User talk:JeppOne

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Articles by Niccolai, Edoardo

I see that you have added recent articles by "Niccolai, Edoardo" to the articles titled Bounded mean oscillation, Einstein–Cartan theory, and Covariant derivative. You seem to know that a version v4 will be published before it actually appears on arXiV. This makes me think that you might benefit from reading WP:COI.

Additionally, these are published in arXiV and Zenodo rather than more traditional journals. Wikipedia is about well-established realiable information, not cutting edge research that has had little time to be noticed or vetted, and I think that you might benefit from reading WP:N and WP:RELIABLE.

Especially if you are the author of these papers (or a friend or family member) then it might be best that you remove these additions that you have made. —Quantling (talk | contribs) 13:51, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

Version 4 ("Covariant derivative, etc.") was actually available before the update on Wikipedia. In addition, Wikipedia is full of citations of articles from arXiv. It is suffice to cite the case of Grigori Perelman, who solved the Poincaré conjecture by publishing only on arXiv: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grigori_Perelman

Thank you JeppOne (talk) 08:17, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

According to arXiv, version 4 was released "Tue, 25 Apr 2023 16:10:24 UTC". According to Wikipedia, the first time you updated the version to v4 was 11:40, 25 April 2023. From this I conclude the opposite of your statement, that the update to Wikipedia was before the release of the updated source version.

You are citing a primary source paper from a arXiV, which is a source explicitly listed at WP:PREPRINTS as not reliable. You have supplied no evidence of notability of the article you cite, including no evidence that it has ever been cited by any secondary source. With Wikipedia, secondary sources are preferred (WP:SCHOLARSHIP). Absent that, there must be some reason to believe that the source and information is notable (WP:N) and reliable (WP:RELIABLE).

I urge you to undo your own edits that introduced these citations. —Quantling (talk | contribs) 13:14, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

I removed them myself. This is WP:BRD, in the hopes that this will draw other editors into this discussion (though probably on the articles' talk pages rather than here). —Quantling (talk | contribs) 13:25, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

I urge you to find and present evidence to support that the citations you want to insert are notable and reliable. Then you can insert them into the articles with good conscience. (If you insert them without presenting evidence then we will have to do an arbitration process ... where you will be asked to present evidence that the citations are notable and reliable.) Thank you —Quantling (talk | contribs) 14:35, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

Dearest Quantling, check it out here: https://www.edoardoniccolai.com JeppOne (talk) 15:03, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

The existence of those nice web pages is not sufficient. For each paper individually, the ideal evidence is a secondary source (e.g. textbook or news article) that mentions the paper. Citations from primary sources are inferior but we could discuss whether they are sufficient. (If they are self-citations that's a hard case to prove for WP:NOTABILITY.) —Quantling (talk | contribs) 15:25, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

Any citations of these articles, as the author himself—my professor at the Academy (Math section)—announced to me, will come later. Such citations are included in well-known journals with the famous “doi”, but it will take time, as is notoriously the case for peer-reviewed journals.

I thank you in advance for your understanding, and I wish you good working in the meantime. JeppOne (talk) 17:31, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

CS1 error on Bounded mean oscillation

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Now, it's ok JeppOne (talk) 12:33, 29 April 2023 (UTC)

CS1 error on Covariant derivative

Hello, I'm Qwerfjkl (bot). I have automatically detected that this edit performed by you, on the page Covariant derivative, may have introduced referencing errors. They are as follows:

• A "missing periodical" error. References show this error when the name of the magazine or journal is not given. Please edit the article to add the name of the magazine/journal to the reference, or use a different citation template. (Fix | Ask for help)

Please check this page and fix the errors highlighted. If you think this is a false positive, you can report it to my operator. Thanks, Qwerfjkl (bot) (talk) 11:58, 29 April 2023 (UTC)

Now, it's ok JeppOne (talk) 12:34, 29 April 2023 (UTC)