User talk:Ebayrockstar
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A proposed deletion template has been added to the article TNTRide, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice should explain why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}}
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Why was I violating rules with my written article for TNTRide, LLC.??? Please explain the "Prod" command.
Ebayrockstar (talk) 00:31, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
AfD nomination of TNTRide[edit]
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I have nominated TNTRide, an article you created, for deletion. I do not feel that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/TNTRide. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Do you want to opt out of receiving this notice? SchuminWeb (Talk) 01:31, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
How am I welcome to edit my "terrible" article? I can't find a way to? I'm tired of fighting here. Just let me work on my article.
Ebayrockstar (talk) 02:48, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
- TNTRide has been speedily deleted per the Articles for Deletion discussion. Please do not recreate it. Also, per your comment at User talk:Travellingcari#Deletion, for an article that you admit was "incomplete", you stopped editing it on May 23, and did not contest the proposed deletion tag that was placed on it on June 9, which cleared the way for its deletion through that process. Then when you came to me about it, I followed process and restored it no questions asked. However, the article still lacked in notability, and therefore I formally nominated it for deletion, where the result was to speedily delete. SchuminWeb (Talk) 14:11, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
June 2008[edit]
Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks will lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. SchuminWeb (Talk) 01:53, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
Personal attacks? How about Nairii saying that the article is "terrible". Is that not a personal attack? How ironic that you mention this rule because I feel like I'm being personally attacked. I appreciate constructive criticism and specific recommendations for improvement of my article. This is my very first article I look forward to contributing more, however with moderators like you I'm afraid I don't have much of a future here. Ebayrockstar (talk) 02:20, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
- "How about Nairii saying that the article is "terrible". Is that not a personal attack?" Of course it's not — s/he was writing about the article, not you. As for TNTRide, bear in mind (as has been pointed out to you numerous times) that Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, not a webhost or a blog; if you can write an article showing that TNTRide is notable and encyclopaedic (as someone else has already pointed out, mere existence does not equal notability), then fine, but bear in mind that your past actions have probably made it difficult to get such an article accepted. -- Korax1214 (talk) 14:08, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
The Web[edit]
I see you have fallen into "The Deletion Web"...suggestion #1) Try not to move. That will only bring you know who. #2) Find another administrator that is NOT a deletionist. At least you may find out why it was deleted. #3) Keep Sailing (editing)..."keep the wind in your sails" #4) Have Fun.--Buster7 (talk) 02:10, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for the friendly advice. I'm not sure why I'm being discriminated against. As I stated to the administrator this is my first article on Wikipedia. I had no idea I would come up against complete recrimination. Ebayrockstar (talk) 02:24, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
Please stop. If you continue to delete or edit legitimate talk page comments, as you did at User talk:SchuminWeb, you will be blocked for vandalism. SchuminWeb (Talk) 02:35, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
It seems you're against me in every way. I apologize for deleting text, however it was irrelevant. The fact is I'm trying to keep an article I wrote. Whether I'm new here or not you're still discriminating against me in every way you can find. You just posted to stop personally attacking, well what do you call this? Ebayrockstar (talk) 02:41, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
- I'll read the article but I'm not really sure I can help. Note: use "double colon (:)" to indent your comment or reply from the previous entry in a running conversation. When you check out delete or edit you will see there are other ways for an editor to handle previous chat. Be assured, however, that your actions are far from vandalism. Any administrator would see the good faith error of a 'newbie"...well...almost any administrator--Buster7 (talk) 04:29, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
Please stop. If you continue to add promotional material to Wikipedia, as you did to TNTRide, you will be blocked from editing. There is no evidence that TNTRide is a notable company per WP:CORP and Wikipedia is not to be used for promotion of same. TravellingCarithe Busy Bee 04:32, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
