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Hi. Please see Help:Referencing for beginners and WP:MOSALBUM for better article formatting. Thanks

@Jennica: Thanks for cleaning up my articles. Advice taken on board, and I'll try to format better in the future.Stormy clouds (talk) 17:36, 6 May 2017 (UTC)

Articles on Hamilton the musical songs

Interesting endeavour to present the songs of the musical as songs with musical commentary while linking them to the pages of the real historical figures. Let's hope it will help users to explore the real facts and distinguish the fictional musical with all it historical inaccuracies from the recorded events. Congratulations (pun deliberately intended). Isananni (talk) 16:36, 6 May 2017 (UTC)

Sincerest thanks.Stormy clouds (talk) 17:36, 6 May 2017 (UTC)

Talk:Main Page

Hi there. Your comment on Talk:Main Page appeared to be off-topic for that page, so I removed it. That page is for editorial discussion directly related to the main page. Thanks. Murph9000 (talk) 06:10, 9 May 2017 (UTC)

@Murph9000:Cool. Sorry.Stormy clouds (talk) 06:26, 9 May 2017 (UTC)

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Fixture is calling you out, brah. LordAtlas (talk) 00:57, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

Stormy clouds, I've already told Fixture to drop the stick and move on. However, with only a few hundred edits under your belt, I'd suggest that you do not attempt closures in contentious areas for a long while yet. Even if the closure is correct (and since judgement comes with experience, that may not always be the case) closures are best left alone, because a newish user closing things is likely to cause more drama than it will solve. Regards, Vanamonde (talk) 06:18, 8 June 2017 (UTC)
@LordAtlas:,@Vanamonde93: - thanks for the help and advice. Will take on board. I just chose to close as it would not get consensus and incorporated attacks on editors. Will not close again. Stormy clouds (talk) 08:25, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

Ann Prentiss

I removed the later life section you added because the source for it was a blogspot blog. Blogspot blogs are self-publshed and fail WP:RS....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 13:58, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

@WilliamJE: - Okay. It did sound dodgy. Stormy clouds (talk) 14:46, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

A Horse Walks into a Bar

Hello, User:Stormy clouds. In the early content you provided for the Plot section of A Horse Walks into a Bar (your edit of 14:26 on 16 June 2017), the town of Netanya is described as "secluded." Does this - to my eye, peculiar - description come directly from the book itself, in either its original or translated version? Not finding it mentioned in either of the reviews cited for that section, I raised the issued in Talk:A Horse Walks into a Bar#Subjective descriptor in Plot section. Your response there would be appreciated. -- Cheers, Deborahjay (talk) 15:33, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

Top 25

I didn't claim the Top 25, I just took the list from the Top 5000 for someone to write the report. Nice to see someone else writing, but if you don't mind I'll fill in\replace a few of your images. Also, since I removed Darth Vader (rules are rules!) and put in the Punisher, if you can rewrite your intro to add your comments on a fourth superhero entry... (albeit one without powers) igordebraga ≠ 23:40, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, @Igordebraga: - will fix now. Stormy clouds (talk) 16:38, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

Women in Red World Contest

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arb election question

I am the ip you mentioned and remember that exchange. Funny to get mentioned in a question to a candidate, haha. But anyway, glad to see you reinserted your question. Could you imagine someone who will try to win an argument on technicalities just because one disagrees on substance be an arbitrator... Or someone who crys bias just because of differing opinions... (rethorical questions) Never wanted to to make an account but being able to oppose candidates like that sure makes it tempting. For next year maybe, haha. Enough of my rambling though. Just wanted to say thank you for bringing that to attention of potential voters and express my amusement of being mentioned. Have a good day anyway and sorry to bother you. 91.49.65.208 (talk) 14:58, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

No problem. Sincerest thanks for coming here to express that. Ditto to you regarding the good day. Stormy clouds (talk) 15:35, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
No need for that at all. I just care about having wikipedia be as decent as possible in regards to content but also very much the behind the scenes goings-on. I may not comment much on the latter, not like one would be taken serious editing as an ip anyway lol, it still interests me. When glorified janitors are the pinnacle of an encyclopedia, something somewhere went very wrong... I guess i am rambling on again, haha. Sorry about that. But anyway, no need to bore you with the views of a stranger who is too proud to make an account more than i already have... 91.49.65.208 (talk) 20:47, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

