User talk:Stacey Hicken Smith

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Take Us Home: Leeds United (October 10)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by WikiDan61 were:  The comment the reviewer left was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.
WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 11:57, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Conflict of interest[edit]

Information icon Hello, Stacey Hicken Smith. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on the page Draft:Take Us Home: Leeds United, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:

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I note on this series' IMDB page that the production credits include Stacey Hicken as production designer and production director. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 12:19, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hi!
That's correct I worked on the film so I am able to confirm all facts relating to film and share some stills. Stacey Hicken Smith (talk) 12:55, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Take Us Home: Leeds United (October 10)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by WikiDan61 was:  The comment the reviewer left was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.
WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 12:55, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Take Us Home: Leeds United (October 10)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by WikiDan61 was:  The comment the reviewer left was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.
WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 13:00, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]


I'm not going to decline your draft again just yet, but I have concerns about it that must be addressed:

  1. The article omits the fact that the series is funded by Eleven Studios,[1] owned by Leeds United's owner Andrea Radrizzani. As noted by The Guardian, the series has the feel of propaganda, and this funding is a major factor in this.
  2. The article still needs more citations, specifically to verify the "Best Documentary Series" and "Best Use of Music and Sound" awards.

I attribute the first oversight to your conflict of interest regarding the topic, which is problematic. The second oversight should be easily enough resolved by finding the proper news story to verify these awards. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 13:17, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Rushden, Max (16 August 2019). "Russell Crowe, Kalvin Phillips' gran and hope – Leeds documentary has it all (apart from Bielsa)". The Guardian.
Hi again,
The series was funded by Amazon Prime who paid for both series.
The City Talking made the show and had full creative control, along with Amazon’s input and sign off.
I will add the link to the awards now. 188.28.191.84 (talk) 13:25, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'm still concerned. Are you claiming that The Guardian's reporting about Eleven Studios is wrong? Also, I note that you have claimed that the series won two RTS awards, and have even cited an RTS article to verify that fact, but the series is not listed among the winners at Royal Television Society Programme Awards. After some digging, I realize that this is because the Take Us Home... series won the Yorkshire Regional awards, not the national awards. This is yet another examples of where your personal conflict of interest comes into play, which is why Wikipedia discourages editors from writing about projects they have been involved in. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 13:55, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'm unsure how work is supposed to be logged historically on Wikipedia if someone connected to the work is not allowed to log it? I am trying to add the show so it is logged in history and information regarding the show can be shared and not lost. The RTS awards are RTS awards, if regional needs to be added then that's no issue, or it can be removed all together, there's nothing else at play here. I've also removed the guardian article because yes, the series was ultimately funded by Amazon Prime who have exclusive rights for multiple territories for 5 years. Stacey Hicken Smith (talk) 14:07, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia is not a log of everything that has ever existed. It is encyclopedia that covers notable subjects. In general, people unconnected with the project would be the ones to create an article about it. As someone connected to the project, your better path would have been to request an article that someone unconnected would then have written if they felt the project merited inclusion. As it is, you've created a draft, and other editors can evaluate the draft to see if they choose to publish it. That is actually a much more common path to publication these days; the Requested Articles process seems to have dried up as far as I can tell. As for removing The Guardian as a source, that doesn't change the fact of what they've reported. Do you dispute their facts? Did Eleven Studios not fund the production of this series? Yes, it's clear that Amazon has picked up the series for broadcast, but that doesn't speak to the initial motivation for making the series. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 14:21, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Take Us Home: Leeds United has been accepted[edit]

Take Us Home: Leeds United, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

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Bennv123 (talk) 08:18, 11 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]