- I am surprised and dissapointed at how this editor, Ebayrockstar, is being treated. While his article may or may not be the most blatant attempt at free-advertising (POV) that doesn't mean he should be attacked as if he were a rabid dog that just entered the room. The article is not garbage. I've seen garbage. And it certainly isn't terrible. Is this how we should treat a new guest at Wilipedia? I don't think so.--Buster7 (talk) 05:05, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
- see WP:Newbies--Buster7 (talk) 05:12, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
- I believe the user has had a number of chances. S/he all but admitted to using it for promotion and there was no evidence whatsoever that it is a notable company and therefore deletion via PROD and SPEEDY was completely appropriate. I believe the user has had a number of chances and blaming the admin is not the best way. The user is free to try deletion review but the admitted spam and the non-notable company (complete with ebay saying to check the store's website as a source} is not likely to be a favorable outcome. S/he is free to work on it un userspace, at User:Ebayrockstar/TNTRide to try and establish notability in reliable sources, but restoration in mainspace is not appropriate at this time. TravellingCarithe Busy Bee 05:25, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
- ETA, offline until morning but happy to discuss it further then. TravellingCarithe Busy Bee 05:28, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
- The treatment I am referring to is not by you. I complelely agree that his/her article needs work to be acceptable. I am completely inexperienced in the area of promotional sites...yea or nay. But, rather than provide some guidance, other editors/administrators over-respond. They threaten "blocking"...they call the article terrible (a very hurt-full word)....and garbage (also unkind)...and vandalism. I, myself, have only been here a short time but I have found many empty user pages because the new editor was scared off by just this type of behavior. The salary of a WikiPedia editor is not sufficient to offset abuse.--Buster7 (talk) 06:22, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
- User just posted to my talk page wherein he said he's doing this to help the CEO who has a brain tumor...Noble, but not a reason to write a Wikipedia article on a non-notable company. Admins get frustrated when a user does not engage in positive communication about the article. While I don't think he was deliberately vandalizing, I do think they've not taken the time to learn the guidelines of the community and as a result get frustrated. I'm happy to help users, and have done so in the past. I suggested this be created in his own workspace to establish notability, however as that won't meet his goals of a)Search engine optimization and b) helping the CEO, I'm not sure it's a path he wants to take. TravellingCarithe Busy Bee 14:59, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
- The treatment I am referring to is not by you. I complelely agree that his/her article needs work to be acceptable. I am completely inexperienced in the area of promotional sites...yea or nay. But, rather than provide some guidance, other editors/administrators over-respond. They threaten "blocking"...they call the article terrible (a very hurt-full word)....and garbage (also unkind)...and vandalism. I, myself, have only been here a short time but I have found many empty user pages because the new editor was scared off by just this type of behavior. The salary of a WikiPedia editor is not sufficient to offset abuse.--Buster7 (talk) 06:22, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
- see WP:Newbies--Buster7 (talk) 05:12, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
- I am surprised and dissapointed at how this editor, Ebayrockstar, is being treated. While his article may or may not be the most blatant attempt at free-advertising (POV) that doesn't mean he should be attacked as if he were a rabid dog that just entered the room. The article is not garbage. I've seen garbage. And it certainly isn't terrible. Is this how we should treat a new guest at Wilipedia? I don't think so.--Buster7 (talk) 05:05, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
TNTRide is a notable company. I'm tired of trying to justify that. Yes I'm trying to help them out and yes the CEO does have a brain tumor. There are things in life that are good deeds. I believe in doing good deeds, I also believe in karma. I'm not backing down I will compose a noteworthy article for them and it will be superb. I'm not sure what Wikipedia classifies notable as, but a company that has a trademarked logo and branding would classify pretty notable in my book. Not to mention their graphics designer just happens to be Chris Angel's graphic designer "Stefanie Lynn Evans". I'm sorry but I just don't agree with all this utter discrimination, however if your willing to help me accomplish this I would be very grateful. I want to make friends here not enemies. Please help me do good for them and show me the ways to write a good Wikipedia article. Ebayrockstar (talk) 02:09, 30 June 2008 (UTC) '