WO

May I inquire as to which comments you found problematic? --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 21:03, 7 December 2017 (UTC)

@SarekOfVulcan: Sorry. Mischaracterised it. I just disliked the assertion that your motivation to run was to stop someone else getting in. Does not seem like a positive rationale, but I will remove material in voter guide as it now strikes me as extreme. Stormy clouds (talk) 21:05, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
Thanks. It's not like I had never considered Arbcom before - I was just particularly alarmed at the small field at that point in the election, and I felt like I was a much better alternative than at least one other candidate. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 21:14, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
@SarekOfVulcan: No problem. Apologies for any upset caused. I tend to edit any WP space, like WP:TOP25, with tongue firmly in-cheek, though sometimes I go overboard. If you decide to go next year, I'd lean support based on your record to be frank. Stormy clouds (talk) 21:16, 7 December 2017 (UTC)

RfA

Hi Stormy-- you forgot to sign your post. Kablammo (talk) 19:34, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

@Kablammo: - Whoops. Sorry, I have a tendency to do that. Stormy clouds (talk) 20:20, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

Not sure if you saw this...

During the AFD discussion, Anna created this other discussion on possibly creating notability guidelines for terrorism.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 20:51, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

Just a suggestion

At WP:ITN/C, I personally think it's better to mark the article [Attention needed] as opposed to [Ready] when you think it looks ready, especially if you are the nominator. There have been discussions about the [Ready] tag over the years, most recently probably this one? Just a suggestion. Best, Alex Shih (talk) 22:07, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

@Alex Shih: - OK. I only use [Ready] out of convention, though I understand the WP:COI argument. Does the [Attention needed] tag not have connotations of an article being in a torrid state, in need of urgent update, though? I normally only use it in such a context, though, as an admin, do you feel that it will be considered with the same level of severity as [Ready] from a posting standpoint? Stormy clouds (talk) 22:13, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
Short answer is, yes. I guess the point is if many admins (myself included) will overlook the [Ready] tags, it's probably more productive to get people's attention with another tag. There will be times when you mark something [Ready] and gets unmarked by someone else, so I try to only use [Ready] tag only when the article has been thoroughly discussed and worked on. Alex Shih (talk) 22:23, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
Thanks Alex, both for the advice and for general help over at ITN/C and DYK. Will take on board. Stormy clouds (talk) 22:31, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

Top 25

While I think about both the week's report (which Soulbust already claimed) and the yearly one (will you let someone else write the Star Wars entry?)... found something to counter the criticism your reports earned. igordebraga ≠ 05:03, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, @Igordebraga: - lifts the festive spirits. I will leave Star Wars alone. (My idea had been along the lines of "You know what this is and why it is here, so here is the entry for Chris Cornell that it replaced. Gotta restore balance by subsuming him into the Force.", so another write-up is probably better). Stormy clouds (talk) 11:56, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

No problem, I only tagged you in the talk because there are three entries related to Liverpool's defeat - and like you, I also wanted them to win, things get dull if the same guys win thrice in a row. Didn't know if you'd be ready by June or after June (and in the meantime, I keep on waiting for more people to step up and write those reports, because otherwise it's just me). igordebraga ≠ 18:11, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

You claimed it, feel free to start it... should've put in your template, but that's a detail. igordebraga ≠ 18:08, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

@Igordebraga: - doing so right now. Stormy clouds (talk) 18:09, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

Happy holidays

I'm having a merry Christmas and I hope you have a good day today and a happy new year. Thanks for working with me over the past year on the Top 25 Report. Keep up the good work.  SchreiberBike | ⌨  20:17, 25 December 2017 (UTC)

RfA

Thank you for your participation in RfA - it's one of the most important elections on Wikipedia. Please read WP:RFAV beforfe you vote again. Happy New Year :) Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 00:57, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

@Kudpung: - Thanks for welcoming me to the RfA process, and ditto regarding the New Year sentiments. I have familiarised myself with RFAV, and this is not the first RfA in which I have participated. Thus, could you kindly clarify what you are requesting of me and why. Thanks - Stormy clouds (talk) 01:35, 2 January 2018 (UTC)


