User talk:DarkAkira

ALTIMIT OS

Now it is unclear when the article talks about the fictional OS and when about this new development. Please, separate the article in sections to avoid confusion. Kazu-kun 06:03, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Please revise the format if you believe it is confusing. Do not remove the facts.

I think you're talking about Nique1287, (who obviously isn't me), 'cause I didn't remove anything. And by the way, sign your posts, please: use ~~~~. Kazu-kun 00:12, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Yes, It was a bit rude of Nique1287, but Wiki has its guidelines that we should follow. Tell you what, write what you want to add to the article in your Sandbox first. I'll take a look at it, and once it's ready I'll add it to the article myself. Kazu-kun 08:28, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

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ALTIMIT

You seem to have it in your head that you are the fictional ALTIMIT corporation, creating the fictional ALTIMIT OS, as though making the fiction reality. You are not. You are a fan project based on the fiction. Having permission from Bandai to use the name does not make you the fictional company, and it does not make your project the fictional OS, which are, again, what those articles are about and meant for. I understand that you want to get the word out about your company, you want it to be well-known, but you have got to stop confusing the fiction with the reality, and following, or even just acknowledging the guidelines that have been pointed out to you numerous times. Nique talk 02:57, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

But you are not THE company, nor creating THE OS, that the articles are for. Your project is not fictional, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying you are not the fictional-company-turned-real, and your OS may look like and may even function similarly to the fictional one, but it is not the fictional=OS-turned-real. Nobody's denying that your project exists, we're just saying that it doesn't deserve a huge mention, or its own article, on Wiki yet. It's just not notable enough in its own right. Read through the guidelines I and other users have pointed you to. They'll help you understand why your actions are inappropriate for Wikipedia. Nique talk 03:10, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

To reiterate (and rephrase,) The OS in fiction and the OS in reality are two separate entities. This article explains the role of the fictional version in the .hack series, which is why your information does not fit. In order for your fictional OS to be truly real, I think the events leading up to the creation of the OS would have to be exact. Although an OS that is 100% invulnerable to being compromised is appealing, I'm pretty sure no one here is interested in a real Pluto's Kiss. For the OS in reality, it would either have to be a separate article, or a separate section. If you tried to place both fictional and real elements in a single section, the result is very confusing for readers. That explains why you can't write in the way you did before, and why your company and the company in the fictional series are separate. However, I have yet to see how this project acheives notability guidelines. It may be significant, but is it significant enough to put it here? What proof is there that shows this significance? You can't use yourself as the source for this. Other people must ackknowledge it. - Zero1328 _Talk? 10:24, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

I know what you mean, but what you describe just isn't sufficient to prove that it's notable. Using yourself and the project's community is not enough. For example, you say Bandai has approved, but no one can really believe you since you're the only one saying it, and you haven't shown anything to back it up. That would fall under what the description of original research is. It's like a University essay, everything should have citations. Find/show more. Media coverage or something. - Zero1328 _Talk? 13:15, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Just an aside from reading your comments about the issue on other talk pages as well, you still seem to have an issue dealing with the reality of the situation. As Zero said above, you are not the fictional corporation, and you are not making the fictional operating system. You are imitators, as harsh as that sounds. It doesn't matter (with regards to this point) whether Bandai gave you permission to USE the name or not. You are NOT the corporation in the .hack series, and the ALTIMIT you are creating is NOT the ALTIMIT in the series. I hate to sound rude, but it's a cheap knockoff made by you, fan(s) of the series, who wanted to make it a reality. But creating a corporation and an OS based on the fiction does not make you the fictional ones, and it does not, by default, mean that you have the right to take over the Wikipedia articles for the corporation and OS in question, because those articles are specifically for the fictional ones, and your corporation and project are not notable enough to deserve an article about them. You should really step back from this and take a look at how deeply entrenched in the project your head is, if you SERIOUSLY, and in ALL HONESTY, think that you are the ALTIMIT in the series. Nique talk 13:28, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

User talk:Nique1287

I have posted a reply to your points on User talk:Nique1287 on that page. -M^ask? 16:39, 18 April 2007 (UTC)