User talk:Helenalex/2007archive

Welcome!

Hello, Helenalex, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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Treaty of Waitangi and related articles[edit]

I think your edits in these areas are great, and I welcome your expertise. In general, I would like you to source your edits, but I accept that much of our existing content does not cite its sources. When you add material which is not controversial, adding citations with it is desirable but not absolutely essential. When the material is controversial, the sources become vital; however, what makes any material controversial is primarily that someone else challenges it. In the long term, the benefit of providing sources for all material is so the information can be defended even if you are no longer available to supply those sources.

Since your changes are based on your PhD thesis, and that had better be well sourced if you want it to be accepted, you should have no trouble quoting your primary sources for most of the material. I realise that the thesis might use your own interviews with living people for more recent events or unpublished diaries of historical figures for earlier events, and these primary sources are not suitable for reference in Wikipedia. Once your thesis is submitted, it becomes a source which can be used as a ref.

Most of the articles you have been editing do not use the preferred footnoting style; you should look at Wikipedia:Citing sources and Wikipedia:Footnotes to see the preferred methods, or see 2006 Fijian coup d'état or any of the articles featured on the main page for examples of well-referenced articles.

I'm no great expert on New Zealand history, but feel free to ask me if you need any help dealing with Wikipedia.-gadfium 01:31, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well done on your edits of the ToW article. --Lholden 01:40, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Appreciate your comments on my brief effort at clarifying the SOE case - I was in a rush and didn't have time to properly get my head around how the legislation was the first that let the courts consider the Treaty, and how to explain that while leaving the nice structure you made intact. Go ahead and edit if I've left it unclear - I'm sure between us we'll get there. --Tirana 06:57, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Auckland Meetup 2 Scheduled - Feb 10 2007[edit]

You are invited to Auckland Meetup 2 on the afternoon of Saturday February 10th 2007 at Galbraith's Ale House in Mt Eden. Please see Wikipedia:Meetup/Auckland 2 for details. You can also bookmark Wikipedia:Meetup/Auckland to be informed of future NZ meetups. - SimonLyall 09:30, 9 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

LGBT category name[edit]

You might be able to supply useful input at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2007_January_5#Category:GLBT_New_Zealand. Should the word "culture" appear in the category name?-gadfium 22:24, 9 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Kiwis[edit]

Welcome from yet another Kiwi!

My user page has this at the top: See Wikipedia:New Zealand Wikipedians' notice board. You might like to have the same on yours, as a quick way of keeping tabs on some of us.

Ka kite.

Robin Patterson 06:01, 14 January 2007 (UTC) in Porirua[reply]

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Tiriti[edit]

Great work on Treaty of Waitangi. KIa kaha koe. Kahuroa 18:35, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Cheers - will thank Tirana too. Collaborations can be great - I had one last year with User:Bucketsofg to source/rewrite a lot of the Polynesian Mythology articles which were in a dire state. Still need work but at least they are sourced for the most part... Kahuroa 23:03, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

HELP![edit]

Please visit the NAMBLA article talk page Talk:North_American_Man/Boy_Love_Association#categories_again and voice your disgust at NAMBLA being included as an LGBT organisation. Alternatively, if you believe that this is indeed an LGBT organisation, then you're welcome to voice that opinion. Either way, discussion is needed! Enzedbrit 21:08, 19 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Help reverting[edit]

Hi Helenalex, I noticed you had difficulty reverting a vandal at Stock market crash. Read this for an easier way to remove vandalism. You might also want to install popups for an even easier way to revert. Leave a note if you have any questions, and thanks for the good work! —EncMstr 23:13, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

History of Otago[edit]

Any thoughts on this article? Looks a little off-beam to me, with its Moahunters and 'peaceful' Waitaha stuff, perhaps relying on out of date material or on new-agey stuff?. Cheers Kahuroa 23:13, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Tu Pounamu[edit]

Looks like teenage fun... I used to live in the Bay of Plenty and knew the family of the Paramount chief of Ngāti Awa, never heard anything of TP4. I even saw their whakapapa going back into the 17th century, not a TP in sight. On Aquinas College, Tauranga he backs up TP4 with a reference to Grey - that is false too - Grey definitely doesnt mention a TP4. Title 'chieftain-prince' is dodgy. The whole thing is dodgy. Think I will ask User:Gadfium to have a look at this user's edits. Kahuroa 04:17, 1 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