DYK nomination of Wikipedia:Annual Top 50 Report

Hello. Your submission of Wikipedia:Annual Top 50 Report at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and appears ineligible. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry, and you may respond there. Thank you. -- Alanscottwalker (talk) 19:11, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

@Alanscottwalker: - thank you. Stormy clouds (talk) 19:43, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
Bummer, but really I agree with their assessment. I just know people would find it interesting if they knew about it and we've got limited ways to get the word out.  SchreiberBike | ⌨  19:45, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
@SchreiberBike: - It is accurate, all right. Just a shame that we could not experiment a bit, as it is of interest. I think that we will be confined to emailing external internet outlets, and hoping for Reddit traction (thanks for posting), to publicise this one. Stormy clouds (talk) 19:56, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

Irish 2016 census figures

Hiya. I noticed that you've updated the population figures on a number of Irish town/village articles. From the 2011 census figures, to the 2016 census figures. Which is great! However, and I'm sure I am just missing something (so perhaps you can help me), but I can't seem to find some of the numbers on the page that has been added as the ref/link. For this change for example, which indicates nearly 50% population growth in Dunboyne over 5 years, I see a link to this page by way of support. However, I can't find Dunboyne or the number in question listed on that page. Is the Dunboyne number available or linked somewhere "downstream" from that page? Can you help me find it? (FYI - In the SAPMAP reports for 2016, Dunboyne is given a different population figure, indicating a more modest growth. So I'm just trying to reconcile what you are seeing with what I am seeing). Guliolopez (talk) 00:12, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

@Guliolopez: - Hi. I actually contacted the CSO directly in person to ask about the best way to update the population values. For the links that I am using, I am referring to the map at the base of the linked webpage, which, by using the manual search function, lists the population as 10,072 for the electoral area of Dunboyne (the most relevant classification of the town). When I contacted the CSO, they pointed me in the direction of the linked web page and cited this as their preferred source for the relevant updates, so I have been using it. However, if you feel that the SAPMAP is more accurate, I am willing to revert to your judgement and use those figures. Stormy clouds (talk) 00:17, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
Hi. Thanks for the quick response. That explains it. In general though, the boundaries for the electoral divisions and the boundaries for the towns are not the same thing. (Electoral divisions are simply not the same as towns). For example, the electoral division of Dunboyne (which really just happens to share the name of the largest settlement within the DED) is a very large rural area that includes various other villages and settlements within its bounds. Adding the population for the electoral division of Dunboyne, as if it were equivalent to the town of Dunboyne, is not ideal. At all. The SAPMAP data for settlements is at least bounded by the same borders as the scope of the articles. And the equivalent 2011 numbers. (The population of the town of Dunboyne didn't increase by nearly 50% in the 5 years from 2011 to 2016 for example. But but a more realistic 4%). Cheers. Guliolopez (talk) 00:30, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
Thanks, @Guliolopez: - the SAPMAP figures seem to be more accurate. Sincerest apologies for my errant edits, as it appears I have affected the pages detrimentally. Is there a way that you are aware of that to access SAPMAP figures easily for various towns, as I am less intimate with that system. Would like to make amends. Sorry, and thanks in advance. Stormy clouds (talk) 00:33, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
Hi. Not to worry. If you want to self revert for now, I will take a look (tomorrow) at how best to update those articles. In honesty, the SAPMAP data is not all that easy to navigate - forcing visitors to surf the map to access the data rather than having a searchable "text" interface. Perhaps this is not overly unusual though - given the name/purpose of that service. If you do find a quick way to interact with it, let me know. For myself, when I've done it, I've disabled the other layers, enabled the "settlements" layer, and found the town I wanted that way. (Although doing it that way means you have to be pretty comfortable with Irish geography :) ). Anyway, if you want to self revert any concerns you have for now, I'll take a stab tomorrow. And, if I find an easier way to navigate/update those figures, I'll be sure to let you know. Cheers. Guliolopez (talk) 00:40, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for your thoughtful close of the ITN nomination for the Cape Town water crisis item. I think there is something poetic about "stormy clouds" closing a discussion about a drought. Hopefully this is a good omen! Best, -- Notecardforfree (talk) 19:06, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

@Notecardforfree: - Thanks. The situation is dire, and I certainly hope that we can bless the rains soon. Apologies for closing your nomination, as I have no personal sentiments against it. It was mere procedure, as the nomination was somewhat too soon, and lacking in newsworthiness as a result. If it develops further, I will support unabashedly. Regards, Stormy clouds (talk) 19:10, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

Welcome to The Wikipedia Adventure!

