User talk:MelanieN/Archive 82

Donkey Hodie (TV series)

It's worth noting that Ripple346 has been indeffed. While cleaning up after their disruption, I noticed a section on their user page which was quite inappropriate and had it removed through request to rfpp, that combined with subsequent incivility on their talk page led to the block being converted to indefinite. As you may have surmised I'm not a fan of 10mmsocket's behavior either. But since Ripple346 is unlikely to be unblocked for some time, possibly six-months or longer. And since the conflict between those editors was the source of the disruption, I see no reason why the page would need to be fully-protected. Admittedly there isn't too much to be lost by it remaining protected for 48 hours either but the default state of the encyclopedia should be unprotected. I hope you'll take this under advisement. 2A03:F80:32:194:71:227:81:1 (talk) 21:08, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for your note. Please see my comment on the article talk page. -- MelanieN (talk) 21:24, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

I agree that talk page discussion should be encouraged, albeit agnostic as to whether the protection is the best tool available for accomplishing that goal. But I just don't see the same level of disruption recurring in the absence of conflict between those two editors.

Like I said, my assessment is that it probably won't make a difference either way, so best restore things to their default state but its just a suggestion and ultimately one I don't feel at all strongly about. I'm certainly not here to badger you over ADMINACT or anything like that, and if your assessment is different I'll respect that. I didn't even know that page existed until yesterday when I dropped by to do a REVERTBAN and I couldn't care less about any of the disputes over it's content. I don't know the first thing about the guidelines that govern TV series to even form an opinion, and I've always thought that getting overly bogged on minutia is silly anyway because nothing is written in stone. Compare the diffs of even the core content policies now to those of ten years ago, and the difference is substantial.

There was a joke a long time ago that the worst thing that could ever happen to you was getting a page to look exactly the way you like it, because from then on you were doomed to revertwar forever with the certain knowledge that eventually it would be rewritten over your objections no matter what you did.

Anyway what I do have an opinion on is that the encyclopedia should be unprotected to the maximum extent practical, even a 24-hour semi should only be implemented when it's the least bad option. But I also respect that some people feel differently and that the community as a whole has become far more accepting of page protection in general over time. Sorry for the length. Cheers, 2A03:F80:32:194:71:227:81:1 (talk) 21:50, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

No apology necessary. Different people do have different philosophies about protection. My own philosophy is here: User:MelanieN/Page protection. Sometimes, as in this case, I think full protection can be justified as an attempt to get people to actually TALK to each other about why they want certain material in or out of the article - instead of just reverting, or stating their preferences in edit summaries. If they (you) do actually use the talk page, so much the better. If not - well, the protection is short term. -- MelanieN (talk) 22:48, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

Well, in response to several requests, and to the fact that the autoconfirmed edit warrior has been blocked, I have unlocked the page. -- MelanieN (talk) 03:47, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

GOBA Foundation

Submitting draft of template protected page from creation Draft:GOBA_Foundation. Is it ok for creation? Thank you. Brainfrogk4mon (talk) 22:04, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Brainfrogk4mon, and thanks for the note. No, I’m afraid this draft is nowhere near ready to become an article. Not all organizations can have an article at Wikipedia; see WP:NORG. In order to have an article it would need to contain much more information, and it would need to have multiple independent references - in other words, reporting ABOUT this organization by news or other outside sources, not just the organization’s own information about itself. Your draft is one sentence, and the only source is the organization’s own web page. Just now I searched to see if I could find any independent reporting about the organization, and I couldn't. I'm sure it is a fine organization, but not all organizations qualify for an article in this encyclopedia, and this one doesn't. Sorry.

BTW there are multiple other organizations also called GOBA Foundation, such as the Greater Orlando Builders Association Foundation and the one which was originally deleted, the Global One Belt One Road Association Foundation. None of them qualify for an article here. You are new here; I would suggest for now you limit yourself to making improvements to existing articles, until you learn a little more about this encyclopedia and what kind of subjects go into it. -- MelanieN (talk) 17:14, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

The Knights who say Nact!

