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Regarding your reverting my edit

@J947:

Regarding your good-faith reversion of my equally good-faith correction of your close, I thought of discussing it with you first, but figured since you and I had a good rapport, that you would not mind.

Nevertheless, I still feel that it is not a "speedy disambiguate." I'm not sure there is such a thing, but logically, it would be the same as a "speedy keep" when the nominator withdraws their nomination except they concur with the unanimous recommended outcome of the participants (as we do with "speedy retarget"). Since you were neither a participant or the nominator, it is not, technically, a "speedy disambiguate," but can still be closed early per WP:SNOW. Thus, I believe "WP:SNOW disambiguate" should be the result.

Cheers,
Doug Mehus T·C 00:17, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Dmehus, you don't need to ping me; it's my own talkpage.
    The nominator supported the disambiguation, as did many others, so I felt there wasn't a need for further bureaucracy. It was speedy as it was unanimous; being a participant in the discussion isn't a required prerequisite for speedy closure. J947 (c), at 00:53, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    J947, I know being a participant in the discussion isn't a prerequisite for closure, but I also know, like me, you are a stickler for details, and, while I have no problem with you closing the discussion early, I just think that "WP:SNOW disambiguate" reflects our current guidelines. There are speedy redirects, but that seems to be related to drafts from Draft: namespace and typically the outcome over at MfD. Yes, I guess, you could've noted in your close, "closing for nominator," which would make it a "speedy disambiguate," but at the same time, Uanfala specifically requested that it be closed as WP:SNOW closure (presumably, because "speedy keep/disambiguate/retarget" has a different meaning in that it was withdrawn by the nominator). Doug Mehus T·C 01:04, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    See also WP:SPEEDYKEEP and WP:SNOW. In the past, I used to get the terms confused, but essentially, "speedy" results are either from the nominator's withdrawal or early closure by anyone when the nomination is out of process or made in bad faith, etc. So, like I say, no concerns with the early closure whatsoever—thank you—but just thinking it should be "WP:SNOW disambiguate." I know the "speedy" checkbox makes it easy, but what I did is just type WP:SNOW disambiguate/keep/retarget into the "result" box of the "other" option (similar to how you have to use the "other" box to enter "delete" when closing as "speedy delete" for a processing administrator). Doug Mehus T·C 01:09, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    Okay, there were two closures that you closed as "speedy"; the one for disambiguation can probably stay as "speedy disambiguate," but I would add to your closing rationale, "Withdrawn by the nominator. Closing for her." That way, it's clear. With regard to nautical units, which I didn't amend as you closed that afterward, that one should be amended to "WP:SNOW retarget" because that's what it was—you came along as a non-involved editor and closed it early, and Uanfala wasn't withdrawing the nomination. Hoping you won't mind making those minor changes with this added clarity. Doug Mehus T·C 01:27, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    Involved SNOW closures are generally frowned upon; it was unanimous so I was being unbureaucratic about it. J947 (c), at 01:42, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    J947, no one had any objections to Uanfala even doing an WP:INVOLVED WP:SNOW closure, including me. So, at minimum, I do think that one should at least be updated. No one is going to mind. After all, we're not a bureaucracy, as you say, and have no rules. ;-) Doug Mehus T·C 01:48, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    If you are still not wanting to do an involved WP:SNOW closure, could you at least revert the closure of the nautical units RfD and let a non-involved participant close as "WP:SNOW retarget" since that's what Uanfala and I were wanting? I personally have no issues with your involved closure, but since the terms "speedy retarget" and "WP:SNOW retarget" have different meanings in the context of subsequent deletion discussions (think about it at AfD or MfD; an article withdrawn as "speedy keep" or "speedy retarget" can influence future deletion discussions were an article closed early per WP:SNOW). I get the desire to avoid bureaucracy, and that's why I have no issues with the involved closure, but it's key that we get the closing rationale right. Doug Mehus T·C 02:28, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for explaining

Yeah I do agree it is possible for the articles to be kept or retargeted. But since it is almost midnight UTC Gesus is the only one that looks like it might not get deleted since it is the only one that someone asked to keep. 71.34.25.253 (talk) 23:44, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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User:J947/Old watchlist

By the way, you could have just “edited raw watchlist” and copy that list. It would have looked less messy, probably. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 13:00, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the suggestion about categorizing redirects!