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2018 Winter Olympics

Hi Stormy clouds. I don't know if you had some time to read the discussion before closing this ITN nomination, but your argument that the story will be automatically added to ongoing once the blurb is outdated means that we will probably wait until the closing ceremony (please pay careful attention how much time does it take for a blurb to get outdated). By this bureaucratic reasoning with no precedent (please take a look at my links in the discussion from the previous Olympics), we're going to leave millions of readers without simple navigation through the most popular event these weeks. Please reconsider your decision. Best regards.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 19:27, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

  • @Kiril Simeonovski: - you seem to be confused as to what exactly I meant there. ITN lists five, or occasionally six, blurbs at any given time. Currently, the Winter Olympics is one of these blurbs, following its posting yesterday. After five newer blurbs are added to the template via WP:ITN/C, the Winter Olympics will be moved to ongoing, having slipped from its blurb listing by other events. Thus, for the entire duration of the event, it will be listed at ITN in some capacity - fear not, as we will not leave millions of readers without simple navigation. There is no reason to give both a blurb and ongoing listing to the same item, and there is already consensus to move the item to ongoing once the blurb has become outdated by other stories, so the nomination is redundant. I hope that this allays your concerns about the closure. Thanks. Stormy clouds (talk) 20:19, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
If you wish for the Winter Olympics to be listed simultaneously as a blurb and at ongoing, feel free to reopen the nomination, but make it explicitly clear that this is your intention. In my view, such a proposal would be overkill, but you are free to make it nonetheless. Stormy clouds (talk) 20:21, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
I know what you mean but, as indicated in my first message above, I fear that we would wait until the closing ceremony for five newer blurbs that would move this to ongoing. I also don't see any problem to have it in ongoing along with a blurb when that used to be a common practice for all previous Olympics. Best.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 21:43, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
@Kiril Simeonovski: - reopened item at ITN/C.

Gerry Adams and the IRA

First, thanks for withdrawing the nomination. Secondly I just wanted to let you know that there was nothing wrong with mentioning Adams alleged connections to the IRA. Those allegations have been the subject of extensive reporting by innumerable RS sources and there is not the slightest legal risk in acknowledging their existence. They are also well covered in his article. I am a little surprised that Iridescent would make that kind of statement. Perhaps they did not express themself clearly. -Ad Orientem (talk) 22:26, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, @Ad Orientem: I tend to get a bit jumpy when WP:BLP is thrown about, so I am very glad to be informed that I did not violate the policy. Stormy clouds (talk) 22:31, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

Pings

Hi. Thanks for trying to notify users when you answer their Teahouse questions, but just to note that they won't receive a notification if you add a user link template to an existing post, as you did here. See Wikipedia:Notifications#Triggering events for an explanation. Cordless Larry (talk) 17:11, 15 February 2018 (UTC) @Cordless Larry: - did not know that. Thanks. Stormy clouds (talk) 17:46, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

thanks for the feedback on the JZS edits

Thanks--I'm the author of the piece on JZS that's cited there and while I certainly get the need to authenticate, and apart from appending the email that invited me to write that piece, how would you signify that the AAR commissioned it? Rtmccutch (talk) 20:46, 22 February 2018 (UTC)

@Rtmccutch: I fixed the reference for you. You need to use a formatted reference, as I did (eventually) in these diffs. However, if you are editing the article having been commissioned to do so, or if you knew the subject personally, you may have a conflict of interest in editing the article. In this case, I would suggest that you do not edit the page directly, or declare your COI on your userpage. Stormy clouds (talk) 20:50, 22 February 2018 (UTC)

Thanks

Hello Stormy clouds. This is outstanding and so well said. Thanks for the clarity and for bringing a smile to my afternoon. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 21:06, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

@MarnetteD: - I live to serve, and find that poets are better at locating that severe yet playful tone than I could ever aspire to be. Glad that you enjoyed it. Stormy clouds (talk) 21:08, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

Dragone - Translation of the article of my company from French to English

Dear Stormy clouds,

I am Asdesas4 and I had a short conversation with you 1 month ago here in the Teahouse.