I require two shrubberies (diff)... El_C 02:26, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

No worries. 'Tis but a flesh wound. -- MelanieN (talk) 02:33, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Welcome to the Autonomous Collective! El_C 02:42, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Actually I am not part of the collective; I am Who, the one that lived in that castle. In later years I lived on first base. -- MelanieN (talk) 02:50, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

trolling

Hi Melanie. I seem to have attracted an editor who's trolling my contributions and making problematic reverts. Is there any protocol for addressing the situation? Thanks. --Kent Dominic·(talk) 17:06, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi, Kent! Thanks for the note but I'm afraid I' not going to be able to help you; I have been online very little this week due to Real Life stuff. A suggestion: if you ask someone else, or at an admin board, be sure to give more information. Names, links, something. Nobody is going to want to search through your contributions trying to figure out what or who you are talking about. Here's hoping the problem goes away! -- MelanieN (talk) 02:17, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

Thanks anyway. It was worth a shot. Hope your Real Life Stuff is going well. --Kent Dominic·(talk) 10:51, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

Extended confirmed protection for Criminal stereotype of African Americans

Hi Melanie, I saw in the log that you protected the article in 2019. It seems its currently needed again. The last 10 edits contain three counts of vandalism. Things like "stereotype (mostly true)". Could you reinstate 30/500 protection? Thanks Trimton (talk) 02:44, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi, Trimton, and thanks for the alert. The article definitely does need protection, probably long term. I gave it three months for now. But it doesn't need 30/500 protection; regular semi-protection did the job before and should do it again. -- MelanieN (talk) 14:28, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

oh, right, I forgot there's that level. For some reason I thought you had given it 30/500. Many thanks MelanieN, I put the expiration in 3m into my calendar and shall monitor.Trimton (talk) 15:07, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

RPP

Hi! I noticed that you wrote that William Sneed would be protected for 1 year, though I don't think you actually applied protection onto the page. Would you be able to fix this when you get a chance? — Mikehawk10 (talk) 05:29, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

Oops! I sure did say that - and I sure didn't do it. Someone else has now protected it for a month. Let me (or RFPP) know if it still needs it after that. -- MelanieN (talk) 18:42, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

Triangle

• Platinum Triangle, Los Angeles (AfD discussion)

This was your argument, originally. Uncle G (talk) 15:50, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the alert. I responded there. -- MelanieN (talk) 16:33, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

Divya S. Iyer

Hello, you had previously protected this article, and today there were several unexplained deletions by an IP, so I am wondering if you could protect the article again. Many thanks, Beccaynr (talk) 21:12, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Beccaynr, and thanks for the alert. Yes, the article definitely does continue to need protection. I gave it two weeks this time. -- MelanieN (talk) 21:50, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

Thank you very much! Beccaynr (talk) 21:59, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

Hello one discussion

Hello MelanieN.I'm Mathew Munna.I want to ask one thing.Why Wikipedia didn't publish ASHWIN KUMAR LAKSHMIKANTHAN'S Wikipedia page.Is there any problem?Can you tell me the problem? Mathew Munna (talk) 04:10, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Draft AKL

Dear MelanieN and Spaceman,

Could you please review the draft again, I've added additional info on his latest works and references. Hopefully the updates should help his WP:GNG this time. Considering that he is the popular upcoming talent, could you please help us in moving the draft to the main space. I am always grateful for all your valuable inputs and your help in publishing his article will always be much appreciated. Thank you so much. Adapongaiya (talk) 21:54, 23 April 2021 (UTC).

Thank you so much Adapongaiya. I also told to MelanieN to publish ASHWIN KUMAR LAKSHMIKANTHAN'S Wikipedia page publicly.Thank you again for your edits in ASHWIN KUMAR LAKSHMIKANTHAN'S draft page. Mathew Munna (talk) 01:42, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for your notes, Adapongaiya and Mathew Munna. I agree that it is ready to go into the main encyclopedia and I have moved it there. You have done good work expanding this article. I have added hatnotes to distinguish him from Ashwin Kumar.

There are some things you need to do, now that it is an article. You need to add some categories; if you don't know how to do that, ask me. Also, you should try to find other articles where he is mentioned and link them to the new article. How to do that: where the article mentions Ashwin Kumar Lakshmikanthan, add brackets like this: [[Ashwin Kumar Lakshmikanthan]] . -- MelanieN (talk) 16:09, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

Dear MelanieN,

This is my first Wiki page and I am so emotionally attached to it. Thanks a Million for moving it to mainspace. sure, i shall work on the article mentions. Thanks again, you made my day. Adapongaiya (talk) 16:14, 24 April 2021 (UTC).

Dear MelanieN

I'm Mathew Munna.Thank you so much MelanieN.I'm big fan of ASHWIN KUMAR LAKSHMIKANTHAN.That's why I want to create and publish publicly ASHWIN KUMAR LAKSHMIKANTHAN'S Wikipedia page.But Adapongaiya create ASHWIN KUMAR LAKSHMIKANTHAN'S Wikipedia page and you MelanieN moved it to main encyclopedia.Thank you so much again to Adapongaiya and MelanieN. Mathew Munna (talk) 08:57, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

IP editor violating NPA

Melanie N, would you please look into this IP editor [[1]]. They attacked me on the Andy Ngo page as well as on the IP page. Thank you. Springee (talk) 00:29, 26 April 2021 (UTC)