tim1965 (talk) 18:11, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

I have closed the discussion(s), but still want to clarify with you since you originated the proposal: Are you OK with Liberty Memorial redirecting to National World War I Museum and Memorial, since that is the name the site is using now (as seen in its logo)? We are no longer discussing the merge itself, we are really only talking about the name of the article. Obviously the Liberty Memorial would get top attention on the newly merged page. RM2KX (talk) 21:31, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

• Yes, I'm completely fine with that! - Tim1965 (talk) 17:48, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

Also, I have already begun some copy editing in my sandbox and want to complete the transfer of that work before beginning the merge. RM2KX (talk) 21:31, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

You are doing outstanding yeoman's work on this. - Tim1965 (talk) 17:50, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

Thank you! RM2KX (talk) 18:02, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

Detroit, Monroe and Toledo Railroad

Thanks for the thanks. I saw your interesting article and looked around for some images. All the best. Magnolia677 (talk) 16:55, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

A beer for you!

For your work on District articles. Quacks Like a Duck (talk) 22:56, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

Wow, thank you!!! - Tim1965 (talk) 14:22, 25 March 2017 (UTC)

Citation format for Brandon Todd

Hi, I noticed that you changed the citation format for this entry. Its now in the more standard inlince citatiion, but do you think that's better? I find it less easily readable or editable. Also I'd added something about the campaign finance part, but not with the detail that came with your edit. Bangabandhu (talk) 16:29, 9 April 2017 (UTC)

It's not really whether you or I find it more readable or editable, as everyone's opinion is probably different. It's what the Manual of Style suggests: Generally speaking, a full citation for a news item would not appear in the "References" section unless a short citation (such as an APA-style citation format) were used in the main text. Books and longer journal articles, for example, could have a full citation appear once in the main text, with the {{rp|XXX}} code following (to indicate page number); alternatively, a book or longer journal article's full citation could appear in the "Bibliography" section, with a short citation in the main text (which may, or may not, be linked with code to the full citation). News media articles, especially those which are online, are far shorter and usually page numbers are included as courtesies to aid in location rather than because they are needed to locate information in the cited text. Thus, a news media article generally receives a full citation in the main text. While list-defined references, as you used them, are absolutely acceptable, there are some important drawbacks that worsen as the article becomes longer and more complex (which is likely with the Brandon Todd article; it's not very well-developed at the moment). It's not an either-or choice, admittedly, but mixing styles requires a lot more coding expertise and might discourage newbies from participating in the article. - Tim1965 (talk) 16:52, 9 April 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the background, I didn't know all that. I'd say that the question about which is more user friendly is an open one. It's tough to put myself in the shoes of a first time user, but I think the List Defined References make it much easier to add new text. And since the reference still appears in abbreviated form, the reminder is still there that all text should be properly cited. Agreed that mixing styles makes things a lot more complicated and risks errors with citations being mentioned differently. Bangabandhu (talk) 18:45, 9 April 2017 (UTC)

If you wish to switch it back, do so. - Tim1965 (talk) 02:50, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

Precious five years!

Precious

Five years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:36, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

Oh my goodness!!!!  :) - Tim1965 (talk) 12:37, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

GF

I'm in GF, right now (Saturday), but leaving by noon tomorrow -- might be able to get something photographed -- got a bunch of shots of Tower Rock on the trip up. I want to get an updated shot of the Arvon Block, but may not get downtown before I go... maybe just update the request list? I'm definitely going to be up here again in late July for the horse racing... Montanabw^(talk) 02:19, 7 May 2017 (UTC)

The request list is still current, because there've been no new images added. I wish someone could host a Wikithon at a high school or something and get some students or UGF people or a camera club interested in taking photos of Great Falls. If I had the income, I'd fly there and stay two weeks and host them myself! Argh!!!! - Tim1965 (talk) 13:12, 7 May 2017 (UTC)

It started raining Sunday and though interesting, not good for photography. Got a bunch more photos of Tower Rock on the way up, though, stopped off there for a few minutes. You could always move back up here, ya know... Montanabw^(talk) 04:21, 9 May 2017 (UTC)

Different project

I see that Montana State Fairgrounds Racetrack is a redlink but a NRHP property. Can you possibly to the basic magic pixie dust to create this and I can go in and do photos and finish it up? Montanabw^(talk) 02:10, 14 May 2017 (UTC)

Sure. Let me finish the NRHP I'm working on now, and it'll be next. - Tim1965 (talk) 02:57, 14 May 2017 (UTC)

Okay, now that I'm awake and not brain-dead: There is no NRHP listing in Cascade County or Great Falls for "Montana State Fairgrounds Racetrack". However, there is one for Montana ExpoPark, e.g., Montana State Fairgrounds, e.g., Northern Montana State Fairground Historic District. Did you mean a racetrack some place else? - Tim1965 (talk) 14:44, 14 May 2017 (UTC)