I would like to submit an English Wikipedia page for my company: Dragone. I presented myself as a paid contributor in my presentation page. I also followed a training to write correctly a Wikipedia article. Actually, the French Wikipedia page for Dragone already exists. It has been discussed, corrected and validated by many contributors. Now people update it regularly. So I'm convinced that this English page should be an asset for the English encyclopedia. Fortunately one of my colleague speaks a better English than me so she helped me with the translation

May I ask you to read this translated version as you suggested in the Teahouse, please?

And can you just tell me your feeling about the objectivity of the article or any other critics that I may encounter?

Or can you lead me to another contributor who can advise me before I submit the article to be published?

Here is the page: Dragone English in my sandbox

And the published French version: Dragone French

Thank you in advance,

Asdesas4 (talk) 09:23, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

Great work, Asdesas4. I have begun copy-editing for a proper tone, but the amount of references indicates that notability is there, and the translation, while not perfect, is adept. Stormy clouds (talk) 10:58, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
Thank you so much Stormy clouds for your help and your quick answer, it is very appreciated!
I recognize that I worked a lot in it and that I did my very best.
Of course feel free to correct and improve the version directly in my Sandbox.
As I previously collected a lot of newspapers articles related to the company and his shows, I can deliver more source of information for every facts.
Best regards,
Asdesas4 (talk) 11:21, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
I have reviewed the entire article, and it is referenced to a sufficient standard and reasonably well written at this juncture. Issues with tone still persist, and the Shows section may be too long and require structural rework. Moreover, some of the article is still promotional in tone, but I lack the expertise and knowledge about the company to fix it. However, if you wish, I would suggest liaising with some of the regulars at the Articles for Creation process and ask them to vet it before submitting. Hope this helps. Stormy clouds (talk) 12:18, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
Thank you for your precious time and for your excellent advices. That was exactly what I expected. I will work again to avoid a promotional tone, that's very not the goal of this article.
I understand and will respect your improvements. But I'l have to correct the first sentence for example. Dragone is a company that create shows and specialized in making related theaters. So I think that it's very important that the word appears in the beginning.
I will try to get more help by following your link to summarize the "Shows" section and to avoid any critic about the tone. Once again, thank you for your help!
--Asdesas4 (talk) 08:22, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Your ITN RD nom for Jesus Christ

Both the nom itself and the closing statement brought a smile to my face. Great job! –FlyingAce✈hello 21:31, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

FlyingAce - thanks. I aim to please. Stormy clouds (talk) 23:16, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the thanks! ITSQUIETUPTOWN talk • contribs 14:35, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

@Itsquietuptown: - thanks for thanking me for the thanks. Do you walk alone to the store? Stormy clouds (talk) 14:37, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

Dead links

Hello, please don't remove dead links in articles; just fix/archive them as it says in the above-linked guideline. In the case of Jan Cameron (coach), the link you removed *should* be working but isn't ... I've emailed the New Zealand Herald about it. You might find the "Fix dead links" function on the history page useful ... the "Add archives to all non-dead references" checkbox in that tool shouldn't be checked though. Graham87 04:01, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

@Graham87: - apologies. Was not familiar with the above policy, and after trawling through the NZH archives for some time, I decided that it was a lost cause. Sincerest apologies - will not occur again. Stormy clouds (talk) 06:35, 3 May 2018 (UTC)
Oh, I've just found out that you nominated Jan's article for ITN! As the person who expanded her article to mention her coaching career, thanks very much for that. I'm glad I was able to make the article good enough for it to be posted on the Main Page.
Also, I hope you don't mind that I put this thread back on your talk page. When I went to reply to it, I didn't expect you to remove it at all ... resolved discussions are not removed; talk page discussions are archived after a month at the very least. Graham87 04:48, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
@Graham87: - thanks. Stormy clouds (talk) 06:41, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

ok thank you.

thank you for your response but you also said that all conservatives belive that the media is left wing while it is left winged I think that you calling out every conservative is quite unfair thank you and have a good day.hello nice to meet you. 21:08, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

@Adultcartoonlover56: - I never said that all conservatives believe that the media is leftist, so don't distort my words. Nor did I call out every conservative. Per this article, my claim is encyclopedically accurate and will remain. As these conservative claims of liberal bias in media are sourced from reliable sources, they are valid on Wikipedia. In regards to the response, you are welcome. If you have any further issues, please raise them in the Teahouse, rather than here, so as to maintain continuity in the discussion. Thanks, Stormy clouds (talk) 21:15, 11 May 2018 (UTC).