J947, I was just wanting to thank you for the suggestion of adding categories to my redirects. I never knew that this is done with redirects as I've never seen a redirect with categories in it. From this, I guess you opened up another "frontier" for me to build infrastructure for the redirects. Since the redirects are meant to support the main pages, it could be said that this is the infrastructure to support the infrastructure. Another quick thing, I have a bot assigned to me that reviews redirect pages for me since I was creating so many in the past and up to this point.

Thanks for the pointer! --Skim

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Thanks! — J947 (user | cont | ess), at 01:16, 6 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Special:Diff/948935465

Hello, actually, Category:Redirects with old history is a subcategory of Category:Redirects from moves. However, I'm not sure if this categorisation is correct and I think I've seen some of the redirects being not from moves; also, I've only noticed this categorisation right now and have myself tagged some of the categories as redirects from moves as well. I'll probably start a discussion on the redirect project talk page. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 15:42, 7 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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I cannot move my sandbox or edit the request for move page. What do I do? Wynn Liaw (talk) 08:56, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • @Wynn Liaw: The histmerge has been done. In the future, the safest thing to do when you are editing an existing article in your sandbox, is to provide a link to that sandbox in your edit summary. — J947 (user | cont | ess), at 21:38, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • Like, in the existing article? Wynn Liaw (talk) 01:52, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • Can I request for history merge instead? Wynn Liaw (talk) 04:46, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      • @Wynn Liaw: You could – but as only one person frequents that venue, the best thing to do is to link to where you drafted changes in your edit summary when you add the content to the article. — J947 (user | cont | ess), at 05:09, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
        • If I may butt in; a history merge is something that gets done after a stuff up. You don't cause the need for one deliberately. Schwede66 05:42, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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K4 at RfD

At this point, it may be worth starting an RfC to discuss whether it's an acceptable/worthwhile use of resources to nominate trivial misspellings at RfD. RfD is naturally going to attract editors that want to delete random misspellings, so it's entirely possible that the current status quo of you being the lone keep vote is just a local consensus. As it stands, the consensus in each of these individual discussions is strong enough that my hands are generally tied as far as closures are concerned, but if there was an overriding consensus that hunting down minor typos is a waste of time these discussions could be procedurally closed. signed, Rosguill talk 23:57, 15 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Ah, I wasn't aware. Thank you for telling me. Scrooge200 (talk) 20:49, 21 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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  • @I'm Aya Syameimaru!: Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a userpage showcase. I strongly recommend that you leave your userpage alone and focus on building the encyclopedia instead. — J947 [cont] 20:06, 23 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi J947, I'm Ezhao02. I'd like to ask for your advice if you have time. Currently, I'm involved in an edit war with an IP editor on Progressive Slovakia over whether the wording in the lead should state "that" or "which". I've created a section to discuss this at the talk page, but the editor in question will not respond after repeated requests for him or her to do so. (Note: there are actually 2 IP addresses; I'm assuming that they're the same person because the editing on one stopped before the editing on the other started and because they edit the same types of pages [Slovak political parties].) What would be the best way to proceed? Ezhao02 (talk) 01:08, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • @Ezhao02: firstly, it's best to stop edit warring on the change as it barely matters at all. If you wish to pursue your preferred change, then don't revert the IP(s) any more. Try to see if they can communicate on a talk page – and if they don't, then my advice is to just disengage from the conflict as it doesn't really matter. — J947 [cont] 01:32, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, thank you for the advice. Ezhao02 (talk) 02:06, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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