User talk:SlamDiego/Archive 11
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Belated Thanks[edit]
Thanks SlamDiego, for reverting the vandalism to my userpage. Sorry I haven't gotten back so fast, you reverted it so fast I didn't even notice! --JDitto 19:46, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
Was it really paradoxical? The Behnam 17:50, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
- Sure it was. It what sense are those who don't follow some leader his or hers? —SlamDiego←T 17:56, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
- I thought it referred to those who follow him falsely, as in those who may associate with him but do not truly believe in him and show loyalty. If this is the case, I write another "his" for parallel structure. The Behnam 16:01, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
- Ah, but a false follower does not really follow falsely; a false follower does not follow at all, but falsifies following.
- In the case of the sheep and the goats, the false followers falsify being his followers, rather than falsifying all sorts of following. Presumably he thinks that they are ultimately followers of Satan, as he elsewhere says that those who are not for him are against him.
- It is the nuances that create the paradoxes here. Now, the fact that a construction is paradoxical doesn't make it wrong, but it does tend to disrupt thinking. Sometimes that disruption is useful — wakes the reader up and all that — but what actual benefit does the reader get from it in the case of “Domestic goat”? (I won't necessarily fight paradoxical expression here if you can show that it captures a benefit.)
- —SlamDiego←T 21:44, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
- Does that paradox really hinge upon the "his?" It seems that the problem is in describing a follower as "false" because a false follower is not really a follower. The Behnam 17:14, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
- Well, more than one thing contributes to the paradox on this particular case, but I think that “his” is the immediate problem. If we could modify “his follower” with “false” just as we can modify plain “follower” with “false”, then we could say “false his follower” and be understood to mean one who falsified following him. It's “his” that resists this hypothetical repositioning. I can use “toy soldier's boat” or “soldier's toy boat”, but I cannot use “toy his boat”.
- (The phrase “toy soldier's boat” is nonetheless somewhat ambiguous. Even if we set aside reading it as intended to mean the same thing as “toy boat of a soldier”, it could be a toy boat associated with a toy soldier, or a real boat associated with a toy soldier. The latter could obtain if the toy soldier was transported by ship.)
- —SlamDiego←T 19:01, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
I'm having another go at motivating people to comment in this discussion, hopefully things can be gotten moving again. Would you drop by and comment further? WjBscribe 03:34, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
- SlamDiego, I'm posting here for the sake of convenience and so as not to bury my comment in your Orchives. I concede my point on the Phi Kappa Psi page and in the mediation. Though it has taken me some time to come to this conclusion, I trust that you will: 1) agree with me, at least on this point; 2) accept my concession and continue to help maintain the page. If anyone wants to post evidence to the contrary of what's up on the Phi Kappa Psi page already, there are ways for them to do so while preserving the debate at hand, which can be discussed on the talk page if the poster somehow has a new point, which, considering the length of (mainly) our discussion, strikes me as unlikely. I appreciate the time you spent making your point, and I apologize for being unable until recently to see its merit. RJ 05:18, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
- Comments should not, in any case, be made by editting someone's archives or orc hives. Instead, if one wants to reply to something in an archive, the thing to do is to copy-and-paste enough of that to which one wishes to reply, and put it and the reply on the talk page.
- I am pretty sick of Wikipedia right now. I don't know how actively I'll be editting anything.
- —SlamDiego←T 05:39, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
Comma Usage Discussion[edit]
SlamDiego, I proposed a change to the WP Manual of Style on dates (WP: Dates) to reflect that, in the American usage, the year is set off by two commas: one before the year, and one after the year (unless some other punctuation follows the year). I'm getting the usual responses, which amount to "I don't like it." Have you come across any sources other than the Chicago Manual of Style?Lowell33 15:04, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
- Sorry, no, I haven't. (I am disgusted enough that I have had to refer to a manual of style at all, as this is really a matter of logic.) I rather doubt that those who won't attend to the Chicago Manual will attend to any other reference, but if you feel that one might help then my best suggestion is that you find the time to visit a university, both popping-in to see English instructors (to get suggested references) and prowling the library. Best of luck. —SlamDiego←T 03:59, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
TV pgs[edit]
I 'm astonished at the fact that MANY wiki pages exist that shouldn't , while others that shold exist remain non-existant. Here are some that should be created.
