User talk:Coemgenus/archive2009-2

Grover Cleveland on Vacation

I would request that you at least review my arguments supporting this narrative before you remove all the time and work I put into it. See discussion page, there may be benefits to this narrative you have not considered. Ourhistory153 (talk) 15:37, 7 July 2009 (UTC)ourhistory153Ourhistory153 (talk) 15:37, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

George Upfold

Sure and it's my pleasure. But please bear in mind that such quicksilver fingers can be yours, too, for the low price of absolutely nothing!!! But wait...there's more! _{No there isn't, actually. That's it. Quite useful, tho'.} --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 20:09, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Episcopal bishop

OK, I know what you meant but I just had to move your article. Viewed from this side of the Atlantic, it is impossible for a bishop not to be episcopal! — RHaworth (Talk | contribs) 14:59, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

WP:Hornbook -- a new WP:Law task force for the J.D. curriculum

Hi Coemgenus/archive2009-2,

I'm asking Wikipedians who are interested in United States legal articles to take a look at WP:Hornbook, the new "JD curriculum task force".

Our mission is to assimilate into Wikipedia all the insights of an American law school education, by reducing hornbooks to footnotes.

• Each casebook will have a subpage.

• Over the course of a semester, each subpage will shift its focus to track the unfolding curriculum(s) for classes using that casebook around the country.
• It will also feature an extensive, hyperlinked "index" or "outline" to that casebook, pointing to pages, headers, or {{anchors}} in Wikipedia (example).
• Individual law schools can freely adapt our casebook outlines to the idiosyncratic curriculum devised by each individual professor.

• I'm encouraging law students around the country to create local chapters of the club I'm starting at my own law school, "Student WP:Hornbook Editors". Using WP:Hornbook as our headquarters, we're hoping to create a study group so inclusive that nobody will dare not join.

What you can do now:

1. Add WP:Hornbook to your watchlist, {{User Hornbook}} to your userpage, and ~~~~ to Wikipedia:Hornbook/participants.

2. If you're a law student,

• Email http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:Hornbook to your classmates, and tell them to do the same.
• Contact me directly via talk page or email about coordinating a chapter of "Student WP:Hornbook Editors" at your own school.

(You don't have to start the club, or even be involved in it; just help direct me to someone who might.)

3. Introduce yourself to me. Law editors on Wikipedia are a scarce commodity. Do knock on my talk page if there's an article you'd like help on.

Regards, Andrew Gradman ^talk/_WP:Hornbook 06:12, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

DYK for George Burgess (Episcopal bishop)

On August 5, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article George Burgess (Episcopal bishop), which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Wikiproject: Did you know? 20:14, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

2009 Phillies season

No no, there's absolutely no difference at all! I apologize if I caused any confusion. The en-dash and the hyphen look the same in a monospace font, so I didn't know if it was en-dashes or hyphens. No big thing, it will get changed back to the WYSIWYG version by the CodeFixer when I run it at the end of the month anyway. Thanks so much for your help keeping up with this article; I don't really trust the bot that's doing the rest to do a respectable job. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 11:45, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Henry John Whitehouse

On August 8, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Henry John Whitehouse, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

{{User0|Giants27 08:15, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

GA reassessment of Northeast Philadelphia

I have conducted a reassessment of the above article as part of the GA Sweeps process. I have found some concerns with the article which you can see at Talk:Northeast Philadelphia/GA1. I have placed the article on hold whilst these are fixed. You are being notified as you have been a major contributor to the article. Thanks, GaryColemanFan (talk) 06:18, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Coemgenus: I have been doing some inline citations, but more are needed. In some cases, you could continue with a pattern I have already set for State Senate, or District councilman. You will see from my talk page that we have an extension on the one week, so I will stop improvements now, and perhaps you will have time to do more. --DThomsen8 (talk) 20:30, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

I have conducted a reassessment of the above article as part of the GA Sweeps process after the original re-assessor had to drop out. I have found some concerns with the referencing which you can see at Talk:Northeast Philadelphia/GA1. I have placed the article on hold for a further seven days whilst these are fixed. Thanks. Jezhotwells (talk) 02:09, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Coemgenus: Are you going to be able to fix all the citation issues? I didn't do anything more after August 15th. Sorry. --DThomsen8 (talk) 03:15, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

I added a few. I have some time this week, so we may be able to keep the GA status alive. --Coemgenus 03:29, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

I see that the GA status has been lost. Is there anything for me to do, other than read the talk page information? --DThomsen8 (talk) 12:54, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

I left a message on the reviewer's talk page. I left a question on the article talk page. Let's see what happens. If nothing much, I will add a few inline citations about various political figures, and ask for a new review.

