User talk:Hurledhandbook

July 2019

Hello. This is a message to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions, such as the edit you made to List of concentration and internment camps, did not appear constructive and has been reverted. Please take some time to familiarise yourself with our policies and guidelines. You can find information about these at our welcome page which also provides further information about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. If you only meant to make test edits, please use the sandbox for that. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you may leave a message on my talk page. Thank you. OhKayeSierra (talk) 02:08, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

Also stating for the rcord that I reverted your edit at Internment for the same reason. If you disagree with its inclusion in both articles, please establish consensus first before removing it again, especially for a contentious topic like that. OhKayeSierra (talk) 02:09, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

Please stop your disruptive editing.

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If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at List of concentration and internment camps, you may be blocked from editing. OhKayeSierra (talk) 02:14, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

Concentration camps

Sorry but these edits are helpful. They do not meet the definition of concentration camps. You are spewing incorrect information.

In follow-up to my earlier post, every single citation listed for the Immigration Detention Centers relies on one single author: Andrea Pitzer. She does not appear to have a PhD or even Masters Degree. I can find no basis to qualify her as an expert on this matter. She is not more credible than multiple Holocaust museums who have many experts with PhDs studying the field, Holocaust Survivors, and multiple journalists that I have listed.

There has been no evidence provided that the detained individuals will not receive trials for their asylum claims. On the contrary, the law requires they will, which i cited. Further, there has been an extensive Humanitarian aid package of 4.6 billion of dollars passed and on its way to the detained individuals. [19] This shows there is no punitive intent to inflict harm or a design for harm, but the country is merely being overwhelmed by the number of immigrants.

The Japanese were American Citizens and were put in camps because of their immutable traits. The European Jews (should have been citizens) and were rightful inhabitants of their land, they were put in camps (and killed) for immutable traits. The same can be said about the African Boers in South Africa. The undocumented migrants are coming of their own free will, unlike every other example, and are not being targeted due to immutable traits, but immigration status.

The only other expert in any of the articles J. Hyslop states, "all four of the early instances—Americans in the Philippines, Spanish in Cuba, and British in South Africa, and Germans in Southwest Africa—they're all essentially overriding any sense of rights of the civilian population." Every instance was a native population being moved based on their immutable traits. With the Detention Centers, a population is coming into a foreign country and is being asked to stop pending a hearing. It doesn't appear to be the same Hurledhandbook (talk) 02:15, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

The onus is on you to establish consensus at Talk:Internment and Talk:List of concentration and internment camps. I strongly recommend that you post your rationale for removing the edits there. If you continue to blank the sections, you risk being blocked for tendentious editing and removing content. OhKayeSierra (talk) 02:18, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

July 2019

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you remove or blank page content or templates from Wikipedia, as you did at Internment. OhKayeSierra (talk) 02:15, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

Concentration camps

The consensus on this as already been met on talk:internment. The only user to disagree has been pinchme123. Everyone else has agreed that America from 2016-current shouldn’t be on the list or examples. Hurledhandbook (talk) 02:23, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

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OhKayeSierra (talk) 02:23, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

Again, I strongly recommend that you establish consensus before editing the topic further. OhKayeSierra (talk) 02:23, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

July 2019

Everyone else agrees that it shouldn’t be on there except one person so it gets to stay there? That is BS. It should be removed until a consensus is made because having false information out there is not okay. Hurledhandbook (talk) 02:27, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

I see two people arguing for its removal on Talk:Internment, one person arguing to keep it, and one person arguing for the removal of examples from the article outright. In Talk:List of concentration and internment camps#RFC about U.S.-Mexico border camps, the consensus seems to be borderline towards keeping it. At any rate, it's a moot point, since an administrator protected the page. OhKayeSierra (talk) 02:34, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

July 2019

On Talk:Internment is 3 versus 1 on doing away with the example. Is there any way I can have an admin look over this and make sure this is dealt with? Hurledhandbook (talk) 02:41, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

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N.J.A. | talk 12:49, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

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Pinchme123 (talk) 22:46, 14 July 2019 (UTC)