Note

I wanted to talk about 1982 formula 1 world championship GA review. Kpgjhpjm (talk) 15:48, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

@Kpgjhpjm: - then you should have specified that, rather than creating an unnecessary mess. Besides, if you lack the capability to complete that GA review, you likely should not be conducting any of them. Regards, Stormy clouds (talk) 18:39, 12 May 2018 (UTC).

Thank you for the note

Hi Stormy Clouds. Thank you so much for reaching out to remind me to sign my name at the end of each talk page I edit. I'm still getting my feet wet with this platform, so I appreciate the heads up. Would you have any suggestions of places I can go to get a little more practice editing on Wikipedia?TrueNeutral14 (talk) 23:30, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

@TrueNeutral14: - sincerest welcome to Wikipedia. You seem as though you have the capacity to be a brilliant contributor to the encyclopedia, and I admire your desire to hone your skills before editing the mainspace articles directly. Unquestionably the best place for you to do so is in your sandbox, where you can edit with impunity, and practice the various scripts applied in editing. For an example of this, look no further than my own sandbox, where I have worked unhindered on a template for the Top 25 Report. As such the sandbox is the area in which you can refine your editing techniques. Best of luck, and do not hesitate to ask any further questions of me, either here or at the Teahouse. I'll do my best to assist - Stormy clouds (talk) 23:40, 9 July 2018 (UTC).

List of India national football team hat-tricks

Hi Stormy clouds. The FL star being on top of that article was a clear error. Most likely, the article creator copied some of the formatting from a similar list that was an FL, including the template that generates the star. I just removed the formatting here, which fixed the problem. Thanks for that eagle-eyed discovery. Giants2008 (Talk) 17:07, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

@Giants2008: - thanks for the fix. Stormy clouds (talk) 17:39, 16 July 2018 (UTC)


Red Velvet - #Cookie Jar Mini-Album source.

Hi Stormy Clouds, I was wondering if https://redvelvet-jp.net/discography/detail.php?id=1015795 would be a better source for the mini-album source, instead of the Australian page. It seems to be a more direct source. Do you agree?

Parotrore (talk) 22:13, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

@Parotrore: - I toyed with using it but decided not to as SBS is a more reliable source, and is not self-published. However, including both would be fine in my view. Stormy clouds (talk) 22:15, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
 Done - [1]. Stormy clouds (talk) 22:17, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
@Stormy clouds: - Good point about reliable sources. In my head the redvelvet-jp page seemed more official, but SNS would be better recognized by Western audiences as reliable. Using both like you just did was a good idea. Parotrore (talk) 22:24, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

Title track vs. Lead single

Hey Stormy clouds, I was curious about your opinion on something.

I'm seeing a lot of pages using the word "title track" when the track in question does not share the same name as the album. Is it still appropriate to call it a title track in that case?

The Perfect Velvet album page says "...with the lead single (called "title track" in Korea) "Peek-a-Boo".", however there's no source given for such a statement.

Some examples: The Red Summer with the track Red Flavor, Twicetagram with the track Likey, Purple (EP) with the track Yes I Am etc.

Because it's been used a lot, did title track get a second meaning or is it wrong to use it in this way?

Parotrore (talk) 21:53, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

@Parotrore: - your comprehension of the term, as far as I am concerned, is completely correct. If the song does not have the same name as the album, it is not a title track. If it is the first single released, it is the lead single. They are not mutually exclusive - a song can be both, but it isn't necessarily the case. For instance, Thriller is the title track from the album of the same name, but it is not the lead single - The Girl is Mine is. Unless they have a citation to say that the terms are synonymous in Korea, then removal would be apt in my view, as its use, unless shared by reliable sources, is incorrect. Stormy clouds (talk) 22:08, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
@Stormy clouds: - Thanks for answering. It's a weird phenomenon and I don't know what started it. It's so widespread now that I don't see myself getting anything done by changing some pages, I feel like I'm in the minority who thinks this even. Every time I read title track like that I can't help but notice, haha. Parotrore (talk) 22:46, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
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