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Fair use rationale for File:Hksherrill.jpg

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First Walkoff Triple Play

It was announced a few moments ago on the Phillies-Mets post game on WPHL-TV that Eric Bruntlett's unassisted triple play did indeed, end the game. NoseNuggets (talk) 5:25 PM US EDT Aug 23 2009.

• ESPNews is now saying that it was the first walkoff unassisited triple play since 1927. I'll go out there and fix the UTP entry. NoseNuggets (talk) 4:45 PM US EDT Aug 23 2009.

Barnstar

		The Philadelphia Phillies Barnstar
		For going above and beyond the call of duty; for keeping up with the 2009 Philadelphia Phillies season even when I can't; for a high quality of edits to articles related to the Philadelphia Phillies – I present this barnstar to User:Coemgenus, as a token of appreciation from WP:PHILLIES. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 14:19, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

How to do math dates...

Hello Coemgenus... I noticed that you are the one who added the automatic date math to the
"List of Justices of the Supreme Court of the United States by time in office".

(cur) (prev) 10:34, February 23, 2007 Coemgenus (talk | contribs) (inserted parser functions to make current justices' numbers accurate each day, moved up kennedy, thomas, ginsburg, robetrs)

I've tried to look up the terms/functions that you used, but have not been able to figure out the ins and outs. Where did you look to find the terminology you used?
Examples of what I'm trying to do can be seen at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:LP-mn/Sandbox#Justices.
LP-mn (talk) 05:20, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

FL advice

Well, first off, as someone who looks at aesthetics first, that list is gorgeous. That said, I have a couple of quick suggestions that I noticed and would have mentioned at FLC:

• FLs don't start with "This is a list of..." any more. I would look at some recently promoted featured lists for examples. In fact, the second sentence, explaining what a triple is, would be a great start for this list.
• Talk a little more about why triples were more common in the dead-ball era to expand the lead.
• All colors need to be accompanied by a symbol (usually the dagger – † – is used to represent Hall of Fame in the baseball context). This means that you will have to replace the {{legend}} template with a table.
• Since there are no current active players in the table, you don't have to include that color in the key. You can keep it for "just in case", and hide it with a comment, but it shouldn't be shown unless it's used. It needs a symbol too (preferably an asterisk).
• FLC people will probably insist on sortability (I know I would), so you'll have to fill in the blank cells with actual numbers. This list will probably end up being a precedent-setter for massive changes to most of the other lists in this genre. This also means the list needs to be one column.
• Each player's row needs an inline citation. Baseball Reference is the easiest place to get those.
• I wouldn't call the "List" section "List". It's redundant to the title. "Leaders" is probably better. "Closest Active Players" needs to be removed from title case ("Closest active players").
• You should have one picture in the closest active players, since they have images.
• Each player in that section needs a reference.
• References in the lead for all statistics.
• "See also" section should be above notes. The "Notes" section should be entitled "References", and should be last.

Let me know if there's any other way I can help. I'll look it over again for you before it goes to FLC, if you'd like. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 15:07, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

That's exactly it; WP:ACCESS has more information about it. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 18:03, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

It looks really good; the only suggest I have is one that will come up at FL anyway. Only the name of the player needs to be highlighted, since his place and his number of triples aren't in the Hall of Fame. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 15:15, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

2009 Phillies

Yeah, Retrosheet and B-Ref draw their attendance from the official figures, and while it's easy to denote for a day-night doubleheader (when they clear the stadium), twi-nights are an altogether different story. Since the refs all show "0", the easiest way is to just say that. Incidentally, I plan on nominating this for GA once the season is over. Your help has been incalculable on this article; would you be interested in a co-nom? KV5 (Talk • Phils) 13:49, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Prose schmose; it's important, sure, but I've seen what happens when the game logs get neglected. One of these articles can go to hell in an awful hurry when people don't pay attention. There are a lot of old ones out there that really look junky just because people don't pay attention. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 13:56, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

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William III of England Photo Alt Text

Hi Coemgenus! Thanks for your edit summary. After I read it, I did a quick search and found this at WP:ALT:

• Alt text is meant for readers who cannot see an image.
• It summarizes the image's appearance, not its meaning, and typically has little in common with the image's caption.
• Every image should have alt text, unless the image is purely decorative and does nothing when you click on it.