Many are American TV writers/novelists/playwrights/producers/directors/media personalities who've been NOTABLE in their chosen profession for more than 10 years & have recieved numerous acclaim in the form of award nominations & wins: Dave vonKleist, The Power Hour, Genesis Communications Network, David Shaughnessy (ex-Executive Producer of Y&R), David Goldschmid (writer on General Hospital), Tracey Thomson (writer on General Hospital), David Hiltbrand, Burton Armus (Emmy nominated writer of NYPD Blue), Neil Landau (writer with many credits to his name), David Schulner, Mathilde Ferro, BigMuscle, dudesnude, hegelian
Robert Mason Pollack, Joan Binder Weiss, Sibyl Gardner, Conal O'Brien, Angela Tessinari, Mary O'Leary, Cynthia M. Jervey, Doris Silverton, Jeanne Davis Glynn, Tim Citrano, Jack Urbont, The Bahler Brothers, David Rupel, Shelly Moore, Mark Teschner (award winning Casting Director of General Hospitall for more than a decade!), Nancy Ford (co-wrote the 1st ep of Ryan's Hope)
Cornelius Crane, Ginger Redmon, Royal Miller, recast, Bruce S. Barry, Lynda Myles, Christine R. Magarian, Josh Reims, Patricia Wenig, Eric L. Roberts (protege of William J. Bel), Nancy Bradley Wiard, Jill W. Newton (ex-casting director of Y&R), Esther G. Hudak, Robert E. Costello, David Robert Kanter, Miriam Trogdon
Josh Reims, Dana Baratta, Patty Lin, Diane Messina Stanley, Michael Berns, Alfonso H. Moreno, Valerie Woods, Peter Frisch, Tony Morina, Tina Andrews, Norma Safford Vela, Doris Quinlan (ex-EP of ABC's AMC), Robert Cenedella, Lyle B. Hill, N. Gail Lawrence, Judy Blye Wilson, James A. Baffico, Michael Eilbaum, Sofia Landon Geier, Richard J. Allen, Johnson-Liff Associates, Robert Soderberg
Dorothy Ann Purser, Elizabeth R. Woodman, Mary K. Wells, Joan D'Inecco (casting director of AMC for about 20 years), John Saffron, Bud Kloss, Jacqueline Babbin, Bill Wolf, Ralph Ellis, Maria Wagner (winner-Best Directing-ATWT-2007 Daytime Emmy), Elizabeth Harrower (wirter), Joseph Behar, Judith Pinsker, John C. Zak, Marlene Clark Poulter, Charlotte Savitz, Joyce Corrington, Steven M. Wasserman
Maria Arena, Story Consultant, David Bennett Carren, Steve Kent (ex-TV producer-Capitol; TV exec for Sony Pictures), Sherman Alexie, Randall Harris, Ana Castillo, Quinn Eli, Robyn Hatcher, Ginger Smith, Robert Scinto, Tracey Bryggman, Samuel D. Ratcliffe, Patti DiZenzo, Caroline Franz, John Kuntz, Paul Lammers, Robert Calhoun, John Boruff, Ron Weaver
William Kelley (wrote the 1st ep of the 82-87 TV series Capitol), Anne M. Schoettle, Corday Productions Inc., Gary Donatelli, Leslie Kwartin, Larry Carpenter, Susan-Sojourna Collier, Grant A. Johnson, Valerie Ahern, Deborah Joy Levine (writer of Any Day Now & Strong Medicine), Randall Caldwell, Stephen Wyman (Soon to be ex-EP of DOOL), Jeff Koz
Julia Jordan, Nina Tassler, John PiRoman, William R. Keates, Michelle Patrick, Nancy Williams Watt, Jill Lorie Hurst, Anna Fricke, Maralyn Thoma (ex-Head Writer of ABC's GH), James Fryman, David Cherrill (ex-Head Writer of Search For Tomorrow), Fred Bartholomew, Jean Arley, George Lehane, Randy J. Robbins, Betty Rothenberg, Marlena Laird