FYI: I reviewed the NRHP submission for the ExpoPark, and it barely mentions the track. I don't think the racetrack itself is part of the historic district, but may be. - Tim1965 (talk) 15:15, 14 May 2017 (UTC)

I got it. Lewis & Clark County! - Tim1965 (talk) 19:36, 14 May 2017 (UTC)

Oh my god... The home stretch is now a parking lot. The infield is now a massive building. Is this thing even on the NRHP any more? - Tim1965 (talk) 01:17, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

Reminds me of the old Secrets/Ziegfeld's - now second base. :-( APK whisper in my ear 01:25, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

Which reminds me: I have photos of D.C. LGBTQ businesses from the early 1990s I need to turn in to Rainbow History Project. (Did you know that La Cage looked like a lot smaller in daylight?) - Tim1965 (talk) 12:55, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

All right, Montanabw^(talk), go take your photos! Article's up and done. Superimpose some ghostly images of horses racing past the new exhibition hall. - Tim1965 (talk) 15:33, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

Thank you so much! Yes, the destruction of the place disheartened me considerably; I actually even went on local access TV with some people to fight it. There was a county commissioner who wondered why we needed a circular track to run Quarter Horses, thinking they could just stop at the end and turn around or something... *headdesk*. BTW, did I email you the article I wrote for real publication about the Great Falls Track? If I didn't, shoot me an email and I'll send it to you... Montanabw^(talk) 03:05, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

I got it! Thanks! - Tim1965 (talk) 13:51, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

I'm Confused

I'm a bit confused right now. I checked the backlog in recent changes for articles that don't have enough wikilinks and I came across this article: Magers and Quinn. I rewrote the sentences, added wikilinks and attempted to de-orphan the page by writing a short section at Bryant Building. However you have removed that information (and probably rightly so) because it turns out that the Bryant Building is not in Minneapolis (which is where the Magers Quinn article suggested that it was). Confusion naturally followed. Would be real appreciated if you could solve the issue as to how the information got mixed up. Thanks in advance! -=Troop=- (talk) 19:55, 9 July 2017 (UTC)

Rod Serling is nearby? There is no article for the Bryant Building in Minneapolis. The existing article is for the Bryant Building in Cleveland. The Magers & Quinn article has a bad link, which I've fixed. - Tim1965 (talk) 22:48, 9 July 2017 (UTC)

Sweet work improving the article. The help was much appreciated. Thanks. -=Troop=- (talk) 11:05, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

You're welcome! I wish I could find a Star-Tribune article about the store's expansion way-back-when, but I don't have access to that newspaper. (I live in Cleveland, not Minneapolis.) - Tim1965 (talk) 14:22, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

Howell G. Crim

Funny you should mention him just now - I work near Pohick and was off early today, so I went in search of his grave for photographing. Found it, too. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 23:18, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

• How awesome!! - Tim1965 (talk) 23:37, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
  • And I've just added the picture into the article. Not incorporated quite as well as I'd like, but it's there. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 14:16, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

A well deserved barnstar!

		The Original Barnstar
		For your extremely impressive work on Union-Miles Park. Excellent stuff by you, as always, keep up the great work! Carrite (talk) 17:11, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

• Gosh, thank you! - Tim1965 (talk) 17:19, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

Rachel Sherman (sociologist)

Hello. Thank you for creating Rachel Sherman (sociologist). I added an infobox and removed the notability tag after reading a review of her second book in the FT. Would you please consider adding more RS to fix the other issues?Zigzig20s (talk) 13:38, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

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SS Andaste

If you have access t o the Davendorf book, maybe this is mentioned? Don't forget to alpha sort the books. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 17:07, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

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Time of day for a Stinger

Hi Tim,

I have had a look at the citation that you have indicated and agree that David Wondrich has determined that since the 1920s the Stinger has been a before-dinner drink. However, the IBA indicates that it remains an after-dinner cocktail. Shall I have a go at articulating this more clearly and concisely in the infobox?

Cheers!

Prymal (talk) 21:03, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

Go ahead! I tried to find some more sources for the claim, either way, but my limited access to sources didn't come up with anything else. - Tim1965 (talk) 01:13, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

Cheers - done! Prymal (talk) 08:58, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

Homestead strike

Hi.
I moved the article Homestead strike a few moments ago. But while doing it, the script exited early, so the automated operation was stopped while it wasnt finished. Later, I did it manually. I think now I have moved all the pages accurately; but I would like somebody to take a look with fresh mind, yet who is familiar with the article, and the sub-pages. You, and North Shoreman are top contributors to the article; who are still active. Sorry for the mess. —usernamekiran(talk) 17:49, 7 December 2017 (UTC)