- Response also at my talk. There is no discrimination and throwing around personal attacks will not win you any favors. As I said on my talk page and above, you're more than welcome to create it at User:Ebayrockstar/TNTRide and work on it there, where it will be given time to grow. Please note what WP:CORP (which I don't think you have read if you think having a logo and branding make them encyclopedically notable) and WP:RS have to say. Simple existence is not enough for notability. There are other ways to promote the company, which is what you're trying to do, that do not involve an encyclopedia. As SchuminWeb said to you above, it would be inappropriate to recreate this article in the main space and will lead to immediate deletion and likely block for you as well as portecting the article against re-creation. You mean well, but you do not understand the role of an encyclopedia. TravellingCarithe Busy Bee 02:26, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- This company is not notable as per Wikipedia policy. You might think it is, that is fine. However, unless you can show evidence of how this company meets the specific requirements of WP:CORP, it will not be included on Wikipedia. Admins, especially TCari, are willing to help, but if you don't show any initiative to learn the ropes, there's only so much we can do. Almost all your arguments here are irrelevant - brain tumors, good deeds, karma, and the fact that the article will be "superb" does not exempt the article from having to meet WP:CORP. If you or Buster think this is "discrimination", or that we're being rude, I'm sorry. However, as admins, we are here in part to ensure that policy is upheld. Your indignation and hurt feelings, while regrettable, won't change that. Tan | 39 15:12, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- Let me make this perfectly clear to anyone interested. I do NOT think one iota of prejudice is at work here. I have no feelings one way or another about the article in question. I understand why it is not currently acceptable. My concern was the disregard WE were showing to a new editor. I certainly have noticed TCari's (as well as Tanthalas') willingness to help. I am also sure that Ebayrockstar appreciates the respectful manner that WE are now presenting. Thank You both.--Buster7 (talk) 19:48, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- This company is not notable as per Wikipedia policy. You might think it is, that is fine. However, unless you can show evidence of how this company meets the specific requirements of WP:CORP, it will not be included on Wikipedia. Admins, especially TCari, are willing to help, but if you don't show any initiative to learn the ropes, there's only so much we can do. Almost all your arguments here are irrelevant - brain tumors, good deeds, karma, and the fact that the article will be "superb" does not exempt the article from having to meet WP:CORP. If you or Buster think this is "discrimination", or that we're being rude, I'm sorry. However, as admins, we are here in part to ensure that policy is upheld. Your indignation and hurt feelings, while regrettable, won't change that. Tan | 39 15:12, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
Buster you hit the nail on the head. I am happy to read that there is help. Besides help here I've now contacted a very good friend who is by far a way better writer than I am. Together we'll do our best to bring the article back and of course any help offered here will be greatly appreciated. Updates to start very soon. Thanks for the support Buster! Thank you TravellingCari and Tan. Ebayrockstar (talk) 23:08, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
Message in a Bottle[edit]
please send my talk a little non descipt note so that I know you got this and hzve deleted it....thanks..--Buster7 (talk) 03:49, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
I need your name please.
Ebayrockstar (talk) 23:20, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
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--Buster7 (talk) 06:24, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
Buster7 check your My Talk page.
Ebayrockstar (talk) 05:51, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
Image without license[edit]
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Ok I think we fixed it now. The image was created by a TNTRide Graphics Designer from Indianapolis, IN. He's created several other images for TNTRide. I will not disclose his name due to privacy reasons. This image is not to be edited in any way. TNTRide sponsors Fabricio Werdum and has permission to use his image in art for advertising and products per a contract with Kimurawear. Hopefully we chose the correct copyright as the image is on TNTRide.com and everything there is copyrighted.
Ebayrockstar (talk) 01:33, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
New TNTRide Wiki[edit]
We're looking for help as TNTRide has accomplished a lot since their first try. In an effort to become a more "NOTABLE" company they are now sponsoring UFC Fighter Fabricio "Vai Cavalo" Werdum for UFC 90 on October 25th in Chicago, IL. Their pictures should end up in articles all over the Internet not to mention their products will be viewed by millions on Pay Per View TV. It will be even better if their fighter wins his fight. TNTRide will be taken to a new level!! Let us know!! Our new entry will start on a different page.
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Tell us any ideas you may have for writing a new wiki article.
Ebayrockstar (talk) 02:21, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
File source problem with File:Fabricio-werdum-ufc-90-tntride-sponsor-banner.jpg[edit]
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