I never would have thought that since on most websites the alt text so often just repeats the caption. Thank you for bringing this to my attention. Happy editing! — SpikeToronto 23:45, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Sources

I don't believe that we do. Baseball-Almanac generally hasn't been considered reliable in the past. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 11:26, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks

For the revert to my talk page  Ronhjones  ^(Talk) 23:50, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

• No worries. Coemgenus 23:56, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

New York Evening Enquirer

Did you actually read the second version I posted? The NY Evening Enquirer was charged under the Smith Act for sedition, see [1] and [2] 64.229.203.43 (talk) 16:31, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

• • They're sourced. The edit is also accurate if you care to read it or the sources. If you think it's biased then rewrite it rather than mindlessly reverting it. 64.229.203.43 (talk) 16:34, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

• • • Again, have you actually read the sources? Please rewrite instead of reverting. 64.229.203.43 (talk) 16:36, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

• • • • So then rewrite what I wrote in a manner that pleases you but includes the sources instead of mindlessly reverting it. 64.229.203.43 (talk) 16:37, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Inner German border

Following feedback about the length of Inner German border, a featured article candidate which you supported, I've revised the article to spin content out into six daughter articles with summary versions in the main article. Please take a look at the results (which are summarised at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Inner German border/archive1#Article size update) and let me know whether you are content to maintain your support for the article being featured. -- ChrisO (talk) 22:30, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Gideon v. Wainwright

Hi Coemgenus! Thanks for fighting vandalism at the oft’ vandalized Gideon v. Wainwright article. However, your revert took the article back to a version that had also been vandalized, inasmuch as that editor had removed material without explanation. I put the article back to the last clean version using Popups. I was able to determine which to revert back to by reference to the article sizes given in the edit history. The proper count for this article was 17,367. I wonder what it is that fascinates school kids about this decision and why they are always vandalizing it? (I say “school kids” because, most of the time, the anonymous IP addresses vandalizing this article belong to some U.S. school board.) Thanks again! — SpikeToronto 19:26, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

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RE: Calvin Coolidge and access-date

Why'd you comment them all out? - Denimadept (talk) 21:51, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

I was wondering the same thing. Coemgenus 22:16, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

To avoid clutter. Didn't imagine it could possibly be controversial, esp to experienced users. Anyway, here are the applicable §§

WP:CITE

"A full citation is also required in a References section at the end of the article. In addition, providing an access date for the link in a comment helps editors recover a link that has become unavailable. for example:

*Plunkett, John. [http://media.guardian.co.uk/site/story/0,14173,1601858,00.html "Sorrell accuses Murdoch of panic buying"], ''The Guardian'', London, October 27, 2005. <!--accessed June 5, 2008-->

WP:CITEHOW

"Citations for newspaper articles typically include:

• name of the newspaper in italics (required)
• date of publication (required)
• byline (author's name), if any
• title of the article within quotation marks
• city of publication, if not included in name of newspaper
• the date you retrieved it if it is online, invisible to the reader: <!--accessed: date-->
• page number(s) are optional"

"Citations for World Wide Web articles typically include:

• name of the author(s)
• title of the article within quotation marks
• name of the website (linked to a Wikipedia article about the site if it exists, or to Website's "about page")
• date of publication
• page number(s) (if applicable)
• the date you retrieved it (invisible to the reader if the article has a date of publication: <!--accessed: date-->)

Majorite (talk) 00:20, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Politics of Gatineau Park

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Authorlink Usage

I appreciate your edit of my incorrect usage of "authorlink" in citing a news article. I'm becoming more familiar with the template usage but overlooked the "example" in Template:Cite news#Examples which makes its proper use much more clear. I corrected a 2nd misapplication as well. Thanks again. JakeInJoisey (talk) 03:50, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

upper vs. lower case in usage of "President"

Hi Coemgenus, I'm sorry to have reverted some of your edits in Grover Cleveland, but in my view you have not correctly applied the MOS in these cases. The MOS stipulates that "President" is capitalized when it is part of a title. Simply using it to refer to a specific title is not good enough - that is still considered generic usage. Please reread the policy and I think you will agree. Many Wikipedians besides yourself are not consistently following the policy, in my view. Regards, WolfmanSF (talk) 07:42, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

"President of the United States" may deserve to be upper case if it is viewed as a "standard or commonly used name of an office" as per the MOS. It is not a title, which is "a prefix or suffix added to a person's name"; in this case that means the word "President" followed immediately by the name of the individual in question. Please refer again to the MOS: "De Gaulle was a French president" is lower case, even though it refers to a specific president of France, while "President De Gaulle" would be upper case. A great many errors commonly make it through featured article candidacies, so I don't think these are as rigorous as they could be. It may be that some editors believe the issue of upper vs. lower case is too trivial to merit much attention. WolfmanSF (talk) 16:57, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

RfA thankspam

Hello, Coemgenus! This is just a note thanking you for participating in my recent Request for Adminship, which passed with a total of 93 support !votes, 1 oppose and 3 editors remaining neutral. While frankly overwhelmed by the level of support, I humbly thank the community for the trust it has placed in me, and vow to use the tools judiciously and without malice. KV5 (Talk • Phils)