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County Police

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Re: Unnecessary Information

Hello. First of all, Wikipedia isn't a democracy, and users don't vote on every change to an article. If a change is widely-seen as controversial, then it is brought up for discussion, where a consensus is reached. Second, I've been here for a pretty long time, and I like to think that I have a fair idea of what a good article looks like. For example:

• Detailed information about ranks isn't necessary since most police forces share the same rank system and thus the information is redundant and/or common sense.
• Furthermore, the "fleet" section is also unnecessary for the same reasons as above. Most police agencies use standard-issue Impalas or Crown Vics, so it's redundant/common sense/unimportant.
• Information about officers who have been killed in the line of duty is a grayer area, but generally isn't included in articles about police forces unless their deaths were unusual or part of a larger incident that made headlines. It's not because we don't honor their sacrifice, but that their deaths aren't notable enough for inclusion. For example, the NYPD article only mentions the number of officers they have lost.

Remember that the Sheriff's Office is a relatively small agency in the sea of police forces. Even the county police lacks an article here, and I'm fairly certain that they are considerably larger. In these cases, where the Sheriff's Office may be seen by some as non-notable altogether, it is important to include only pertinent information in the article. Also, do you work for the Sheriff's Office? I ask because you seem to be fairly defensive and protective of this article. In articles where we care greatly about a subject or have a vested interest, it is important for all of us to take a step back and look at our own biases, which I urge you to do.

Additionally, please work on being civil to other users, and understand that no one owns the articles here (read the links). Thanks. --Tom (talk - email) 15:51, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Please read the following policy articles:

• Ownership of articles: You have forfeited ownership of what you have written under the terms of the GFDL. These are not your articles to defend, and anyone else has just as much of a right to change your text. That is the fundamental purpose of a wiki.
• Neutral point of view (specifically undue weight): Articles should not give their subjects a glowy appearance, nor should they lambaste them. An article should not overemphasize minor or obscure aspects related to it.

It is also my "job" as an editor to make sure articles maintain those standards, as well as all of the other polices. I have just as much of a right to edit articles as you do. In fact, any editor has the right to enforce policy, whether or not they are an administrator.

In addition, many of your contributions are not formatted correctly:

• Michael Jackson (sheriff) is how a page is disambiguated; do not add an honorific before a person's name in the title.
• Do not remove categories from an article unless they are clearly inaccurate.
• Do not use bolding excessively.

Finally, and most importantly, your tone is uncivil and you have been unwilling to adjust to the rules and policies of the project. Hostility will only hinder your cause, and you risk being blocked from editing for disruption. --Tom (talk - email) 21:57, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

You are taking this personally and are becoming defensive. I am not attacking you nor am I removing your information "in spite", so keep a cool head. I understand you may have spent a lot of time on the article, but you need to realize that other people have different opinions. In fact, another editor has been reverting some of your additions, too. Instead of accusing me of being "ignorant", "arrogant", "immature", "juvenile", of having "NOTHING better to do", and so forth, perhaps you should look at your own actions and consider your behavior. Additionally, calling my actions vandalism is not helping your argument at all.

As for the block warning, be aware that it is not because I disagree with you. People disagree with each other all the time here, and it rarely results in a block. However, your behavior is aggressive, threatening, demanding, and involves several personal attacks on my talk page (i.e., your comments quoted above). The community takes behavior very seriously in an effort to create a collegial and positive environment, so I am gently warning you a second time to calm down and comment on the content, not the contributor.

Regarding the content of the article itself, any discussion of that would be more appropriate on the article's talk page. --Tom (talk - email) 04:39, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry you feel that way, but there isn't any reason to be defeatist. I apologize if I came off harsh, but all I ask is that you refrain from personal attacks and consider being flexible. Is that an unreasonable request? You seem to be a member of the Sheriff's Office, so you certainly understand how important it is to keep a cool head. Let's work together to create a good article, and remember that people will disagree with you here. I've gone through and made some cosmetic adjustments to the article, but I left most of the content in place, so see what you think. Also, thanks for creating an article on the county police. --Tom (talk - email) 04:14, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Your recent edits

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Cutting, pasting, and copyright

Please do not cut and paste copyrighted material into Wikipedia articles. For example, you have repeatedly put material from this article into Kwanzaa. Apart from the fact that you're attempting to use an opinion piece as a reliable source, the copyright violation is not acceptable. --jpgordon^∇∆∇∆ 22:48, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Fair enough. User: Sallicio —Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.161.83.131 (talk) 23:16, 8 December 2007 (UTC)