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Proposed deletion of Fryshuset Basket

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Your edits on Aston "Family Man" Barrett

Please review the talk page discussion before doing any further editing/reverting on that article. Thanks. Funcrunch (talk) 20:37, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

Please also review WP:Single-purpose account. Funcrunch (talk) 20:42, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

Edit war notice

Your recent editing history shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war; read about how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you do not violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.

Please stop reverting the hatnote on Aston "Family Man" Barrett without explanation. Thank you. Funcrunch (talk) 22:40, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

What do you want to add, that he is on a lot less albums? Whwn dif you show up? Why is it important to add a link to his son on the page? Jabadaba (talk) 23:25, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

Re the albums, once again, you need reliable sources for any discography entries or other information you want to add to an article. That's especially important for a page that is currently linked from the home page of the encyclopedia (under "Recent deaths"); the lack of sources was holding up that listing. Regardless, the Discography does now say "selected" so it's not implying that he didn't play on, engineer, or produce anything else.

Re the hatnote linking to his son, I'm not the one who added that, another editor did. If you want to remove it, you should discuss why on the talk page. If you keep just removing that or making other reversions without explanation, you will likely be blocked for edit warring. Funcrunch (talk) 23:32, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

I have been on the page for 10 years man. Why and when did you start showing up? Jabadaba (talk) 23:43, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

Notice of edit warring noticeboard discussion

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. Thank you. Funcrunch (talk) 23:42, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

February 2024

You have been blocked from editing from certain pages (Aston "Family Man" Barrett) for a period of 2 weeks for asserting ownership of the article through edit warring and Special:Diff/1205568502. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please review Wikipedia's guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text to the bottom of your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  ~ ToBeFree (talk) 23:59, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

Most of this page I have contributed to for over 10 years. I have found sources from books etc, and it took me many days and hours. The page has been used as a reference, and has had an effect on Aston Barrett’s legacy and reputation. Once he past away suddenly a lot of people started editing. And when it comes to his discography, many people have contributed during many years. But the once I have contributed with all have reliable links to the sources. But those were taken away without any explanation. Therefore l moved all of it back. To remove everything because some of them do not have reliable sources is wrong. Instead remove the once that have not. Also, there’s got to be some sensitivity to that reggae musicians at that time many times were uncredited. Again, all my contributions had sources but were still removed together with the once without sources.

So suspending me after enhancing this page, and after showing hence discussing the page several times with Aston Barret himself, is wrong. I have contributed more than anyone else to this page. 94.191.152.195 (talk) 00:35, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

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Please ensure you are familiar with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, and please do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive. Continued disruptive editing may result in loss of editing privileges. Thank you. Bedivere (talk) 19:49, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

Please stop. If you continue to assume ownership of articles, you may be blocked from editing. Behavior such as this is regarded as disruptive, and is a violation of Wikipedia policy.The quotes belong on Wikiquote, not Wikipedia. Bedivere (talk) 20:39, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

On almost every page of influential people you will find references to what newspapers and colleagues have written or expressed about them, to describe their legacy. Why is that ok but not on this page? Jabadaba (talk) 20:47, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

You've been added whole chunks of quotes without context and not in prose. That is not okay. Such content belongs on Wikiquote, not here. Bedivere (talk) 20:56, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

Sources

I’ve added reliable sources to the albums Aston Barrett played on with Bob Marley, all credited on the albums. I’ve added links to the albums on Wikipedia, just like all other musicians on Wikipedia. Did Aston Barret not play bass on Bob Marley’s albums for Island Records? How can Funcrunch take them away saying they have no sources? Isn’t albums by artists in Wikipedia, if they in their turn have reliable sources, reliable sources? 94.191.152.195 (talk) 00:54, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

If and when another admin reviews the above block, please note these edits removing and restoring the (at that time completely unsourced) discography section from before I ever made any edits to this page myself: 1, 2. Funcrunch (talk) 01:07, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

Notice of edit warring noticeboard discussion

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. The thread is Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring#User:Jabadaba reported by User:Bedivere (Result: ). Thank you. Bedivere (talk) 20:43, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

February 2024

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for edit warring.

During a dispute, you should first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus. If that proves unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please review Wikipedia's guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text to the bottom of your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  ~ ToBeFree (talk) 21:12, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

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Request reason:

In my case I have added quotes from other musicians or magazines to describe the influence of Aston Barrett. If that is acceptebly in prose but not as separate quotes, well then that is one thing to be explained. Pages about Whitney Houston, Jimi Hendrix, classical pianist Arthur Rubinstein, et al, have quotes in them. According to Wikipedia:Quotations quotes are ok. When someone deletes something that took some effort for you to source, that person should explain it better than just referring to Wikiquote (when again quotes are allowed). If the aim is to help each other to make Wikipedia become as informative as possible. Obviously my aim is just that, to make this page as informative as possible. Look at what I added, nothing controversial, but simple quotes by people who have been influenced one way or the other by Mr. Aston Barrett. If someone wants to improve the page by deleting, be so kind as to send a message instead first or at least offer a helpful explanation. For example (if the following is ok according to the rules of Wikipedia - because it is difficult to fully understand?): "Please write a prose with added quotes, then it is all good. Not just quotes". See, that is a helpful explanation. Now again, if this in fact according to the Wikipedia rules in regards to quotes? If it is, then I do understand the difference and look forward to use quotes in the correct way. But blocking me for wanting to keep my well sourced quotes, that have been on the page for years, is that really fair? According to the policy of Wikipedia we are supposed to be helping each other. Referring to something not very clearly explained (Wikipedia:Quotations), and hence so many pages with famous people that have quotes all over them, it is not what you would call trying to be helpful. Jabadaba (talk) 22:39, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

Decline reason:

You seem to be trying to justify your edit warring, not describe why it was incorrect. Being correct with your edits is not a defense, as everyone in an edit war thinks that their edits are correct. You will need to tell us what you will do to resolve editing disputes without edit warring, even if you are correct with the edit. 331dot (talk) 00:05, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

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I placed your reason where it said "your reason here" as intended. 331dot (talk) 00:02, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who accepted the request.

Jabadaba (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

Your reason here Jabadaba (talk) 03:50, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

Accept reason:

User agrees to exercise the many alternatives to edit waring.-- Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:27, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

I don not think I should have been blocked as I only made one revert, plus I was not behaving in a bad manner. To avoid edit warring I will next time first discuss the differences to see if we could reach an agreement. I am also reading up on the rules and regulations of Wikipedia, to become more precise in my editing.

Why would this time be different, as you were just blocked for edit warring? -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 03:59, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

@ToBeFree: Maybe I'm too strident. Is what we have here enough to unblock?-- Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:39, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

@ToBeFree: Unblocking(?) -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:12, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

Oh, sorry. I must have either overlooked the ping or somehow waited to reply. One moment please. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 20:13, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

Mh. Okay, I was probably so unconvinced that I didn't reply first and then forgot to do so later. But the block was placed quickly and could be placed quickly again if needed. Deepfriedokra, feel free to unblock. Sorry for the late response. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 20:18, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

@ToBeFree: No problem and it took me a very long time to circle back, so it all worked out -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:25, 13 March 2024 (UTC)