See User talk:Gadfium for his reply - AfD is 'article for deletion'. Kahuroa 09:46, 1 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

New Zealand[edit]

I would like to disagree regarding the one line comment of the history of NZ from 1788 to 1840. A fuller history would include the Declaration of Independence of 1835, the letters patent of 1839; but the short statement that it was formally part of NSW I believe is worth one line. Alan Davidson 06:38, 12 March 2007 (UTC) OK Alan Davidson 06:57, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

New Zealand culture[edit]

Thanks for the invitation, but I wouldn't touch this one with a ten foot bargepole, I'm afraid - not my area of expertise. There's a real risk that a subject like that gets infected with unacknowledged POV politics, whether it's the whole 1/4 acre pavlova paradise business, or ethnic nationalism, or "cultural cringe". My only suggestions - have a look at the other New Europe culture pages and see how they cope with the blend of indigenous and immigrant cultures, and find some citable sources, eg Jock Philips, James Belich etc. It really needs to be dragged back from the assumed to the citable. --Tirana 23:41, 18 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:New Zealand stub templates[edit]

Hi - I wish you hadn't made this category! There was an ongoing battle relating to separate stub template categories for some time at WP:WSS and elsewhere. Stub templates are not added to a separate category hierarchy, since they are already categorised along with the stub articles in the main stub category hierarchy. Grutness...wha? 04:54, 21 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oops... I think my main rationale was to have all the stub codes in one place so they would be easier to find and therefore use. Perhaps a page listing NZ stub codes would be a better solution?

Yeah, that's probably a better idea. A lot of WikiProjects list their relevant stub types on the project page, so perhaps somewhere on Wikipedia:WikiProject New Zealand (or a subpage of it) would be the best place to list them. Grutness...wha? 02:00, 22 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar[edit]

I award you this Barnstar for your efforts to finally sort out the Political party categories. Thanks! Brian (Talk) 10:37, 8 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nice to see you back here[edit]

I thought we might have lost you, but I guess you were on holiday.-gadfium 20:36, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

LGBT contributors[edit]

G'day! Have you thought to signing up here? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_LGBT_studies/Members

Any comments?[edit]

I see you have made several changes to Military history of New Zealand, I take this to mean you are interested in this subject and I was wondering what your views were on my suggestion on its talk page.Blacksmith2^talk 04:59, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Meetup[edit]

Hey, I noticed you attended one of the previous auckland meetups, and I am notifying previous attendees we are planning another one on 11th August. See the meetup page for more information, or to say if you are coming. Thanks! Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 01:57, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Question[edit]

You recently tagged my article for deletion PANDEAN Diet. I am a new user of wikipedia. Can you assit me with an explanation on why you felt my article should be deleted, maybe there was something wrong with the wording and i can fix it. Any suggestion would help. Thanks.

Katyecun 15:17, 14 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Question 2[edit]

You recently deleted a lot of content from the Ulster Tower Thiepval. To say the content is irrelevant is not enough to do this. Please explain your actions.
And please redo your work at Ulster Tower Thiepval, because I think your knowledge about this place is not accurate. Have you ever been there? Ever read the books about the place?
Harm Frielink 20:59, 30 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Laptop[edit]

For shame! Good to see you back :-) --Lholden 00:53, 13 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Compulsory Unionism in New Zealand[edit]

Hi Helen! I don't know what your sources are, but compulsory unionism was definitely not abolished by the Holyoake government. Read John Marshall's biography - he pushed for the idea, but Holyoake stepped back from it. It was the Muldoon government in 1983-1984 that abolished it.

What the Holyoake government did was introduce the Unqualified Preference Clause, which required that when it came to employment, unionists had to be given priority over nonunionists. In practice, this meant that nonunionists could almost never be hired. David Cannon 23:31, 24 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Orange Institution[edit]

Hi - I have moved your sandbox article to User:Helenalex/sandbox/OrangeInstitution as you had created the page in the main article namespace. Cheers, ELIMINATORJR 21:12, 5 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Lodgeparade.JPG[edit]

Are you Helen Robinson? Are you the photographer of this image? Chaddy 14:32, 14 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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