Maxine Levinson (ex EP of OLTL), Jim Sayegh, Nancy Curlee, Hal Corley, Mike Denney (longtime director of Y&R; left in May 2007), Tina McElroy Ansa, Nina Shengold, Marina Alburger, Jenelle Lindsay, Andrea Lee (author of Interested Women), Frank South (writer of Melrose Place, John Fisher (Worked on Y&R for more than a decade. He's the Co-ordinating Producer on the highest rated American daytime drama), Jeanne Glynn, Ellis Marcus, Cindy Jerney Prial
Cathy Coote, Faces of The Heart, William Dale Smith, Alan Pultz, David Smilow, Annamarie Kostura (VP of NBC Daytime; ex-casting director of OLTL), Dave Grusin, David Pressman, Larry Starkey, Jack Turley, A.J. Russell, Marvin Paige, Dwight D. Smith, Peter Brinckerhoff, Carol Saraceno, Bob Bardo
Charles Rosin, Gene Palumbo, John Chambers (longtime writer on The Bold And The Beautiful; left in May 07), Mark St. Germain, Jennifer Crusie, Mary Ryan, Ken Corday, Mark Alton Brown, Anthony Morina (American TV producer/director), Jill Ackles (TV director for more than a decade), Noel Maxam, Sally McDonald, Dean LaMont, Danielle Faraldo, Matthew Diamond (directed a 07 ep of Desperate Housewives; directs about 55 eps of General Hospital each year since 2005), Michael Montgomery, Marnie Saitta
Lisa Leiberman, Selig J. Seligman, Phil Sogard, Robert J. Shaw, Larry Auerbach, S. Michael Schnessel, Mel Brez, Lanie Bertram, Margaret DePriest, Craig McManus, William Ludel (Longtime TV director-at least 20 years), Owen Renfroe, Ron Cates (music composer/TV director on many projects incl. General Hospital, Chris Van Etten, Frances Myers, Leslie Nipkow, Cameron Stracher, Aida Croal, Story Coordinator
Janet Iacobuzio (ex-Head Writer of General Hospital), Casey Childs, Steven Williford, Conson Studios Inc., Rudy Vejar, Judi Ann Mason, Brian Mertes, Betty Rea, Robert Short, Michael Lindsay-Hogg (directed 1st ep of ABC's Loving), Paul Avila Mayer, Marc Beruti, Shannon Bradley, Kevin Kielty, Writer's Assistant, Matthew C. Jacobs
Once again, way too many pages on wiki need to be deleted, while way too many need to be created a.s.a.p. All you have to do is an Internet search on Yahoo on each of the aforementioned names in quotations. (Eg. "William Ludel"). I hope that Wiki can be a much better source of info for all who seek knowledge. Thanks!
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.51.243.50 (talk • contribs)
Are you using this? Self redirects cause double redirect issues. -- Cat chi? 09:42, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
- I've removed the redirect. When I created the self-redirect, it was to test how Wikipedia software would respond. (I had rather expect the software to immediately reject the edit). —SlamDiego←T 10:39, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
AfD nomination of Bus ministry[edit]
Bus ministry, an article you created, has been nominated for deletion. We appreciate your contributions. However, an editor does not feel that Bus ministry satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in the nomination space (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and the Wikipedia deletion policy). Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bus ministry and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Bus ministry during the discussion but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Sasha Callahan 06:14, 8 October 2007 (UTC)